CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)
Discussion
21st Century Man said:
Tbf, crazy though that proposal was, good ventilation was a mitigation with some merit/science behind it, unlike the huge amount of other nonsense.
Hmm not convinced about that 21cm. Would that be the same "science" as wearing cloth face masks?I've just had a quick look for some evidence of these cut doors but not found anything.
r3g said:
21st Century Man said:
Tbf, crazy though that proposal was, good ventilation was a mitigation with some merit/science behind it, unlike the huge amount of other nonsense.
Hmm not convinced about that 21cm. Would that be the same "science" as wearing cloth face masks?I've just had a quick look for some evidence of these cut doors but not found anything.
jameswills said:
Linking from the discussion on the other thread, it was a great experiment in propaganda. Shows how well it works.
You must have been particularly bored to even venture into that thread full of Idiocracy's film cast. There just aren't enough brightly coloured crayons in the world to 'save' them. They are all so deep down the 'it's just government incompetence bro, the government would never lie to me" rabbit hole there is no hope for them.Coldel's endless psychoanalysis babble is amusing though, especially when he launches into one of his regular rants about people not being able to do critical thinking. The irony is completely lost on him
.gareth_r said:
I saw. But can't find any evidence of them actually having done it. If it had I could see it would be the sort of thing youtube et all would remove as "disinformation" courtesy of the "fact-checkers" but the alt sites aren't producing anything either.r3g said:
gareth_r said:
I saw. But can't find any evidence of them actually having done it. If it had I could see it would be the sort of thing youtube et all would remove as "disinformation" courtesy of the "fact-checkers" but the alt sites aren't producing anything either.If this policy had been announced in summer 2020 as part of the “roadmap” which was nothing of the sort, then there’s a reasonable chance that, just like the issue of masks in classrooms, Johnson may well have followed suit.
Edited by alangla on Tuesday 23 April 14:40
r3g said:
You must have been particularly bored to even venture into that thread full of Idiocracy's film cast. There just aren't enough brightly coloured crayons in the world to 'save' them. They are all so deep down the 'it's just government incompetence bro, the government would never lie to me" rabbit hole there is no hope for them.
Coldel's endless psychoanalysis babble is amusing though, especially when he launches into one of his regular rants about people not being able to do critical thinking. The irony is completely lost on him .
I'd like to try and have good discussions, but I do admit you will just end up going round in circles and then the inevitable sea-lioning occurs Coldel's endless psychoanalysis babble is amusing though, especially when he launches into one of his regular rants about people not being able to do critical thinking. The irony is completely lost on him
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jameswills said:
I'd like to try and have good discussions, but I do admit you will just end up going round in circles and then the inevitable sea-lioning occurs
Been banned from that thread for months, but looked in there today and saw someone make valid points only to be told 'you're a CTer, Covid thread is over there--->'. Don't waste your time.
jameswills said:
vixen1700 said:
Been banned from that thread for months, but looked in there today and saw someone make valid points only to be told 'you're a CTer, Covid thread is over there--->'.
Don't waste your time.
True, I will leave it alone now.Don't waste your time.
Boringvolvodriver said:
jameswills said:
vixen1700 said:
Been banned from that thread for months, but looked in there today and saw someone make valid points only to be told 'you're a CTer, Covid thread is over there--->'.
Don't waste your time.
True, I will leave it alone now.Don't waste your time.
It's been the whole MO of the mental types over the pandemic. Anyone that is plainly not a conspiracy theorist that raises reasonable points and asks for accountability from governments, big pharma and 'the science' is smeared as a conspiracy theorist. Largely because no one wants to own up to the damage done or take responsibility for their actions.
It is, unfortunately, the world we live in and it won't change any time soon.
Slagathore said:
The true sign of an idiot. Presented with a factual and easily verifiable post and doesn't have the knowledge or intellect to discuss - brand the opposition as a conspiracy theorist.
It's been the whole MO of the mental types over the pandemic. Anyone that is plainly not a conspiracy theorist that raises reasonable points and asks for accountability from governments, big pharma and 'the science' is smeared as a conspiracy theorist. Largely because no one wants to own up to the damage done or take responsibility for their actions.
It is, unfortunately, the world we live in and it won't change any time soon.
Indeed - so common on social media sadly. When there is no argument, then just throw abuse and swearing seems to be the MO.It's been the whole MO of the mental types over the pandemic. Anyone that is plainly not a conspiracy theorist that raises reasonable points and asks for accountability from governments, big pharma and 'the science' is smeared as a conspiracy theorist. Largely because no one wants to own up to the damage done or take responsibility for their actions.
It is, unfortunately, the world we live in and it won't change any time soon.
Thing is the media also were guilty with a very liberal use of “anti vaxxer”, “covid denier” and “lock down deniers”
We are living in a world where debate and counter views are not permitted - hell, there was an implication on the CT thread that by using The phrase MSM meant you were a CT ist!
Well I did try to see if I could get a reply from chromegrill by addressing a reply directly to him particularly wrt to his quote of John Bell stating ‘if you didn’t want to get myocarditis, get vaccinated’ that very clearly chose to ignore the very highly age stratified risk of both covid and the vaccines (in the other direction) and it was far from obvious below a certain age the risk/benefit was in favour. Can’t say I was surprised he chose to reply to various other posts and not that one.
Still I guess only the right people who are appropriately qualified and approved are supposed to question the likes of chromegrill and everyone else should just have faith in verified experts like him otherwise you’re a conspiracy theorist.
Edit - although I seem to just have got a reply to that latest post so let’s see how this goes……
Still I guess only the right people who are appropriately qualified and approved are supposed to question the likes of chromegrill and everyone else should just have faith in verified experts like him otherwise you’re a conspiracy theorist.
Edit - although I seem to just have got a reply to that latest post so let’s see how this goes……
Edited by isaldiri on Tuesday 23 April 23:31
Good luck...I think several of us have tried to have a common sense debate in that thread and hit brick walls. But the same could be said of many threads on PH these days. It's gone the way of Twitter, where folks choose a side... and nothing, but nothing will make them change their view.
Slagathore said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
jameswills said:
vixen1700 said:
Been banned from that thread for months, but looked in there today and saw someone make valid points only to be told 'you're a CTer, Covid thread is over there--->'.
Don't waste your time.
True, I will leave it alone now.Don't waste your time.
It's been the whole MO of the mental types over the pandemic. Anyone that is plainly not a conspiracy theorist that raises reasonable points and asks for accountability from governments, big pharma and 'the science' is smeared as a conspiracy theorist. Largely because no one wants to own up to the damage done or take responsibility for their actions.
It is, unfortunately, the world we live in and it won't change any time soon.
) the other day - calling for PH management to silence people who don't parrot the official narrative Chromegrill said:
4. In seven out of eight months between March and December 2021 the majority of patients getting admitted to ICU were unvaccinated (the exception being October). In every age group of people admitted to ICU, age-specific rates of unvaccinated people were at least ten times higher than vaccinated.
Yeah ok dude. 
I don't know of a single unvaccinated person within my circles who's had to go to hospital or had any health issues whatsoever beyond the usual seasonal sniffles.
And what happened to the Pandemic of the Unvaccinated which we were assured would definitely happen not long after the roll-out of the magic juice? Funny how that one went quiet all of a sudden. I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with all the unvaccinated being completely unaffected, continuing on with the their life as normal, wondering what all the fuss and drama was about. No definitely not. Just another coincidence.
Edited by r3g on Wednesday 24th April 09:48
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