45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 8)

[Byker28i]

trump has directly weighed in on the White House review of a forthcoming book by his former national security adviser, telling his staff that he views John Bolton as “a traitor,” that everything he uttered to the departed aide about national security is classified and that he will seek to block the book’s publication

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-want...

Bolton knows what when on, wrote about it in his book, but won't testify. Seems Bolton wants the book to be banned so he can pretend to be a good guy?

[Byker28i]

Bloomberg has too much money and no plan?

[Byker28i]

Dirty tactics in 2018 Dem primaries

The FBI have arrested Arthur Dam in connection with a hacking spree that disrupted the 2018 Democratic California primary that ultimately nominated Katie Hill, according to a new criminal complaint.

Dam, in the criminal complaint, is linked directly to the Hill campaign. Hill won the general election in California’s 25th District and then later resigned from Congress over her personal life. Dam’s wife is Kelsey O’Hara, Hill’s fundraiser during the campaign and her district director after she won office.

During the campaign, the websites of Hill’s opponents, Democrats Jess Phoenix and Bryan Caforio, who was supported by Justice Democrats, were both attacked, though Hill’s never was, raising suspicions at the time that Hill’s campaign was behind them.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/21/fbi-arrests-ha...

[NoNeed]

https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/susan-jones...

[Gameface]

NoNeed said:

https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/susan-jones...

I think I believe Mueller more than Nunes.

[_dobbo_]

Retired Admiral William Mcraven speaks out on Trump's firing of his DNI

"As Americans, we should be frightened — deeply afraid for the future of the nation. When good men and women can’t speak the truth, when facts are inconvenient, when integrity and character no longer matter, when presidential ego and self-preservation are more important than national security — then there is nothing left to stop the triumph of evil."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/william-mc...

[Eric Mc]

Carl_Manchester said:

Here are videos from the Trump rally’s showing the crowds. I can only find twitter links

If anyone is interested here is a panoramic video of the Trump rally crowd at Colorado, it was flipping moohsive!

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/123068822...

The Vegas venue is smaller, it was sold out and the crowd outside was chunky:

Inside Vegas rally:
https://twitter.com/kimkag6/status/123097184633563...

Outside Vegas rally:
https://twitter.com/chris45kyle/status/12309808874...

In America you can get big crowds for many things. I was amazed once when I say that over 100,000 had turned out for a Soap Box Derby in the 1970s.

[Eric Mc]

Byker28i said:

Bloomberg has too much money and no plan?

I'd like to think Bloomberg's campaign was a bit more substantive than that poster indicates.

[DeejRC]

I think the Admiral reveals the strength of his Institutions and his nation with that quote as opposed to weakness. Trump keeps hiring n firing *because* good men and women DO speak truth unto power. We give Yanks a lot of grief for ...well for being Yanks... but I admire a large part of their respect for the duty of public service. In many ways it is an old school British ethos.
I always enjoy reading Jim’s latest posting. I have done since Katrina. I don’t have his sense of deep belief in his tribe, but I can certainly respect his sense of public service, his sense of respect for his State and his country. In fact back in the day I could never quite understand why he would back Dubya as opposed to the infinitely more useful John Mac but there you go I like his politeness, his upbeat demeanour and the lack of grumpy grousing tttishness in his replies. Basically...it’s refreshing.

Babylon5 opening spiel always used to talk about it being mankind’s last best hope. I’ve always regarded the US as Europe’s best hope at democracy and being the best of us. I retain that naive hope and it’s probably what lies behind my lack of worry over Trump. A nation founded on such deep principles can endure 8yrs of a bloke who doesn’t actually do much.

[Countdown]

DeejRC said:

I think the Admiral reveals the strength of his Institutions and his nation with that quote as opposed to weakness. Trump keeps hiring n firing *because* good men and women DO speak truth unto power. We give Yanks a lot of grief for ...well for being Yanks... but I admire a large part of their respect for the duty of public service. In many ways it is an old school British ethos.
I always enjoy reading Jim’s latest posting. I have done since Katrina. I don’t have his sense of deep belief in his tribe, but I can certainly respect his sense of public service, his sense of respect for his State and his country. In fact back in the day I could never quite understand why he would back Dubya as opposed to the infinitely more useful John Mac but there you go I like his politeness, his upbeat demeanour and the lack of grumpy grousing tttishness in his replies. Basically...it’s refreshing.
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I’d have a lot more time for Jimbeaux if he condemned loathsome behaviour and values rather than merely sidestepping and ignoring the examples provided to him.

