Owen Jones

[Tryke3]

You guys really need to stop and think about the st you type and why

[V1nce Fox]

Tryke3 said:

You guys really need to stop and think about the st you type and why

NEVER!

[dudleybloke]

It's better to use logic and reason to beat him rather than fists and feet.

[Piersman2]

I'm going to go against the consensus of views thus far and and say I'm quite glad he's been given a kick in the head.

So long as his injuries aren't too serious of course.

Any reason the original article linked has been removed at this time?

[DeepEnd]

Piersman2 said:

I'm going to go against the consensus of views thus far and and say I'm quite glad he's been given a kick in the head.

So long as his injuries aren't too serious of course.

Any reason the original article linked has been removed at this time?

[jakesmith]

biggbn said:

OO Beckton said:

Owen Jones stands with, and for, everyone and everything that is divisive in the Media. He is ideological companions of race-hustlers and professional victims like: Faiza Shaheen, David Lammy, Jonathan Liew, Dawn Butler, Reni Eddo-Lodge, Munroe Bergdorf, Kehinde Andrews, Marina Hyde, Sairo Rao... Every Marxist, antiwhite, feminist and misandrist on Twitter doing politics and activism... Owen is the lynch pin of the Left's most poisonous and spiteful journalism.

...Despite this, it's wrong that he's been physically attacked.

Soon as you use violence against your opponent, you've lost the argument and higher ground.

Excellent post.

If only you’d been around in the 1930’s BigBen you could have sat Hitler down, called him brother man, given him your life story about walking away from a downward spiral of violence, and told him that his plans for a third reich of 1000 years were just plain wrong. All that kerfuffle with the planes and USA and the global conflict, really the allies lost the argument as soon as Churchill declared that we were at war. If only none of that had happened, Owen Jones, the hard left tosser that he is, would be free as a bird to walk around publishing his antisocial divisive drivel with complete freedom ....

[Evanivitch]

jsc15 said:

Evanivitch said:

I'd put a tenner on it being some angry Joe Swinson supporters.

LibDems aren't known for street violence, or being allowed out after 9pm

Oh I don't know, a few Lib Dem voters in 2010 got a bit irate.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/nov/10/...

[psi310398]

Evanivitch said:

jsc15 said:

Evanivitch said:

I'd put a tenner on it being some angry Joe Swinson supporters.

LibDems aren't known for street violence, or being allowed out after 9pm

Oh I don't know, a few Lib Dem voters in 2010 got a bit irate.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/nov/10/...

Ah Lib Dem militant action might explain the light dusting he got according that picture and the N1 postcode.

I mean, if any self-respecting extreme right gang were responsible for giving him a going over, I’d have expected to see a teeny weeny bit more damage than we’ve seen in that photo, no?

[Burwood]

If you want a laugh read his twitter feed. I’ve never seen the word Solidarity quoted so many times.lol

[768]

Piersman2 said:

Any reason the original article linked has been removed at this time?

I think there's just a wider BBC news issue.

[Mothersruin]

dudleybloke said:

It's better to use logic and reason to beat him rather than fists and feet.

It would, if he'd listen.

He only deals in feelings, his own feelings. With Owen, it's only ever about Owen.

[anonymous-user]

jakesmith said:

biggbn said:

OO Beckton said:

Owen Jones stands with, and for, everyone and everything that is divisive in the Media. He is ideological companions of race-hustlers and professional victims like: Faiza Shaheen, David Lammy, Jonathan Liew, Dawn Butler, Reni Eddo-Lodge, Munroe Bergdorf, Kehinde Andrews, Marina Hyde, Sairo Rao... Every Marxist, antiwhite, feminist and misandrist on Twitter doing politics and activism... Owen is the lynch pin of the Left's most poisonous and spiteful journalism.

...Despite this, it's wrong that he's been physically attacked.

Soon as you use violence against your opponent, you've lost the argument and higher ground.

Excellent post.

If only you’d been around in the 1930’s BigBen you could have sat Hitler down, called him brother man, given him your life story about walking away from a downward spiral of violence, and told him that his plans for a third reich of 1000 years were just plain wrong. All that kerfuffle with the planes and USA and the global conflict, really the allies lost the argument as soon as Churchill declared that we were at war. If only none of that had happened, Owen Jones, the hard left tosser that he is, would be free as a bird to walk around publishing his antisocial divisive drivel with complete freedom ....

