Less attractive women whinging about attractive advert lady
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I don't really think this is any worse than any other advert for anything. Creating an insecurity and then filling it with your product has been advertising 101 for years.
I think it does highlight how worryingly pressured women feel about their looks matching a certain aesthetic though- I'll never forget Rebecca Addlington getting really upset because she didn't look like a stick thin model, despite her amazing physical achievements.
I can't imagine many male parallels of that situation, the importance of "looking pretty" is obviously drummed into girls to an unhealthy degree growing up.
I think it does highlight how worryingly pressured women feel about their looks matching a certain aesthetic though- I'll never forget Rebecca Addlington getting really upset because she didn't look like a stick thin model, despite her amazing physical achievements.
I can't imagine many male parallels of that situation, the importance of "looking pretty" is obviously drummed into girls to an unhealthy degree growing up.
Snozzwangler said:
Oh I'm not disagreeing.
Interesting how Ginetta lets the mask slip though.
If you can't beat em, get sweary! The true sign off class.
I think it's a mask that you probably invented on how someone should act and react to things. She or anyone else might quite like the word Interesting how Ginetta lets the mask slip though.
If you can't beat em, get sweary! The true sign off class.
, and might use it to describe you, so when your version of nice, delicate women who do nice things and make pretty pretty cakes gets shattered you lash out for something that's nothing to do with themWestyCarl said:
Wow, do women really like this? I'm betting if I laid off the pies for a few weeks and didn't comb my hair I could get close. 
I'm assuming this is the Poldark bloke? I havent seen it and yes, I could have googled ;-)I've heard him referred to (by female friends) as Poldark-and-handsome.
I guess he's aesthetically pleasing, just like the girl in the protein shake advert.
andy-xr said:
I think it's a mask that you probably invented on how someone should act and react to things. She or anyone else might quite like the word , and might use it to describe you, so when your version of nice, delicate women who do nice things and make pretty pretty cakes gets shattered you lash out for something that's nothing to do with them
So many assumptions in one paragraph. At least my posts are based on what has actually been typed , and might use it to describe you, so when your version of nice, delicate women who do nice things and make pretty pretty cakes gets shattered you lash out for something that's nothing to do with them
Mr GrimNasty said:
Yawn, spurious internet credentials, who cares - what has it got to do with the point?
A women makes a snide remark at men, I respond, making a true point in a silly way, you go off the deep mental. Not really helping yourself are you.
If you can't laugh at yourself, others will laugh at you. Like I am now.
Night night.
What an incredibly unpleasant person you are. A women makes a snide remark at men, I respond, making a true point in a silly way, you go off the deep mental. Not really helping yourself are you.
If you can't laugh at yourself, others will laugh at you. Like I am now.
Night night.
andy-xr said:
I think it's a mask that you probably invented on how someone should act and react to things. She or anyone else might quite like the word , and might use it to describe you, so when your version of nice, delicate women who do nice things and make pretty pretty cakes gets shattered you lash out for something that's nothing to do with them
This is a fair point. Why does it have to be a mask when it's fairly clear she's just pretty annoyed at him? I thought he was an arse yesterday myself. If I end up going all sweary Glaswegian on him, that's not because my mask has slipped, it's just who I am. , and might use it to describe you, so when your version of nice, delicate women who do nice things and make pretty pretty cakes gets shattered you lash out for something that's nothing to do with themFrom the daily mash
Men Puzzled By Debate Over Bouncy Girls
23-03-10
MEN across Britain continue to be puzzled by the debate over the pros and cons of bouncy girls, it emerged last night.
As the first size 16 contestant prepares for the Miss England beauty pageant, women said it was an important breakthrough while men said they could not imagine the circumstances in which this lovely big girl would be deemed unattractive.
Helen Archer, an official woman, said: "This is the culmination of years of determined struggle against a male dominated culture that enslaves women and demands they conform to a perfect ideal of sexual attractiveness."
But Nathan Muir, a completely normal person in every way from Hatfield, stressed: "What the hell are you talking about?
"She's a cracker and I can say with cast-iron certainty that if I, or any of my friends, were lucky enough to be on top of her you would need a crane to get us off."
Martin Bishop, a remarkably ordinary human from Doncaster, said: "The girl with the hips, the magnificent knockers and the warm, happy face… or the arrogant, sulky angle-poise lamp who spends half her life in the bog?
"I'll be honest, I don't listen to women all that much but from what I can gather the debate is, essentially, about attractiveness and therefore it is reasonable to assume that I, as a man, am the one who is supposed to be attracted.
"We keep saying it until we are blue in the face – for the love of god, please gain some weight because we do not want to have sex with someone who looks like a 12 year-old boy."
