Good old Vince.
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Vernacular architecture is just that, a product of its own region. Built from the local materials adopting the styles of the region. Timber frame, not the modern crap but 16/17th century (my own special interest) prevalent in the South East, Derbyshire stone, slate tiles mainly Wales and west. Tesco = ubiquitous throughout the Country as are houses built by those large building Companies.
All very tragic is you happen to hold an interest, but a long way off the OP topic (but more interesting). Any promotion for infrastructure expenditure is a good thing IMO.
All very tragic is you happen to hold an interest, but a long way off the OP topic (but more interesting). Any promotion for infrastructure expenditure is a good thing IMO.
andymadmak said:
crankedup said:
Vince Cable set the cat among pigeons yesterday announcing the need, in his opinion, for the Government to start infrastructure projects such as housing, transport projects. We should take advantage of the low interest rates for finance. Of course this is going right up against the current Government Policies in respect of finance for such projects and his announcement just prior to the Budget is bound to bring a twinge of embarrassment to Osbourn/Cameron.
Lib-Dem now starting to distance themselves regarding policy for the G.E.?
I think Nick Robinsons analysis is quite interesting too: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21697483Lib-Dem now starting to distance themselves regarding policy for the G.E.?
This would suggest that Mr Cables speech is hardly a "cat amongst the pigeons" moment as you describe Cranky. Given that over the past 12 months or so, the Government has already announced a number of major infrastructure projects I suspect Mr Cables speech indicates a debate over pace, rather than policy at the heart of Government.
Mr Cable is also at pains to point out that the economy is different now compared to 2010, so this is most definately NOT an endorsement of Ed Balls economic (disaster) plan.
Mr Cameron will be pointing out what he will no doubt call the green shoots of recovery - Falling unemployment (with most new jobs being FULL time, not part time as the leftists would have us believe) growing manufacturing sector (something we all want) and growing exports to important (for the future) new markets.
Of course, the doldrums in Eurozone will hold UK recovery back somewhat, and the situation in the USA is also unhelpful, but if by this time next year we have had a percent or twos growth, continues falling unemployment, continued deficit reduction and continued low inflation then maybe, just maybe the coalition parties will each be in a position to point to the good they have done together after the car crash that was the Labour years. For all the comments in the HYS section of the BBC website I do detect a grudging acceptance by most people that borrowing your way out of debt is not the answer to the UKs problems. And for all the banker bashing, most people I speak to do actually recognise that Labour policies contributed hugely to the mess we are in today. I could be wrong, (not an unknown phenomenon) but it's still 2 years to the GE, and I wouldn't be writing the Tories off just yet.
Vince however needs to be careful lest he be seen to be neither fish nor fowl - if he accidently allows himself to be seen to be endorsing Ed Balls policies he will be toast politically!
'Cat among pigeons' well some old fashioned phrases I use occasionally I admit. My guess is that most people who take any interest in politics would have raised an eyebrow or two at his remarks coming as well timed as they did.
Financial crisis caused by reckless bankers =33% Politics = 33% domestic borrowing = 33% Ph'ers = 1%
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The Tories are dead meat IMO, squeezed out by former Conservatives votes going the way of UKIP and former Lib-Dem votes going the way of Labour. Unless Osbourne can pull a very punchy rabbit from his budget box next week I cannot see the Tories surviving at the G.E.
CommanderJameson said:
I thought there was a significant difference between a household and a government.
The latter issues debt in its own currency and can print more money, whereas the household can't do either.
I'm not sure they're analogous.
The fundamental principles are identical. Live beyond your means for long enough and you are in trouble.The latter issues debt in its own currency and can print more money, whereas the household can't do either.
I'm not sure they're analogous.
Printing money and issuing debt does not come at zero cost.
Guam said:
crankedup said:
Vernacular architecture is just that, a product of its own region. Built from the local materials adopting the styles of the region. Timber frame, not the modern crap but 16/17th century (my own special interest) prevalent in the South East, Derbyshire stone, slate tiles mainly Wales and west. Tesco = ubiquitous throughout the Country as are houses built by those large building Companies.
All very tragic is you happen to hold an interest, but a long way off the OP topic (but more interesting). Any promotion for infrastructure expenditure is a good thing IMO.
In that case if you havent been to the Alsace, you should go, Places like Riqeuwhir, Colmar, Obernay and of course Strasbourg will light your fire <plus the Plonk is great> All very tragic is you happen to hold an interest, but a long way off the OP topic (but more interesting). Any promotion for infrastructure expenditure is a good thing IMO.
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fbrs said:
crankedup said:
The Tories are dead meat IMO...
even with boundary reform they didnt stand a chance, without it they are going to get obliterated. labour landslide. god help you. Murph7355 said:
CommanderJameson said:
I thought there was a significant difference between a household and a government.
The latter issues debt in its own currency and can print more money, whereas the household can't do either.
I'm not sure they're analogous.
The fundamental principles are identical. Live beyond your means for long enough and you are in trouble.The latter issues debt in its own currency and can print more money, whereas the household can't do either.
I'm not sure they're analogous.
Printing money and issuing debt does not come at zero cost.
There's only one way to sort it out properly - at the end of each parliment if debt has decreased the PM and Chancellor get a pension of £1m per % of GDP, if it's increased they go to jail for 1 year for each % of GDP - until the national debt actually affects the people that decide then nothing will improve.
Guam said:
crankedup said:
Duly noted, good tips. Been Strasbourg and it certainly is beautiful. Good wine to boot, bonus! Others must do list. ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
Great Driving Country as well, Make a note of Haute Koenigsbourg on the trip list, a great castle and they fly Birds of Prey over the castle <Eagles and such>.![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
Its on the Right from Strasbourg on the route du vin on the way to the other places I listed
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Spectacular views from up there
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Which makes you wonder, who are the idiots that keep lending UK gov't all this money?
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