I think most people (especially readers of this thread) will be aware of hundreds of examples showing the type of individual that Trump is. However some people might not be aware of how Trump was a leading proponent of the Birther Movement, people who were opposed to Obama’s presidency on the grounds that he “wasn’t born in the US”. They also accused him of being a Muslim. The main reason this group of people hated Obama was because he was black but obviously most of them wouldn’t admit that in public. In order to ingratiate himself with this group (basically the very right wing of the GOP) Trump peddled lie after lie after lie about Obama, and the Tea Party brigade lapped it up. He fed their racism and stoked their hatred of Obama.

Given his other comments about black people I’m reasonably confident that Jimbeaux would have been quite happy with what Trump was doing. If that’s the case it shows his real personality far better than his politeness and upbeat demeanour.

[Escapegoat]

Yes, JB is OK with Trump's racism and how it helped get the support necessary to win the Presidency. At first JB prickled at the suggestion that Trump was a racist, demanded evidence, but was then too busy talking about squirrels to address that evidence.

Whether JB is a racist, too, is another question. His posting history shows he has a problem with BLM and other race-related activism and progressive policies. Every now and then he posts something about the Black Panthers as a squirrel, and - like Trump - he just can't forgive Obama being President. The Fox apologists and GOP are exactly the same.

But it's simple: if you support a racist, you enable his racism. Some people do it because they are themselves racists.

Others support racism for an even scummier reason: it simply increases their wealth.

[mikal83]

unrepentant said:

Seventy said:

I’m pretty disappointed with Trumps crowd sizes.
I mean, 63000000 votes and a 70% approval rating (according to him) and he can only get a few thousand to turn out?
Can’t be happy with that.

After his "rally" in New Hampshire he said that 50,000 were there. The venue only holds 10,000 and you could see the upper deck was empty. The man is just an utterly corrupt dick, let's be honest. Although the constant lying may be connected to his obvious and worsening dementia.

And this is what I just dont understand with trump. Why does he say these things when they are so easily checked. I suspect that he knows that his core just dont give a fk. Its just like throwing christians to the lions.

[Byker28i]

To be honest, whilst JB would love being the topic of conversation, the real story is US intelligence tells Bernie the russians are interfering to help him, to help trump.

trump sacks his head of intelligence and puts in a lackey, rather than tell the russians to do one (which to Bernies credit, he did).

[Byker28i]

Eric Mc said:

Carl_Manchester said:

Here are videos from the Trump rally’s showing the crowds. I can only find twitter links

If anyone is interested here is a panoramic video of the Trump rally crowd at Colorado, it was flipping moohsive!

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/123068822...

The Vegas venue is smaller, it was sold out and the crowd outside was chunky:

Inside Vegas rally:
https://twitter.com/kimkag6/status/123097184633563...

Outside Vegas rally:
https://twitter.com/chris45kyle/status/12309808874...

In America you can get big crowds for many things. I was amazed once when I say that over 100,000 had turned out for a Soap Box Derby in the 1970s.

5000 crowd venue for trump - as discussed before - so small.


Big crowd for Sanders in Vegas, who told the crowd “We cannot continue having a pathological liar as president... We cannot continue to have a president who is a racist ... who is a sexist ... who is a homophobe ... who is a religious bigot.”

[Byker28i]

trump unleashed - the witch hunt continues - 'many people' say the greatest whitch hunt ever

Johnny McEntee called in White House liaisons from cabinet agencies for an introductory meeting Thursday, in which he asked them to identify political appointees who are believed to be anti-Trump
https://www.axios.com/scoop-white-house-personnel-...

[Byker28i]

Countdown said:

I’d have a lot more time for Jimbeaux if he condemned loathsome behaviour and values rather than merely sidestepping and ignoring the examples provided to him.

I think most people (especially readers of this thread) will be aware of hundreds of examples showing the type of individual that Trump is. However some people might not be aware of how Trump was a leading proponent of the Birther Movement, people who were opposed to Obama’s presidency on the grounds that he “wasn’t born in the US”. They also accused him of being a Muslim. The main reason this group of people hated Obama was because he was black but obviously most of them wouldn’t admit that in public. In order to ingratiate himself with this group (basically the very right wing of the GOP) Trump peddled lie after lie after lie about Obama, and the Tea Party brigade lapped it up. He fed their racism and stoked their hatred of Obama.

Given his other comments about black people I’m reasonably confident that Jimbeaux would have been quite happy with what Trump was doing. If that’s the case it shows his real personality far better than his politeness and upbeat demeanour.