[biggbn]

jakesmith said:

biggbn said:

OO Beckton said:

Owen Jones stands with, and for, everyone and everything that is divisive in the Media. He is ideological companions of race-hustlers and professional victims like: Faiza Shaheen, David Lammy, Jonathan Liew, Dawn Butler, Reni Eddo-Lodge, Munroe Bergdorf, Kehinde Andrews, Marina Hyde, Sairo Rao... Every Marxist, antiwhite, feminist and misandrist on Twitter doing politics and activism... Owen is the lynch pin of the Left's most poisonous and spiteful journalism.

...Despite this, it's wrong that he's been physically attacked.

Soon as you use violence against your opponent, you've lost the argument and higher ground.

Excellent post.

If only you’d been around in the 1930’s BigBen you could have sat Hitler down, called him brother man, given him your life story about walking away from a downward spiral of violence, and told him that his plans for a third reich of 1000 years were just plain wrong. All that kerfuffle with the planes and USA and the global conflict, really the allies lost the argument as soon as Churchill declared that we were at war. If only none of that had happened, Owen Jones, the hard left tosser that he is, would be free as a bird to walk around publishing his antisocial divisive drivel with complete freedom ....

You are comparing this assault to the third Reich? Wow, just wow. No, make that WOW. We have had this discussion before, I have lived a very violent life, certainly up to about 8 years ago and I realised that violence, for me, wasn't an answer any longer. I do believe in the legitimate use of force. Which is what right minded people did in the face of Hitler's fascist aggression. I have no problem with that. Owen Jones, or anyone being assaulted by a bunch of idiots outside a pub is not really comparable now, is it? Or are you saying it it s acceptable to physically assault someone if you don't like their views or personality?

I'm not sure why you seem to single out my posts for these kind of replies, but am happy to continue engaging with you. If you have any further points or observations please don't hesitate to bring them up and I will do my best to illuminate my thought process to you. Have a good night brother man, off to work now, gbn

[Burwood]

I don’t think he is making such a comparison;)

[psi310398]

Applying Occam’s Razor, isn’t the most feasible explanation the simplest one: tt most likely ttted for being a tt?

[jakesmith]

No I’m comparing Owen Jones and his ideology with the third reich and the assault with the allies

It’s not as much of a stretch as it sounds, for people with some knowledge of the impact of communist regimes on their population

Whilst I am being slightly tongue in cheek here, this sort of very minor assault is not uncommon in that area and trust this little attention seeking scroat to try and make political capital out of it

He probably sees it as on a par with the murder of Jo Cox in terms of the significance

[Burwood]

It was 3am according to Jones. Drunk. It will be interesting to see what the cctv footage shows

[ClaphamGT3]

I find Owen Jones intensely irritating. I disagree with almost everything that he says and stands for and I particularly despise his dog-bark blaming of the ‘far right’ - ie everyone less ideologically wedded to Maxism than him - for absolutely every ill in society whilst defending the left and, particularly, Momentum, however patently absurd it makes him look.

He absolutely does not deserve to be assaulted - nobody does - and I hope that the full force of the law is brought to bear on those who did so, irrespective of their motivations.

[jakesmith]

ClaphamGT3 said:

I find Owen Jones intensely irritating. I disagree with almost everything that he says and stands for and I particularly despise his dog-bark blaming of the ‘far right’ - ie everyone less ideologically wedded to Maxism than him - for absolutely every ill in society whilst defending the left and, particularly, Momentum, however patently absurd it makes him look.

He absolutely does not deserve to be assaulted - nobody does - and I hope that the full force of the law is brought to bear on those who did so, irrespective of their motivations.

What if he started it then
What’s the full force of the law that most would expect for lightly grazing someone in a scuffle at 3am outside the pub
Told to go home? That’s not the victim btw but probably rings true.

[jsc15]

Lentilist said:

jsc15 said:

Is Owen a professional st-stirrer who can't deal with any views outside his own bubble?.....Yes

jsc15 said:

Is Owen prone to twist events to suit his anti-Tory, anti-White, anti-capitalism, anti-Brexit, London-centric, idealistic worldview?......every damn time

Those two statements are somewhat contradictory.

I don't see how you can label him a st-stirrer on the basis he can't accept views outside his own bubble whilst simultaneously accusing him of twisting facts because he has a worldview that's presumably antithetical to your own?

I wasn't labelling him a st-stirrer on the basis he can't accept views outside his own bubble. The two don't need to go hand-in-hand. He is a st-stirrer AND can't deal with any views outside his own bubble.

My accusing him of twisting facts is purely down to him instantly milking this as a confirmed far-right attack, due to Brexit, Tory scum and gammons, etc etc, when the reality (which I accept is TBC through the legal process) is *probably* very different, but somewhat less convenient to his narrative and his obedient Twitter following.