He added: "However, if I and my colleagues are not the target audience then I am deeply confused as to who you are trying to appeal to – unless of course you all harbour some secret desire to be seduced by Gary Glitter."
Men Puzzled By Debate Over Bouncy Girls
23-03-10
MEN across Britain continue to be puzzled by the debate over the pros and cons of bouncy girls, it emerged last night.
As the first size 16 contestant prepares for the Miss England beauty pageant, women said it was an important breakthrough while men said they could not imagine the circumstances in which this lovely big girl would be deemed unattractive.
Helen Archer, an official woman, said: "This is the culmination of years of determined struggle against a male dominated culture that enslaves women and demands they conform to a perfect ideal of sexual attractiveness."
But Nathan Muir, a completely normal person in every way from Hatfield, stressed: "What the hell are you talking about?
"She's a cracker and I can say with cast-iron certainty that if I, or any of my friends, were lucky enough to be on top of her you would need a crane to get us off."
Martin Bishop, a remarkably ordinary human from Doncaster, said: "The girl with the hips, the magnificent knockers and the warm, happy face… or the arrogant, sulky angle-poise lamp who spends half her life in the bog?
"I'll be honest, I don't listen to women all that much but from what I can gather the debate is, essentially, about attractiveness and therefore it is reasonable to assume that I, as a man, am the one who is supposed to be attracted.
"We keep saying it until we are blue in the face – for the love of god, please gain some weight because we do not want to have sex with someone who looks like a 12 year-old boy."
He added: "However, if I and my colleagues are not the target audience then I am deeply confused as to who you are trying to appeal to – unless of course you all harbour some secret desire to be seduced by Gary Glitter."
Colonial said:
Considering the amount of abuse I hear get directed at women who aren't a size 8 or below that dare to go jogging in public (I'm a runner, still a slightly overweight one, but getting better) from men I'm not surprised they have body issues.
It's pretty much bullst and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic.
I know what you mean. It's annoying because when I see a fat woman jogging, I want to cheer her on or give her a thumbs up but I suspect she'll think I was taking the piss. It's pretty much bulls
t and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic. 
Hoofy said:
Colonial said:
Considering the amount of abuse I hear get directed at women who aren't a size 8 or below that dare to go jogging in public (I'm a runner, still a slightly overweight one, but getting better) from men I'm not surprised they have body issues.
It's pretty much bullst and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic.
I know what you mean. It's annoying because when I see a fat woman jogging, I want to cheer her on or give her a thumbs up but I suspect she'll think I was taking the piss. It's pretty much bulls
t and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic. Asterix said:
Hoofy said:
Colonial said:
Considering the amount of abuse I hear get directed at women who aren't a size 8 or below that dare to go jogging in public (I'm a runner, still a slightly overweight one, but getting better) from men I'm not surprised they have body issues.
It's pretty much bullst and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic.
I know what you mean. It's annoying because when I see a fat woman jogging, I want to cheer her on or give her a thumbs up but I suspect she'll think I was taking the piss. It's pretty much bulls
t and they (the people hurling abuse, yeah, mainly men) are frankly pathetic. popeyewhite said:
TurboHatchback said:
You're wrong etc..
There's a fine line between naivete and ignorance. You need to think carefully about what we're discussing, and perhaps ask some sport scientist chap at your gym or do some reading. Avoid the books with pictures of scantily clad women in them. 
Hoofy said:
I know what you mean. It's annoying because when I see a fat woman jogging, I want to cheer her on or give her a thumbs up but I suspect she'll think I was taking the piss.
We've got some larger / slower runners in our club who all welcome a cheery smile and thumbs up if it seems genuine. I'd say go for it :-)
williamp said:
From the daily mash
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LOL. But on a serious note - this does appear to echo the study between what men and women consider to be the ideal body shape....snip
If women really do have body issues and it's caused by men's attitudes towards them - then you do have to wonder why the aspire to a body shape that is so different (and much thinner) than what the average man would consider attractive.
I think it's no coincidence that a woman's idea of what constitutes the perfect body seems to be aligned with the models in fashion and lifestyle magazines aimed solely at women.
popeyewhite said:
I'll try again: Who has the right to decide what a 'beachbody' should look like. And when someone does, why should it be a male fantasy physique?
Mate! Who cares? In your own words, it's a "construct" - you don't care, and I don't care. There's no right to "decide" - It's a load of balls. It can only be a male fantasy IF you (but, mostly women) let it be.
Got to Samoa - the woman in the picture will be considered disgustingly thin and deeply unattractive - hardly a fantasy.
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