Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.
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Not sure if this is somebody's attempt to revive the climate migration myths with a blast from the past. Climate migrants were meant to be more numerous than headlines about Simon Cowell already - maybe some more cooling, rather than non-existent manmadeup warming, will do the trick.
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The Durban Delusion
As the dust from Durban settles, the mountain left for world governments to climb to agree a new global climate treaty by 2015 is coming sharply into focus. The generous rhetoric of the UN climate conference last December is rapidly giving way to the defensive language of entrenched positions. China and India appear to see little role for themselves in helping to do what needs to be done to avoid dangerous climate change, the US is pussyfooting, post-Fukushima Japan is helpless and countries like Australia, Russia and Canada show no signs of wanting to step up their pledges.
Sonja van Renssen, European Energy Review, 26 March 2012
When Chris Huhne was forced to remove himself from the Department of Energy, to fight criminal charges over an alleged speeding transgression, Britain’s green lobby took a body blow. Huhne was the most important advocate in government of the need to speed up wind power. His Lib Dem successor Ed Davey, with the support of the Chancellor, George Osborne, looks to have radically changed course. Davey let it be known that he intends to deal with the potential for power shortages, brown-outs and cuts by advancing a new gas generation strategy which will be legislated for in the Queen’s speech.
Alex Brummer, Daily Mail, 27 March 2012
Lord Browne, the former BP chief executive, said Lancashire has the potential to be the capital of Europe's emerging shale gas industry, in a scenario he predicted could help to create as many as 50,000 jobs across the UK.
James Ashton and Tom Bawden, The Independent, 26 March 2012
As the dust from Durban settles, the mountain left for world governments to climb to agree a new global climate treaty by 2015 is coming sharply into focus. The generous rhetoric of the UN climate conference last December is rapidly giving way to the defensive language of entrenched positions. China and India appear to see little role for themselves in helping to do what needs to be done to avoid dangerous climate change, the US is pussyfooting, post-Fukushima Japan is helpless and countries like Australia, Russia and Canada show no signs of wanting to step up their pledges.
Sonja van Renssen, European Energy Review, 26 March 2012
When Chris Huhne was forced to remove himself from the Department of Energy, to fight criminal charges over an alleged speeding transgression, Britain’s green lobby took a body blow. Huhne was the most important advocate in government of the need to speed up wind power. His Lib Dem successor Ed Davey, with the support of the Chancellor, George Osborne, looks to have radically changed course. Davey let it be known that he intends to deal with the potential for power shortages, brown-outs and cuts by advancing a new gas generation strategy which will be legislated for in the Queen’s speech.
Alex Brummer, Daily Mail, 27 March 2012
Lord Browne, the former BP chief executive, said Lancashire has the potential to be the capital of Europe's emerging shale gas industry, in a scenario he predicted could help to create as many as 50,000 jobs across the UK.
James Ashton and Tom Bawden, The Independent, 26 March 2012
turbobloke's link said:
Lord Browne, the former BP chief executive, said Lancashire has the potential to be the capital of Europe's emerging shale gas industry, in a scenario he predicted could help to create as many as 50,000 jobs across the UK.
James Ashton and Tom Bawden, The Independent, 26 March 2012
This, this this! The potential is huge. The benefits almost unimaginable. A cheap, plentiful, secure energy supply that will last for decades. The boost to the economy would be enormous.James Ashton and Tom Bawden, The Independent, 26 March 2012
However, our poxy politicians are in the thrall of a clique of charlatans. It would take just one Bill in Parliament to set this country on course for a brighter, more prosperous future.
Despicably, those in Westminster choose to ignore this wonderful opportunity. Historians will look on this period as one governed by utter fools.
mybrainhurts said:
Blib said:
This, this this! The potential is huge. The benefits almost unimaginable. A cheap, plentiful, secure energy supply that will last for decades.
I remember blokes in pubs saying this when North Sea oil was discovered...They'll be giving petrol away in ten years...
Blib said:
mybrainhurts said:
Blib said:
This, this this! The potential is huge. The benefits almost unimaginable. A cheap, plentiful, secure energy supply that will last for decades.
I remember blokes in pubs saying this when North Sea oil was discovered...They'll be giving petrol away in ten years...
k out of it! Mark my words Shale will be "harvested" but it won't be cheap for you and I.
TimJMS said:
Global Weirding starting now on BBC2
According to the puff on the tv pages, extreme weather is increasing. Didn't I see somewhere that hurricanes had got less frequent and less strong on average over the last few years? And snowy winters? Don't they remember the 60's and 70's?rovermorris999 said:
TimJMS said:
Global Weirding starting now on BBC2
According to the puff on the tv pages, extreme weather is increasing. Didn't I see somewhere that hurricanes had got less frequent and less strong on average over the last few years? And snowy winters? Don't they remember the 60's and 70's?More taxes and carbon credits are needed, obviously.
Pensions depend on it!
(not ours).
Seemed like a textbook shoring up exercise to me. If it's hot it's climate change, if it's cold it's climate change, if it's wet it's climate change and if it's dry it's climate change so everyone just shut up and cough up for some carbon credits.
However on the plus side there was no real talk of tipping points and deadly climate change and they did seem to suggest that adapting is now the way to go but they did point out that poorer countries would stuggle with the expense of adapting so there was the nod towards redistributing our wealth.
However on the plus side there was no real talk of tipping points and deadly climate change and they did seem to suggest that adapting is now the way to go but they did point out that poorer countries would stuggle with the expense of adapting so there was the nod towards redistributing our wealth.
mybrainhurts said:
I remember blokes in pubs saying this when North Sea oil was discovered...They'll be giving petrol away in ten years...
Not quite so simple in the oil business of course but if one useds the revenue to fund social engineering then it is in effect the the sam giveaway just to different consumers.Bet no one ever thought a Chancellor would give Gold Reserves away - it takes all sorts. Mostly idiots.
jurbie said:
Seemed like a textbook shoring up exercise to me. If it's hot it's climate change, if it's cold it's climate change, if it's wet it's climate change and if it's dry it's climate change so everyone just shut up and cough up for some carbon credits.
However on the plus side there was no real talk of tipping points and deadly climate change and they did seem to suggest that adapting is now the way to go but they did point out that poorer countries would stuggle with the expense of adapting so there was the nod towards redistributing our wealth.
Ah, that's Ok then. Give it 5 years and we won't have any wealth so the Maldives (or wherever) can turn to India for help. Makes sense Geographically.However on the plus side there was no real talk of tipping points and deadly climate change and they did seem to suggest that adapting is now the way to go but they did point out that poorer countries would stuggle with the expense of adapting so there was the nod towards redistributing our wealth.
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