Boris Johnson Inept
Discussion
p1stonhead said:
Give over. Boris is known for only giving a s
t about Boris. Nothing else matters.
If by some fluke that ends up also paying dividends for the country, does it really matter?t about Boris. Nothing else matters. It would be interesting to start a list, top to bottom, of which MPs in the HoC we collectively believe are any good. I suspect it will be one hell of a short list.
Gargamel said:
I think being optimistic about the future of the country is a good thing. A few people on here and elsewhere seem to be beaten before they have started. All they can do is list reasons why it won’t work or why it’s too much.
In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me. In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
Gargamel said:
Leithen said:
The only vision Boris has is of himself as PM.
Oh yes, so different to all those other politicians who are absolutely all men and women of high principle and scrupulously put their duty and service ahead of their own ambition. Dear God is this really the standard we are at now. Is ambition for its own sake a bad thing ? Surely it is what you achieve when you get in that counts, wanting the job isn’t a bad thing!
Bojo was a pretty decent Mayor and I reckon he will make a decent PM. I don’t see a waiting hordes of other talent ready to do the job (in any party) All these folks who say he is a thicko and want to abuse him. Well why not go into politics yourselves if you are such hot s
t at running a country ? Previously Gargamel said:
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
Boris has no vision to share. He of course might well have exceptional skills to polish turds and communicate their shiny attributes. Lighten up and enjoy the journey.
Derek Smith said:
Gargamel said:
I think being optimistic about the future of the country is a good thing. A few people on here and elsewhere seem to be beaten before they have started. All they can do is list reasons why it won’t work or why it’s too much.
In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me. In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
the Guardian said:
Portugal plans to open dedicated corridors in its airports so British tourists continue to get fast-track access after Brexit whether the UK leaves with or without a deal, the prime minister, António Costa, has said.
“Millions of Britons visit Portugal as tourists every year – we have to ensure the flow is not interrupted,” Costa said on Thursday. Faro airport in the Algarve and Funchal on the island of Madeira will operate special lanes for UK visitors similar to those for EU nationals, he said.
“Millions of Britons visit Portugal as tourists every year – we have to ensure the flow is not interrupted,” Costa said on Thursday. Faro airport in the Algarve and Funchal on the island of Madeira will operate special lanes for UK visitors similar to those for EU nationals, he said.
Derek Smith said:
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
I noticed before that you voted to leave in one post and remain in another and thought it must have just been a typo and yet it's happened again?It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
Derek Smith said:
The fishing rights are our best bargaining point, despite the fact that we were never going to keep the rights all to ourselves. Spain likes to posture and preen but the threat to their fishing fleet is real political pressure on them.
As an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Strange as you are not a regular in the EU threadsAs an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Vanden Saab said:
Derek Smith said:
Gargamel said:
I think being optimistic about the future of the country is a good thing. A few people on here and elsewhere seem to be beaten before they have started. All they can do is list reasons why it won’t work or why it’s too much.
In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me. In the end it is all just resistance to change.
Good leaders share a vision, communicate it and yes sell it with a bit of polish on it. I much prefer to set off on a journey with a Happy go lucky positive companion than someone who worries and moans all the time that the tea might taste funny when we get there.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
the Guardian said:
Portugal plans to open dedicated corridors in its airports so British tourists continue to get fast-track access after Brexit whether the UK leaves with or without a deal, the prime minister, António Costa, has said.
“Millions of Britons visit Portugal as tourists every year – we have to ensure the flow is not interrupted,” Costa said on Thursday. Faro airport in the Algarve and Funchal on the island of Madeira will operate special lanes for UK visitors similar to those for EU nationals, he said.
“Millions of Britons visit Portugal as tourists every year – we have to ensure the flow is not interrupted,” Costa said on Thursday. Faro airport in the Algarve and Funchal on the island of Madeira will operate special lanes for UK visitors similar to those for EU nationals, he said.
thank PM Costa for his kind deed.
Pat will naturally be overjoyed at this development .
