45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[p1stonhead]

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/92323738002...

Q: Should you be more civil?
Trump: Press makes me more uncivil than I am... I went to an Ivy League college. I'm a very intelligent person

[pinchmeimdreamin]

p1stonhead said:

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/92323738002...

Q: Should you be more civil?
Trump: Press makes me more uncivil than I am... I went to an Ivy League college. I'm a very intelligent person

Fake news............

That's what he was told.

[frankenstein12]

Countdown said:

Who benefits from Trump's tax plan?

Senator Bob casey said:

“Congressional Republicans are not pursuing tax reform, just a massive tax giveaway to the super-rich at the expense of the middle class,” Casey said in a statement issued almost as soon as Trump stopped speaking. “Eighty percent of the Republican tax plan goes to the top 1 percent by 2027 -- that’s a bad deal for middle class families and workers.”

In other news a bear was seen going to the woods. He may possibly have been going to take a dump.

I am no expert on the American Tax system but it is from what I can tell fiendishly complex and the more complex a tax systemt he easier it is for the super wealthy to hide their money from the tax man.

Trump is 100% correct in his present plan regardless of what a delusional Democratic senator says. Their strategy is not dissimilar to the failed tax ideology of the UK labour and Lib Dems where if they could they would take everyone who makes over 100k a year 75%. As was proven when they introduced a top rate of 50% revenue into the inland revenue went down not up as those who are top earners tried harder to hide their income to avoid being penalised for their success.

Edited by frankenstein12 on Wednesday 25th October 21:03

[AW111]

I'm sorry, BV, Zod and co, but all that tertiary education was not only a waste of time and money, but counter-productive.

On another thread,

Funkycoldribena said:

University indoctrination has a lot to answer for.
Amazing how many think we can't cope without a giant money wasting monolith.

[Funkycoldribena]

AW111 said:

I'm sorry, BV, Zod and co, but all that tertiary education was not only a waste of time and money, but counter-productive.

On another thread,

Funkycoldribena said:

University indoctrination has a lot to answer for.
Amazing how many think we can't cope without a giant money wasting monolith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/10565264/Left-wing-thinking-still-prevails-in-schools.html

[vonuber]

AW111 said:

I'm sorry, BV, Zod and co, but all that tertiary education was not only a waste of time and money, but counter-productive.

On another thread,

Funkycoldribena said:

University indoctrination has a lot to answer for.
Amazing how many think we can't cope without a giant money wasting monolith.

That says a lot.

[Eddie Strohacker]

vonuber said:

That says a lot.

Ribena has a case of inverse snobbery with a side of insecurity. Causes her to dish out a bit of second rate clog daily. Meh.

[Funkycoldribena]

vonuber said:

That says a lot.

So does my link.

[vonuber]

Funkycoldribena said:

So does my link.

Yes, those likely to be highly educated are left wing. You could even say there's a casual link between being intelligent and left wing.

[Funkycoldribena]

vonuber said:

Yes, those likely to be highly educated are left wing. You could even say there's a casual link between being intelligent and left wing.

As I've said before, many an intelligent person has been scammed/conned.

[Countdown]

frankenstein12 said:

I am no expert on the American Tax system but it is from what I can tell fiendishly complex and the more complex a tax systemt he easier it is for the super wealthy to hide their money from the tax man.

Trump is 100% correct in his present plan regardless of what a delusional Democratic senator says. Their strategy is not dissimilar to the failed tax ideology of the UK labour and Lib Dems where if they could they would take everyone who makes over 100k a year 75%. As was proven when they introduced a top rate of 50% revenue into the inland revenue went down not up as those who are top earners tried harder to hide their income to avoid being penalised for their success.

Edited by frankenstein12 on Wednesday 25th October 21:03

You aren't an expert on the US tax system yet you know enough to assert that Trump is 100% correct? Ok.....

You also seem to be suggesting that the current system makes it easier for the super wealthy to hide their money. Yes that'll be exactly why the GOP are in favour of reform and the Dems ate against , and why pretty much every assessment shows that the wealthy will benefit FAR MORE than middle and low income families.

FWIW I hope it gets approved. Trump voters will get exactly what they deserve.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Funkycoldribena said:

vonuber said:

That says a lot.

So does my link.

It does. It says a lot with no evidence. It's little more than a whiney rant from a guy who works for a right wing PR agency dishonestly pretending to be a recent history graduate. Presumably that's why you chose it - an unnatural attraction to people who couldn't walk in a straight line.


http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-dish...

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/history-...

http://www.prweek.com/article/1227007/telegraph-si...


