45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

[Byker28i]

Full steaming lies ahead..
Trump rants about clintons server claiming it was hacked.
Fake news says the FBI

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811

[Byker28i]

You couldn't even make this up.

Ron DeSantis says on Fox that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing his opponent, the first African American to win a major-party nomination for governor in Florida

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-desantis-florida-c...

[Gameface]

Byker28i said:

You couldn't even make this up.

Ron DeSantis says on Fox that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing his opponent, the first African American to win a major-party nomination for governor in Florida

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-desantis-florida-c...

Innocent mistake or not, he's just clearly shown he doesn't have the intellect, forethought or wherewithal for high office.

Saying that, in the current climate in the USA, perhaps he fits the bill perfectly.

[Byker28i]

Gameface said:

Byker28i said:

You couldn't even make this up.

Ron DeSantis says on Fox that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by electing his opponent, the first African American to win a major-party nomination for governor in Florida

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ron-desantis-florida-c...

Innocent mistake or not, he's just clearly shown he doesn't have the intellect, forethought or wherewithal for high office.

Saying that, in the current climate in the USA, perhaps he fits the bill perfectly.

He knew exactly what he was saying, picking his trump base. It's his campaign office that denied it was racist

[anonymous-user]

Byker28i said:

Full steaming lies ahead..
Trump rants about clintons server claiming it was hacked.
Fake news says the FBI

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811

He’s utterly clueless

[hidetheelephants]

Lazermilk said:

Escapegoat said:

Pence is really keeping his head down. Can't remember the last time I saw him and Trump pictured together. Is he biding his time until the legal problems get too big for Trump?

I wonder if/when his team will quietly see if there's enough political support to allow them to throw Trump under an impeachment bus. Maybe if the mid-terms are bad enough?

The smart people among the Republicans must know that Trump's base has nowhere else to go.

If trump gets impeached, will Pence just pardon him and he doesn't go to jail?

Could they hold off until the 2020 elections hoping that a democrat gets elected, then charge him and stick him in jail and hope the new Democrat president may not pardon him?

If RICO offences are uncovered I'd be surprised if there aren't state level offences that could be used to put Trump away; it would appear presidential pardons don't apply to state convictions, so all it would need is a keen state attorney general and Trump could get a long stretch.

[RobDickinson]

Yeah RICO charges are the biggest immediate danger to the trump organisation.

[vonuber]

RICO being...?

[RobDickinson]

vonuber said:

RICO being...?

Racketeering influenced and corrupt organisation laws

Targets mob business basically, very strong and state level

[vonuber]

Ah ok, cheers.

[F1GTRUeno]

Tartan Pixie said:

The more time goes on the more convinced I become that Trump needs to make it to 2020 rather than be removed by legal means. Removing him from the presidency or even putting him in jail won't make him go away, it will turn him in to a living martyr. At best a man whose delusions perpetuate division and at worst, if blood gets spilled then trouble may escalate.

Removing him during the stimulus phase of his tax cuts will do nothing but pour gas on the pyre of lies about him being good for the economy and allow him to build myth among the faithful of cult Trump. Better to leave him to own the economic downturn when it happens and have him removed by popular vote in 2020, because that is how you silence a narcissist.

One of the swamps America and Britain are facing is the Murdoch inspired cut taxes and blame outsiders meme that pollutes our information stream, in the long term it will make us stronger to watch that swamp fail in real time.

If he stays to 2020 and runs and wins though...

Imagine a newly emboldened Trump, newly emboldened GOP and newly emboldened supporters?

Mueller would be gone, the poor would be decimated, the rich would own even more and ICE could go full SS rounding up anyone and everyone into concentrationdetainment camps all whilst billions are funnelled into Trump's coffers via continuing emoluments clauses violations and he'll probably find a way of siphoning the cash from building his ridiculous wall/memorial to his own perceived greatness into making more billions.

I'm not one for relying on the people to vote him out, they've shown consistently (even with current things pointing to a blue wave) that apathy, laziness and a general disdain for voting/their own party has stunted them whilst GOP supporters vote in droves.

Edited by F1GTRUeno on Thursday 30th August 03:48

[anonymous-user]

Trumps whole thing about news being biased against him and everything he doesn’t like being Fake News is quite astonishing.
HE is the origin of the Fake News - he spouts lies, incorrect data, and much of what he says is complete rubbish on a daily basis and not just as a one-off it’s ongoing and relentless
So either

a) We are all nuts and have been taken in by news reports and some unified worldwide conspiracy against him. This seems impossible so it’s:

b) He’s completely and utterly delusional and an overt madman

He needs removing and it can’t happen soon enough.

[greygoose]

V6 Pushfit said:

Trumps whole thing about news being biased against him and everything he doesn’t like being Fake News is quite astonishing.
HE is the origin of the Fake News - he spouts lies, incorrect data, and much of what he says is complete rubbish on a daily basis and not just as a one-off it’s ongoing and relentless
So either

a) We are all nuts and have been taken in by news reports and some unified worldwide conspiracy against him. This seems impossible so it’s:

b) He’s completely and utterly delusional and an overt madman

He needs removing and it can’t happen soon enough.

