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dandarez

13,335 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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F. scaremongers and doomsayers!

The one thing that affects business and the public more than anything. The cost of Fuel.


Pre-Brexit quotes by the AA (once upon a time, proud and British).

Petrol costs could rise by 18.7p a litre 'within days' of Brexit vote.
AA claims value of pound could fall by 20% while oil prices could treble.

The FT was just as doom and gloom...

Petrol: expect higher prices at the pumps.



and just 5 weeks in from Brexit, fuel prices are where?

Answer on a postcard. Remainians only need answer. The rest of us were not so gullible.


AC43

11,603 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Ridgemont said:
Not spotted this one on the Brexcuse thread from this morning;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36961287

"HSBC chief executive Stuart Gulliver also raised the fallout of the UK's vote to leave the European Union: "There has been a period of volatility and uncertainty which is likely to continue for some time."
Have you ever been to Canary Wharf? Have you seen how international the workforce is there? Are you not aware of the paralysis caused by uncertainty about people's futures.

The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.

Digga

40,603 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

111 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

125 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Digga

40,603 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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BlackLabel said:
Must admit, I'm not entirely happy about that - I live out in bumblefk and am fortunate enough to see very large buzzards over our garden quite regularly - but it takes a special kind of logic to equate the matter to Brexit. More like big business meets politics cronyism.

don'tbesilly

14,005 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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silentbrown said:
Digga said:
Most hair appointment are, if not discretionary, then at best elastic.

I take it you are male and either single or married to one of the more frugal examples of the fairer sex?
Frugal: err, no frown But I get your point.

I recall being told that hairdressing is one of the last things to take a big hit in recession, though - and not just because hair keeps growing.

Whichever way you look at it, the current uncertainty is more likely to affect big-ticket purchases (houses, cars, and indeed some furniture) rather than day-to-day expenses.
Not cars according to Trevor Finn boss of Pendragon.

Not only has he said that it's business as normal post Brexit, but he sees leaving as a major boost for the car industry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/08/02/bre...

Who'd have thought it!

I guess with interest rates not going skywards as predicted by the remain campaign, and people struggling to pay the massive increases in mortgage payments as foretold by the remain campaign, people will be able to spend the extra money they'll have as a result of mortgage payments going down.

Price of fuel's also going down, so it's a great time to buy a car.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.







turbobloke

104,754 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
How will they influence EU regulation once the UK leaves the EU?

They may well be spectating - that's what vote leave was all about - making our own laws. Did you expect us to make our own laws AND still make the laws in the EU?

We won't be doing the latter anymore, most of the nation decided we should worry about pulling up our drawbridge instead. That's the trouble with drawbridges.





Timmy40

12,915 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
How will they influence EU regulation once the UK leaves the EU?

They may well be spectating - that's what vote leave was all about - making our own laws. Did you expect us to make our own laws AND still make the laws in the EU?

We won't be doing the latter anymore, most of the nation decided we should worry about pulling up our drawbridge instead. That's the trouble with drawbridges.
Because ajd the whole point about Brexit is that the EU is a controlling socilaist monolithic dinosaur, do you actually think France and Germany will free up their financial laws and tax systems enough to make it remotely attractive for Financial Services compared to London? Not a chance in hell, not matter what other leigslation they do or don't pass.

turbobloke

104,754 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a passive City spectating.
How will they influence EU regulation once the UK leaves the EU?
I didn't say they would, nor that they wouldn't - but for more on that a City person may be along at any time.

The lack of a passive response goes beyond the EU because the EU is not the be-all and end-all of financial activities.

It's about the nature of the business, the people, and proactivity more generally.

///ajd said:
They may well be spectating - that's what vote leave was all about - making our own laws.
Those are two largely unrelated matters given that most legislation now and on into the future has nothing to do with the City.




don'tbesilly

14,005 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
Canary Wharf will have disappeared in 5 yrs, the area will resemble the type of scene you see in an apocalypse movie.

8 Canada Square will be wrapped in ivy and the area will be blighted by marauding dogs and the ghosts of city traders.

The only business will come from film studios using the area for the movie 'Brexit - The demise of the UK', and the subsequent sequels.

I'd suggest a scriptwriter and director, but I'm guessing a lot of people will know who I have in mind.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Timmy40 said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
How will they influence EU regulation once the UK leaves the EU?

They may well be spectating - that's what vote leave was all about - making our own laws. Did you expect us to make our own laws AND still make the laws in the EU?

We won't be doing the latter anymore, most of the nation decided we should worry about pulling up our drawbridge instead. That's the trouble with drawbridges.
Because ajd the whole point about Brexit is that the EU is a controlling socilaist monolithic dinosaur, do you actually think France and Germany will free up their financial laws and tax systems enough to make it remotely attractive for Financial Services compared to London? Not a chance in hell, not matter what other leigslation they do or don't pass.
Here's one for starters - they can decide to force some types of financial business to be done in the EU.