You're fake news.

Funkycoldribena said:

As I've said before, many an intelligent person has been scammed/conned.

SOLID GOLD!

[anonymous-user]

I wonder if an educated person was mean to ribena when he/she was little, as he/she does seem to have a thing about people who have read the odd book.

We don't need no education ... Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 26th October 06:14

[anonymous-user]

On another topic, there was an article recently about Trump's use of "we'll see " or "you'll see" to dodge questions. His "I was told X" trope has also been commented on a lot. Another favourite of his is "a lot of people agree with me". He often seeks to back up his claims by claiming that others agree with him. See for example the challenge to his incorrect claim that the US is the most heavily taxed country (this is not the case, even if you measure just by reference to developed countries). A lot of people agree with Trump, or so he says. Therefore what he says must be true. He is to some extent an avatar for the internet approach to knowledge, in which subjective opinion trumps (ooof) evidence-based objective fact.

[kowalski655]

But of course "lots"agree...The Donald has the Discworld troll attitude to counting:"One,many,lots"

They may not *actually* exceed the fingers on his tiny hands

[minimoog]

I see the swamp draining is coming along well. Pence breaks a Congress vote tie to pass a bill denying customers the right to take class actions against banks and credit card companies. And a 2-year-old company with 2 full-time employees, which just happens to be located in the hometown of Trump Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, gets a $300M no-bid contract to restore power infrastructure in Puerto Rico. Seems legit.

USA! USA!

[greygoose]

minimoog said:

I see the swamp draining is coming along well. Pence breaks a Congress vote tie to pass a bill denying customers the right to take class actions against banks and credit card companies. And a 2-year-old company with 2 full-time employees, which just happens to be located in the hometown of Trump Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, gets a $300M no-bid contract to restore power infrastructure in Puerto Rico. Seems legit.

USA! USA!

I suspect that will be the tip of the iceberg for Trump's mates enriching themselves whilst the ordinary American gets shafted.

[Byker28i]

So back to Niger. Did the donald continuously decide to continue his rant against Johnsons widow and Senator Wilson as a distraction attempt as to what the troops were doing there or is that giving him too much credit and he's just concerned about his ratings? "No-one is more humble than me" "Nobody has more respect than I do. Nobody."

Why have the US got troops all over Africa and have now had deaths in Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Niger. Didn't the donald tell us he'd personally won the fight against ISIS?

Did Congress provide "specific authorisation" for President Trump to introduce American armed forces into hostilities in Niger? If not, the deployment of American soldiers in Niger is unlawful in violation of the War Powers Resolution and therefore an abuse of the President's executive powers under the Constitution.

The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolutio...

Top senators have said they didn't know troops were in Niger
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-troops-does-us-ha...

[andy_s]

Byker28i said:

So back to Niger. Did the donald continuously decide to continue his rant against Johnsons widow and Senator Wilson as a distraction attempt as to what the troops were doing there or is that giving him too much credit and he's just concerned about his ratings? "No-one is more humble than me" "Nobody has more respect than I do. Nobody."

Why have the US got troops all over Africa and have now had deaths in Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Niger. Didn't the donald tell us he'd personally won the fight against ISIS?

Did Congress provide "specific authorisation" for President Trump to introduce American armed forces into hostilities in Niger? If not, the deployment of American soldiers in Niger is unlawful in violation of the War Powers Resolution and therefore an abuse of the President's executive powers under the Constitution.

The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolutio...

Top senators have said they didn't know troops were in Niger
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-troops-does-us-ha...

The US have had forces in the Sahel for ages, ramped up somewhat since 2011 in response to the migration of IS and in particular the problems in Mali. These are usually SF - but in particular Green Berets whose main role is training indigenous forces in support of a wider security interest. This would involve going on live patrol with local forces with a self-defence rule of engagement.

Operation Barkane is a French led military operation covering the Sahel that's been rolling on since 2012 that has other coalition and UN troops actively involved but the US doesn't have a front line role here.
Given the levels of regional activity, the problems in Libya where IS is getting pushed into the desert, the ongoing problems in NE Nigeria with Boko Haram, AQIM in Mali, Mauritanea, Birkina Faso and previous events in Niger then it shouldn't be any surprise that someone somewhere would get bumped.

The US has training teams in virtually every African country and has done for decades, so I'm afraid the senators who didn't know weren't very aware of general US policy at the best and at the worst are using it as a stick for Trump [of whom I'm no supporter].but in so doing really just displaying their own naivety.

[Countdown]

Trump Voters: No Regrets

It looks as if, no matter what Trump does, his voters are going to stick by him.