It does seem that way from here but a lot of people seem to actually believe him, or not care about his antics and lies, odd for supposedly bible-bashing folk.

[Byker28i]

V6 Pushfit said:

Trumps whole thing about news being biased against him and everything he doesn’t like being Fake News is quite astonishing.
HE is the origin of the Fake News - he spouts lies, incorrect data, and much of what he says is complete rubbish on a daily basis and not just as a one-off it’s ongoing and relentless
So either

a) We are all nuts and have been taken in by news reports and some unified worldwide conspiracy against him. This seems impossible so it’s:

b) He’s completely and utterly delusional and an overt madman

He needs removing and it can’t happen soon enough.

His latest rant is insisting Bruce Ohr told the FBI the Steele Dossier was wrong and they insisted on using it. All lies, none of that happened.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
“Ohr told the FBI it (the Fake Dossier) wasn’t true, it was a lie and the FBI was determined to use it anyway to damage Trump and to perpetrate a fraud on the court to spy on the Trump campaign. This is a fraud on the court. The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court is in......


It's quite a thing when the FBI have to announce that the president was spreading fake news, denying that his tweets were wrong (clintons server hacked by Chinese). The lies are getting more desperate and frantic.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 30th August 06:33

[Byker28i]

Stefan Passantino, the White House ethics lawyer, is leaving by the end of the week.
Must be a cushy job surely as trump ignores all ethics

Don McGahns number two - bit of a clearout?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 30th August 07:44

[Byker28i]

Trumps obstruction continuing? McGahn was pushed for talking to Mueller, even though he was told to do so by team trump. Trump didn't like this when reported in the news, nor that they didn't know what he told mueller, so he's out.

Sessions must be next to go. Trumps been ranting on Twitter about him several times, it's been reporting he's been complaining about him to any GOP senator he can find for the last two weeks. He'll sack Sessions to try to sack mueller to stop the trump investigation as the trump organisation and family are now threatened.

As a new poll says 44% of Americans want impeachment proceedings to start
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403916-poll-44-pe...

[Byker28i]

Papadopolous has decided to stick with his plea deal with Mueller

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/weeks-uncertai...

Hannity has still been pushing the story that Papadopolous was setup in a deliberate ploy by the FBI to get trump, the source of trumps ranting against the FBI recently? All of course ignoring that he was sent by team trump to make contact with the Russians, got drunk and boasted about it, starting the trump investigation.

[Countdown]

greygoose said:

V6 Pushfit said:

Trumps whole thing about news being biased against him and everything he doesn’t like being Fake News is quite astonishing.
HE is the origin of the Fake News - he spouts lies, incorrect data, and much of what he says is complete rubbish on a daily basis and not just as a one-off it’s ongoing and relentless
So either

a) We are all nuts and have been taken in by news reports and some unified worldwide conspiracy against him. This seems impossible so it’s:

b) He’s completely and utterly delusional and an overt madman

He needs removing and it can’t happen soon enough.

It does seem that way from here but a lot of people seem to actually believe him, or not care about his antics and lies, odd for supposedly bible-bashing folk.

If you’re willing to believe that an invisible supreme being exists who created the earth in 6 days, then Trump’s stories are small change in comparison.

Also bear in mind that just because some of his supporters are devoutly religious doesn’t mean they’re not a bit gullible.....

[Challo]

V6 Pushfit said:

Trumps whole thing about news being biased against him and everything he doesn’t like being Fake News is quite astonishing.
HE is the origin of the Fake News - he spouts lies, incorrect data, and much of what he says is complete rubbish on a daily basis and not just as a one-off it’s ongoing and relentless
So either

a) We are all nuts and have been taken in by news reports and some unified worldwide conspiracy against him. This seems impossible so it’s:

b) He’s completely and utterly delusional and an overt madman

He needs removing and it can’t happen soon enough.

Agreed. His constantly lies of fake news media, deep state, corrupt FBI and DOJ will have huge ramifications for the future of the USA. It’s become a cult where his supporters only believe him or Fox News.

He is tweeting about stories run by Fox News who get there stories from conservative blogs/websites.

Laura Ingram ran a story about about China hacking Hillary Clinton, which Trump straight away tweeted about. Tucker Carlson last night mentioned that the FBI have denied this, but then went on to say why is it not being investigated. FFS the FBI have said it’s bks and Fox just continue pushing the fake news.

If nothing changes there is going to be a huge amount of damage done to America from a social standpoint.

[Byker28i]

This seems a little scarey, people born in America denied US passports because it's not believed they are americans, punishing everyone delivered by a list of midwives suspected of forging some documents, but not saying who those midwives are.

The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Hispanics along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown.

In some cases, passport applicants with official U.S. birth certificates are being jailed in immigration detention centers and entered into deportation proceedings. In others, they are stuck in Mexico, their passports suddenly revoked when they tried to reenter the United States.

The denials are happening at a time when Trump has been lobbying for stricter federal voter identification rules, which would presumably affect the same people who are now being denied passports — almost all of them Hispanic, living in a heavily Democratic sliver of Texas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/...