Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 6)

[Ridgemont]

ashleyman said:

I posted the other day about a family friend being on a ventilator due to COVID.

He's now sadly passed away. So that's now 3 deaths, none of which would have happened at this point in time had it not been for COVID. We'll see if there other 4 people I know who now have it will survive this or not.

Everyone's arguing about cycling and running and 'the legislation'. Just stay the fk at home.

Sad to hear. My condolences. And you are quite right.

[sim72]

seapod said:

Seagulls - curious that you should mention. I live on the coast yet see or hear few on a day to day basis.However, in the last three weeks we have heard more and more and seen flock upon flock. My hypthesis is that they have fled the inland cityscape as McDonalds, BurgerKing, Subway, et al, have closed down. And now the gulls are somewhat stricken. Strange times.

Away from the coast, gull habitat is usually mostly waste tips, which shouldn't really be affected too much. Having said that, a significant number of gulls will be returning to the coasts around now to breed.

[wjwren]

I dont know if this has previously been answered, but why are care home deaths not included in the govt figures?

[Ridgemont]

wjwren said:

I dont know if this has previously been answered, but why are care home deaths not included in the govt figures?

The numbers the gov gives are easily collated from hospitals. The ONS does wider stats but that takes time.

[cheddar]

cheddar said:

don'tbesilly said:

Leicester Loyal said:

What's the most volumes we've ever had for one topic?

This one?:

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 14)

I do hope this topic doesn't come anywhere close!

Best smoker barges, Vol 15 and only 25 pages until Vol 16.

Not sure that any have reached Vol 6 so quickly though.

I was wrong.

'Tell us something trivial about your life' Vol 33.

[anonymous-user]

ashleyman said:

I posted the other day about a family friend being on a ventilator due to COVID.

He's now sadly passed away. So that's now 3 deaths, none of which would have happened at this point in time had it not been for COVID. We'll see if there other 4 people I know who now have it will survive this or not.

Everyone's arguing about cycling and running and 'the legislation'. Just stay the fk at home.

Very sad but the problem is people will only change their attitude if some thing happens to them or someone they know.

It is easy to live in a bubble. I've stayed home, just shopping and work and in the garden. I've helped neighbours, one is dying of cancer, get him the paper when I go. I wouldn't dream of doing all I could to stop the spread.

It is just so easy to do not a lot and hopefully make a massive difference.

[Jimbeaux]

HorneyMX5 said:

Heading into week 3 of furlough and I’m confused about the day of the week and my purpose in life.

Still finding all that is going on supremely surreal, it seems only a few days ago life was trundling along as normal and I was looking forward to a summer of camping and Trackdays.

Keep well and safe everyone!

Don’t worry MX5, it will get normal again. We will just appreciate it a little more.

[anonymous-user]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52255863

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

Suprise suprise the virus is killing the poorest in society. I really hope an investigation is called into this after it is over.

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Sunday 12th April 06:43

[Stay in Bed Instead]

Thesprucegoose said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52255863

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

Suprise suprise the virus is killing the poorest in society. I called this out a few weeks back but now stats bck it up, again very sad but no suprise really, the Tories always look after the richer in socirty. I really hope an investigation is called into this after it is over.

Your political soapbox is getting tiresome.

[Dont like rolls]

Thesprucegoose said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52255863

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

Suprise suprise the virus is killing the poorest in society. I really hope an investigation is called into this after it is over.

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Sunday 12th April 06:43

You seem to "know" something, what would that be ?

[JagLover]

Miocene said:

Sorry to hear that.

Sister in law is usually a physio but had been drafted in and is working in a recovery ward which includes Covid patients. Her advice from the front line... Stay at home. You're not being asked to go to war, you're being asked to sit on your ass.

I appreciate that all such "stay at home messages" come from those with good intentions.

We are not going to "defeat" this virus nor is it possible to wait, shut away in our homes, until there is a vaccine. The point of the "lockdown" was to relieve the short term pressure on the NHS, not defeat the virus. That is what they clearly stated when they brought in the restrictions. Though many seem to have ignored it.

Ultimately this will only be over once 60% of us have had it and the lockdown seems to be serving its purpose as the NHS still has spare capacity.

Relax and accept that you are likely to get it (or indeed have already had it) and if you do get it you must trust to luck and your own health.

[anonymous-user]

Dont like rolls said:

You seem to "know" something, what would that be ?

Well the poorest and most vunerable in society weren't protected from the virus. Does no one give a st about stuff like this on here?

[anonymous-user]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

Your political soapbox is getting tiresome.

I was sick to death of all the posts saying what a great job the government is doing whilst so many failing occured daily, and deaths increased. I was never political before this event but will defitely be after as it should never have been like this, ever.

[Dont like rolls]

Thesprucegoose said:

Dont like rolls said:

You seem to "know" something, what would that be ?

Well the poorest and most vunerable in society weren't protected from the virus. Does no one give a st about stuff like this on here?

How were the "others" protected ?

[JagLover]

Thesprucegoose said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52255863

Coronavirus: Ethnic minorities 'are a third' of patients

Suprise suprise the virus is killing the poorest in society. I really hope an investigation is called into this after it is over.

One of the cases mentioned in the article was of a rich businessman so hardly all are the "poorest in society". I am sure once this is over it will become clear the risk factors for this virus.

One already discussed in great detail on the last thread is Vitamin D deficiency and this could be a very significant issue, particularly for those with darker skin. Everyone should bear this in mind and try and get as much sunshine as they can, eat foods rich in Vitamin D and take dietary supplements if required.

[EddieSteadyGo]

JagLover said:

Relax and accept that you are likely to get it (or indeed have already had it) and if you do get it you must trust to luck and your own health.

Agree with your post. I would just add that there are some things people can do to improve their own chances;

i) Slimming down if overweight
ii) Improve general fitness
iii) Getting out in the fresh air if possible to boost vitamin D levels
iv) Minimising excessive alcohol consumption.

It is a boring list, I know, but it literally could save your life.

[anonymous-user]

Ridgemont said:

wjwren said:

I dont know if this has previously been answered, but why are care home deaths not included in the govt figures?

The numbers the gov gives are easily collated from hospitals. The ONS does wider stats but that takes time.

Also it's hospital capacity that drives policy and triggers social distancing measures, so it's a key metric in that respect.

[Dont like rolls]

The very very sad fact is that those passing away in care homes are suffering a terrible fate without the medical support and the alleviating treatments that those in hospital are getting.....because old and not "worth" the same levels of care to younger members of our caring society.

This fact alone is a direct reflection on US (our society and how we care for our elderly relatives) as much as it is on any government or local provision.

[turbobloke]

Miocene said:

Sister in law is usually a physio but had been drafted in and is working in a recovery ward which includes Covid patients. Her advice from the front line... Stay at home. You're not being asked to go to war, you're being asked to sit on your ass.

Too right. For many away from the front line, it's others doing the fighting for us. The least we can do is sit on our ass a bit more than usual.

[EddieSteadyGo]

Dont like rolls said:

The very very sad fact is that those passing away in care homes are suffering a terrible fate without the medical support and the alleviating treatments that those in hospital are getting.....because old and not "worth" the same levels of care to younger members of our caring society.

This fact alone is a direct reflection on US (our society and how we care for our elderly relatives) as much as it is on any government or local provision.

We are doing a terrible job of protecting vulnerable people in care homes.

I posted on the previous volume, if there is limited testing capacity, I think we should mostly forget about testing people who have obvious symptoms and instead start testing care workers properly. The aim should be to severely limit the risks of staff at care homes infecting their residents.

That could literally save thousands of lives.