NoNeed said:
Derek Smith said:
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
I noticed before that you voted to leave in one post and remain in another and thought it must have just been a typo and yet it's happened again?It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
Derek Smith said:
The fishing rights are our best bargaining point, despite the fact that we were never going to keep the rights all to ourselves. Spain likes to posture and preen but the threat to their fishing fleet is real political pressure on them.
As an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Strange as you are not a regular in the EU threadsAs an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Down and out said:
NoNeed said:
Derek Smith said:
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
I noticed before that you voted to leave in one post and remain in another and thought it must have just been a typo and yet it's happened again?It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
Derek Smith said:
The fishing rights are our best bargaining point, despite the fact that we were never going to keep the rights all to ourselves. Spain likes to posture and preen but the threat to their fishing fleet is real political pressure on them.
As an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Strange as you are not a regular in the EU threadsAs an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Down and out said:
NoNeed said:
Derek Smith said:
I'm positive about the UK. I voted leave because that's what my kids wanted, but I was ambivalent. I think we will do quite well if we leave with a deal, although living standards will drop in the short term. Medium/long term I think there will be little or no difference. We'll have to join the long queues at airports and such, but that's only once a year for me.
It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
I noticed before that you voted to leave in one post and remain in another and thought it must have just been a typo and yet it's happened again?It's not change I'm against, it is having someone like Johnson in charge. In every job he's done, he's made a mess of it. From inventing quotes. through not building a damned expensive bridge, to ensuring a country kept one of our passport holders in prison, he's proved to be a liability. How can one be optimistic about Johnson?
Does anyone believe his promises? 20,000 extra police officers? Do me a favour. He has no intention of fulfilling any of his promises. He was against Heathrow's extra runway, but ensured he did not vote against it. Lucky old constituents. He will do lasting damage to the UK, if only to ensure that Corbyn gets in.
I'm not suggesting he's stupid. I'm saying he's dedicated himself to being pm. He's got it now, so his ambitions have ended.
Derek Smith said:
The fishing rights are our best bargaining point, despite the fact that we were never going to keep the rights all to ourselves. Spain likes to posture and preen but the threat to their fishing fleet is real political pressure on them.
As an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
Strange as you are not a regular in the EU threadsAs an aside, there's a group of us who live locally. We have similar interests although one was a committed leaver. The rest of us voted remain. I've jsut been told that the leaver is over the moon about the 'excellent' deal May has gained from the EU.
At lease someone's happy.
We don't talk about it in the group of course.
p1stonhead said:
A £50m bridge made of air begs to differ.
His overall record and his public support in London at the time was very favourable. Compared to the current clown he did a very good job, the London Olympics in particular were a high point that could have been a disaster if he cocked it up.
jsf said:
p1stonhead said:
A £50m bridge made of air begs to differ.
His overall record and his public support in London at the time was very favourable. Compared to the current clown he did a very good job, the London Olympics in particular were a high point that could have been a disaster if he cocked it up.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070927002850/http://...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jul/04/u...
zygalski said:
You do realise we have to thank Tony Blair in part for his help in securing the successful bid for the London Olympics?
https://web.archive.org/web/20070927002850/http://...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jul/04/u...
winning the bid is one thing. Delivering on it is quite another. (not a fan of BoJo BTW).https://web.archive.org/web/20070927002850/http://...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jul/04/u...
By then Tony Blair was busy promoting peace in the Middle East. What year was that? 2012. What happened in the Arab world in 2012?...
stuckmojo said:
zygalski said:
You do realise we have to thank Tony Blair in part for his help in securing the successful bid for the London Olympics?
https://web.archive.org/web/20070927002850/http://...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jul/04/u...
winning the bid is one thing. Delivering on it is quite another. (not a fan of BoJo BTW).https://web.archive.org/web/20070927002850/http://...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/jul/04/u...
By then Tony Blair was busy promoting peace in the Middle East. What year was that? 2012. What happened in the Arab world in 2012?...
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