Don't forget Donald jnr (daddy please love me) pushing Pizzagate

[Countdown]

Byker28i said:

To be honest, whilst JB would love being the topic of conversation, the real story is US intelligence tells Bernie the russians are interfering to help him, to help trump.

trump sacks his head of intelligence and puts in a lackey, rather than tell the russians to do one (which to Bernies credit, he did).

Shouldn't being supported by the Russians tell Bernie that he's doing more harm than good by running as a candidate?

[Jimbeaux]

DeejRC said:

I think the Admiral reveals the strength of his Institutions and his nation with that quote as opposed to weakness. Trump keeps hiring n firing *because* good men and women DO speak truth unto power. We give Yanks a lot of grief for ...well for being Yanks... but I admire a large part of their respect for the duty of public service. In many ways it is an old school British ethos.
I always enjoy reading Jim’s latest posting. I have done since Katrina. I don’t have his sense of deep belief in his tribe, but I can certainly respect his sense of public service, his sense of respect for his State and his country. In fact back in the day I could never quite understand why he would back Dubya as opposed to the infinitely more useful John Mac but there you go I like his politeness, his upbeat demeanour and the lack of grumpy grousing tttishness in his replies. Basically...it’s refreshing.

Babylon5 opening spiel always used to talk about it being mankind’s last best hope. I’ve always regarded the US as Europe’s best hope at democracy and being the best of us. I retain that naive hope and it’s probably what lies behind my lack of worry over Trump. A nation founded on such deep principles can endure 8yrs of a bloke who doesn’t actually do much.

I appreciate your sentiments Dee. Obviously your PH name was different if you were around that far back.

As I spend time on other threads, I cannot help but come to the conclusion that this one is different in that it is down to about three regulars. These folks cross affirm and self congratulate without even realizing it. The consistent around the clock digging of every fact and tidbit that has “Trump” written on it is beginning to appear as obsessive paranoia.

I understand that a US leader can have more effect upon a foreign nation than the other way around, thus their interest. However, it is clearly evident that it is more a personal hate of Trump’s personality rather than his policies that draws their ire. I say that because many of those policies were enacted by other Presidents, including Obama, but we heard nothing then did we?

Let me be clear, I do not like the way he carries on for the most part. I have said that multiple times on this thread. However, as many of my countrymen/women will concur, it is what he does for the nation on a policy level that we support. If he is a dick of a person, so be it. I assure you most other leaders are as well but are just not up front about it. He also brought the Chinese to the table. Past Presidents could not. They would certainly not move for Obama. All opposing nations worried nothing about him because he posed them no threat. Perhaps that is why he was so “liked” by them. Trump was hired to work for us and our interests, if that angers others then so be it. All nations work in their own best interest, so his “America First” policy is not unique. However, many of us say “about time”.
Now, a proper thrashing of me will occur following this, complete with the requisite insults, cliches of ill educated trailer park dwellers, etc. that has come to be expected by this small myopic group. I am slowly stepping away from this thread as it is evident either of us will move the others’ opinions. Therefore, battle will simply be for battle’s sake, thus futile. They simply cannot abide by someone who supports Trump, even if I explain it is not his personality but policies I am behind.
All of that said, I still believe I could have a beer with them. I refuse to believe we have less in common than more.
This is far too much posting for a Saturday!

[Jimbeaux]

Byker28i said:

trump unleashed - the witch hunt continues - 'many people' say the greatest whitch hunt ever

Johnny McEntee called in White House liaisons from cabinet agencies for an introductory meeting Thursday, in which he asked them to identify political appointees who are believed to be anti-Trump
https://www.axios.com/scoop-white-house-personnel-...

Byker28i, you do understand that ALL President’s appoint people around them that are loyal and can be trusted do you not? That is why those positions are “appointed”. Those positions that the government framers deemed needing to be outside the Presidents reach are not appointed ones.
Vindman for example was not “sacked”, he was sent back to his job in the Pentagon. His Whitehouse appointment, as with all DOD employees that work there, was an additional duty. One works in the Whitehouse “at the pleasure of the President”. It is not a job or a right, it is a privilege.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 22 February 14:43

[Gameface]

Jimbeaux said:

As I spend time on other threads, I cannot help but come to the conclusion that this one is different in that it is down to about three regulars. These folks cross affirm and self congratulate without even realizing it. The consistent around the clock digging of every fact and tidbit that has “Trump” written on it is beginning to appear as obsessive paranoia.

3 posters

Stop making things up. Countless posters have pulled you up for things you've posted.

Even ones who initially welcomed your return, such as Eric, now see you for what you are.