Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
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colonel c said:
Atomic12C said:
Something I noticed recently on the blurb.....regarding the Paris protests.
Usually the left leaning BBC report favourably when protests take place in London, especially on liberal lefty issues such as rainbow rights, anti-trump and anti-brexit marches etc.
The typical left wing ideology is "power to the people/unions" etc......so it was a surprise to see what many viewed as negative BBC reporting on the protests in Paris.
Could it be that as Macron is a typical French leftist and as the protests were about fuel tax, that both of these issues went against a favourable slant for the left leaning BBC ?
BBC is very much anti-oil, very much pro-global warming and very much supportive of liberal left issues. So no surprise to see them mentioning time again that the fuel protests in Paris were supported by extreme/fringe political motives such as the far-right and far-left, in attempts to de-merit the protests as being nothing more than extremists riots.
If those who can remember back to the fuel protests in the UK a number of years ago, similar tactics were used, branding the protests as extremist and I also remember terrorist terminology being used, with fake reports of truckers beating up ambulance staff etc.
I don't support rioting in any form, but its clear to see the BBC slanting on the issues.
I rather got the distinct impression that the BBC was ignoring this story until t got too big elsewhere not to. Usually the left leaning BBC report favourably when protests take place in London, especially on liberal lefty issues such as rainbow rights, anti-trump and anti-brexit marches etc.
The typical left wing ideology is "power to the people/unions" etc......so it was a surprise to see what many viewed as negative BBC reporting on the protests in Paris.
Could it be that as Macron is a typical French leftist and as the protests were about fuel tax, that both of these issues went against a favourable slant for the left leaning BBC ?
BBC is very much anti-oil, very much pro-global warming and very much supportive of liberal left issues. So no surprise to see them mentioning time again that the fuel protests in Paris were supported by extreme/fringe political motives such as the far-right and far-left, in attempts to de-merit the protests as being nothing more than extremists riots.
If those who can remember back to the fuel protests in the UK a number of years ago, similar tactics were used, branding the protests as extremist and I also remember terrorist terminology being used, with fake reports of truckers beating up ambulance staff etc.
I don't support rioting in any form, but its clear to see the BBC slanting on the issues.
On another note, the Beeb's ability to add their slant to anything continues...
Does anyone else listen to the Film Programme on Radio 4?
Can anyone remember an episode that wasn't almost entirely given over to some form of identity politics?
The film under discussion is either about (or made by someone that goes on about) race, gender or politics. Every. Single. Episode.
Just for example, first film today was a satire on capitalism made by a black communist rapper. No, I didn't make that up. As far as I am aware he isn't gay.
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Does anyone else listen to the Film Programme on Radio 4?
Can anyone remember an episode that wasn't almost entirely given over to some form of identity politics?
The film under discussion is either about (or made by someone that goes on about) race, gender or politics. Every. Single. Episode.
Just for example, first film today was a satire on capitalism made by a black communist rapper. No, I didn't make that up. As far as I am aware he isn't gay.
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Perhaps you should take a look at yourself then, rather than the BBC? I reckon some people on this thread are looking too hard.Never mind.
One think I've found I dislike about myself because of how the likes of the BBC have behaved and still do behave with their identity politics, social justice attitude. And with the way they strive for things like equal representation.
I been watching master chief the professionals and throughout the competition if it comes down to two people for the choice who continues. If ones a White bloke the other is a woman, person of colour other minority and so on you can guess who goes through and without doubt they have done throughout the series.
I hate watching thinking are these people actually the best or are they just blowing smoke up their arse because the BBC want to come across as all inclusive.
It's the same with police and other services where there is and as been a push for equal representation. I just can't help but think are they there on merit or just to tick a box. I feel am giving a horrible disservice to people who are there by merit.
I been watching master chief the professionals and throughout the competition if it comes down to two people for the choice who continues. If ones a White bloke the other is a woman, person of colour other minority and so on you can guess who goes through and without doubt they have done throughout the series.
I hate watching thinking are these people actually the best or are they just blowing smoke up their arse because the BBC want to come across as all inclusive.
It's the same with police and other services where there is and as been a push for equal representation. I just can't help but think are they there on merit or just to tick a box. I feel am giving a horrible disservice to people who are there by merit.
Labradorofperception said:
Most of my Momentum and far left mates think the BBC is a nannying haven for One Nation Tories and the voice of the establishment.
Go to a more left wing forum than PH and they're equally ripping into it.
Indeed. I was told (passionately) that the BBC is wildly pro-Brexit the other day.Go to a more left wing forum than PH and they're equally ripping into it.
Came as news to me.
I was reminded earlier today why I have given up paying much attention to the BBC news agenda. I got a lift to work first thing and the `today` program was playing on radio 4 in my friends car.