This might mean business currently done in London that would have to move.

And the UK and the city would be totally powerless to stop them. Would would the city lobby? Brussels? Berlin? Paris?





Timmy40

12,915 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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///ajd said:
Timmy40 said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
How will they influence EU regulation once the UK leaves the EU?

They may well be spectating - that's what vote leave was all about - making our own laws. Did you expect us to make our own laws AND still make the laws in the EU?

We won't be doing the latter anymore, most of the nation decided we should worry about pulling up our drawbridge instead. That's the trouble with drawbridges.
Because ajd the whole point about Brexit is that the EU is a controlling socilaist monolithic dinosaur, do you actually think France and Germany will free up their financial laws and tax systems enough to make it remotely attractive for Financial Services compared to London? Not a chance in hell, not matter what other leigslation they do or don't pass.
Here's one for starters - they can decide to force some types of financial business to be done in the EU.

This might mean business currently done in London that would have to move.

And the UK and the city would be totally powerless to stop them. Would would the city lobby? Brussels? Berlin? Paris?
They can force all they like. It won't make any significant dent in volumes through London.

turbobloke

104,754 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
AC43 said:
The problems in the banking sector are well known. Brexit is just fanning the flames.
Sure, but how many times, partly out of envy from Paris and Frankfurt, did the EU threaten to gun for the city? How long would London have remained so dominant before the interest groups had tried to tax or legislate?
That old bs again. I was under impression that some leavers thought that we had no influence within EU? They tried many, many times. And every single time they failed. Now, without Lord Hill, and with us most likely not having any say, do you think it's gonna be easier or harder to pass legislation detrimental to the City?
Obviously it will be alot harder now, if not impossible to stop the EU eroding Londons position at their leisure.
It's difficult to imagine a pasive City spectating.
Canary Wharf will have disappeared in 5 yrs, the area will resemble the type of scene you see in an apocalypse movie.

8 Canada Square will be wrapped in ivy and the area will be blighted by marauding dogs and the ghosts of city traders.

The only business will come from film studios using the area for the movie 'Brexit - The demise of the UK', and the subsequent sequels.

I'd suggest a scriptwriter and director, but I'm guessing a lot of people will know who I have in mind.
On the acting side, Mel and Tina may be available.

J Corbyn might be persuaded to appear as a vagrant within a Clockwork Orangesque scene also starring RED wearing a Barclays blue codpiece outside white half-mast drainpipes.

Timmy40

12,915 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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It will be a simple agrarian Utopia with no modern technology, science and research having ground to an immediate complete halt. One physiscist ( a bald 34 year old virgin ) interviewed by the BBC had turned to sex work as a way to try and replace EU funding. To no avail.

I think this winter we're going to see alot of deaths from Brexit related flu as well.

don'tbesilly

14,005 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Timmy40 said:
It will be a simple agrarian Utopia with no modern technology, science and research having ground to an immediate complete halt. One physiscist ( a bald 34 year old virgin ) interviewed by the BBC had turned to sex work as a way to try and replace EU funding. To no avail.

I think this winter we're going to see alot of deaths from Brexit related flu as well.
Jockman will be busy, at least an undertaker will see some benefit from Brexit.

I wonder if Jockman would do group deals, I could start touting for some business, and we could both benefit laugh

Tampon

4,637 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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turbobloke said:
Price fixing? Naughty and unlawful surely?!
Defo but the big players know their stuff. They pressure the agents or wholesalers and they inturn have a quiet word with you to not advertise Lythe same oak suite as FV at 2/3 the cost they charge online on your website so people stop walking Iinto the Newcastle branch of FV and say will you price match.

The consequences of continuing is another person is found to sell in your area or you are allowed reduced numbers (and the higher increase in unit cost).

Just part of the game and not worth challenging. You can get round it by buying container loads of a range upfront. Then selling through a different company name online but you have to kind of pick the right range early and shell out 40k plus on one type of table. Then you have the chairs, different sizes and colours and finishes etc

Even then they can figure it out with numbers of units going to certain clients eventually.


Tampon

4,637 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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dandarez said:
F. scaremongers and doomsayers!

The one thing that affects business and the public more than anything. The cost of Fuel.


Pre-Brexit quotes by the AA (once upon a time, proud and British).

Petrol costs could rise by 18.7p a litre 'within days' of Brexit vote.
AA claims value of pound could fall by 20% while oil prices could treble.

The FT was just as doom and gloom...

Petrol: expect higher prices at the pumps.



and just 5 weeks in from Brexit, fuel prices are where?

Answer on a postcard. Remainians only need answer. The rest of us were not so gullible.
Genuinely a WTJudderingF moment.