Why the Corbyn hatred?

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popegregory

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149 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Thanks all, this made for useful reading.

jakesmith

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186 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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MC Bodge said:
SpeckledJim said:
I think I prefer it because the most popular party gets to say what goes. In the main.

Rather than being perpetually held to ransom by, for recent example, the lunatics of the DUP.

Does it sound reasonable that the two biggest parties don't take any part in governing the country?
Belgium is an unusual country of two halves/ nations, with different lagunages, pushed together.

Plenty of other countries manage it perfectly fine. None of the Eastern European countries adopted a UK style system after communism.

I'd prefer a system that wasn't winner takes all for the biggest minority. I suppose it seems fine if you are a Conservative supporter, or maybe not.

I'd prefer a system that reflected the interests of more people from more groups more of the time. Having only a choice of two large parties doesn't reflect many people's position.
That depends on your attitude towards those who don’t vote. If they don’t care or don’t vote as the outcome looks likely one way or another, then why shouldn’t the largest minority get to form a decisive government able to make laws. There are many countries that don’t have FPTP that are a complete mess as a result with constant factions, temporary unstable coalitions etc.

GroundZero

2,085 posts

69 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Looks like the Labour party expulsion was only a stunt, a temporary status to appease a few in the media and for Starma to be "seen to have done something" regarding the party's endemic racism.
Grumpy Marxist grandpa is back in after only 3 weeks.



MC Bodge

24,802 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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jakesmith said:
That depends on your attitude towards those who don’t vote. If they don’t care or don’t vote as the outcome looks likely one way or another, then why shouldn’t the largest minority get to form a decisive government able to make laws. There are many countries that don’t have FPTP that are a complete mess as a result with constant factions, temporary unstable coalitions etc.
It is typically the largest minority of those who voted. Those who don't vote don't count.

For every unstable country with PR there are plenty of stable ones.

The UK, US and Australia are hardly poster boys for first past the post systems nowadays.

MrVert

4,454 posts

254 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Max Headroom has now withdrawn the Labour Party Parliamentary whip from Jeremy Corbyn....