A character called John Podesta was being `interviewed` (mined for appropriate opinions) essentially the message was - `Trump a Russian patsy` `Hilary Clinton a saint robbed of the presidency` There was no news involved whatsoever, just some extremely partisan opinion and unquestioned statement making. The interviewer did not challenge a single alleged fact.
Apparently this is now routine. My driver said it was almost a carbon copy of a needlessly long slot given to Chelsea Clinton a few weeks ago under the pretense of getting her on air to talk about a woman astronomer who deserved recognition because her work had been claimed by men -- allegedly -- a long time ago. However I understand 80% of her airtime was Trump smearing - but I did not hear this broadcast.
The whole media is skewed to herding their consumer in a certain direction. Sometimes with a bit of good old `divide and rule` often with some nice emotive language. My current favorite is `crashing out` - something I used to do after an ale too many in my student days. We all know the current context and the bad connotations the phrase gives to the possibility of a no deal EU departure. If our media were as fervently anti EU as they are pro - we could substitute `crashing out` for `clean slate` This of course would be misleadingly emotive in the opposite direction and just as bad and I use it merely as an example - the point is the BBC does have an agenda. It is fervently pro the status quo - it is after all about as `part of the establishment` as it is possible to be. However the more challenges there are to the institutions and individuals it supports - the less critically and concisely it reports on associated events and stories. Perhaps it has been a propaganda weapon for ever, but my impression is that it has now given up even pretending to do real journalism / balanced interviews or critical thinking.
A character called John Podesta was being `interviewed` (mined for appropriate opinions) essentially the message was - `Trump a Russian patsy` `Hilary Clinton a saint robbed of the presidency` There was no news involved whatsoever, just some extremely partisan opinion and unquestioned statement making. The interviewer did not challenge a single alleged fact.
Apparently this is now routine. My driver said it was almost a carbon copy of a needlessly long slot given to Chelsea Clinton a few weeks ago under the pretense of getting her on air to talk about a woman astronomer who deserved recognition because her work had been claimed by men -- allegedly -- a long time ago. However I understand 80% of her airtime was Trump smearing - but I did not hear this broadcast.
The whole media is skewed to herding their consumer in a certain direction. Sometimes with a bit of good old `divide and rule` often with some nice emotive language. My current favorite is `crashing out` - something I used to do after an ale too many in my student days. We all know the current context and the bad connotations the phrase gives to the possibility of a no deal EU departure. If our media were as fervently anti EU as they are pro - we could substitute `crashing out` for `clean slate` This of course would be misleadingly emotive in the opposite direction and just as bad and I use it merely as an example - the point is the BBC does have an agenda. It is fervently pro the status quo - it is after all about as `part of the establishment` as it is possible to be. However the more challenges there are to the institutions and individuals it supports - the less critically and concisely it reports on associated events and stories. Perhaps it has been a propaganda weapon for ever, but my impression is that it has now given up even pretending to do real journalism / balanced interviews or critical thinking.
'Crashing out' is just one of the Newspeak-style terms used. 'Clean break' would be less emotive but also may sound biassed to some. 'Cliff edge' is another one they use. If any price or otherwise 'bad' figure rises, even slightly, it 'soars' or 'sky-rockets', and when a good thing reduces it 'plunges', 'spirals', or 'collapses'. Orwell would be proud.
Johnnytheboy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Perhaps you should take a look at yourself then, rather than the BBC? I reckon some people on this thread are looking too hard.Never mind.
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Perhaps you should take a look at yourself then, rather than the BBC? I reckon some people on this thread are looking too hard.Never mind.
I've said it before: the fact that this thread consists of right-leaning posters saying the BBC is biased to the left and left-leaning posters saying it isn't rather neatly proves that it is.
Because if it wasn't, you, halb, countdown et al would be complaining it was biased to the right.
Johnnytheboy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Oh, and the presenter does that BBC thing of mispronouncing words that end in a 'g', which annoys the arse off me.
Perhaps you should take a look at yourself then, rather than the BBC? I reckon some people on this thread are looking too hard.Never mind.
I've said it before: the fact that this thread consists of right-leaning posters saying the BBC is biased to the left and left-leaning posters saying it isn't rather neatly proves that it is.
Because if it wasn't, you, halb, countdown et al would be complaining it was biased to the right.
Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 7th December 16:07
motco said:
'Crashing out' is just one of the Newspeak-style terms used. 'Clean break' would be less emotive but also may sound biassed to some. 'Cliff edge' is another one they use. If any price or otherwise 'bad' figure rises, even slightly, it 'soars' or 'sky-rockets', and when a good thing reduces it 'plunges', 'spirals', or 'collapses'. Orwell would be proud.
'Project fear' is certainly alive and well!gareth_r said:
Randy Winkman said:
...I come from the south east. Is it annoying I pronounce the word "bath" as if it has an "r" in it?
Slightly, but I understand that there is more than one way to skin a cart.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff