Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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motco said:
When we southerners are a mite overweight we don't say we're 'fart' though.
It is Barrth down in the southern part I lived in.

(Buckinghamshire = Southerner = LOL, you mate are basically London)

motco

16,027 posts

248 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
motco said:
When we southerners are a mite overweight we don't say we're 'fart' though.
It is Barrth down in the southern part I lived in.

(Buckinghamshire = Southerner = LOL, you mate are basically London)
I live in the Chilterns where they say 'Oi sinn it on telly' but was born in west London of London born parents (one within the sound of Bow Bells to boot), so I suppose you're right. I baled out from the M25 interior many years ago - before there was an M25 in fact.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Far Play me old cocker smile

motco

16,027 posts

248 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Far Play me old cocker smile
beer

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Ha ha what have I started?

My reference to the BBC "hard G's on the ends of words" thing wasn't a dig at regional accents.

No, what seems weird is that all of a sudden, Radio 4 talking heads with otherwise neutral/home counties/oxbridge accents seem to have adopted this wholesale. I ascribe this to their forced deportation from London to Manchester. hehe

Once you pick up on how many of them are doing (sorry, doinG) it, you can't unhear it.

motco

16,027 posts

248 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
Ha ha what have I started?

My reference to the BBC "hard G's on the ends of words" thing wasn't a dig at regional accents.

No, what seems weird is that all of a sudden, Radio 4 talking heads with otherwise neutral/home counties/oxbridge accents seem to have adopted this wholesale. I ascribe this to their forced deportation from London to Manchester. hehe

Once you pick up on how many of them are doing (sorry, doinG) it, you can't unhear it.
The female interviewer on 'Today' on Radio 4 this morning was talking to Stephen Kinnock and Joe Johnson. Because she had the manner of speech of modern females who talk as if they have a permanent cheesy grin on their faces, she repeatedly said what sounded like 'Jay Johnson'. It, along with 'vocal fry' is a very irritating and common practice.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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motco said:
The female interviewer on 'Today' on Radio 4 this morning was talking to Stephen Kinnock and Joe Johnson. Because she had the manner of speech of modern females who talk as if they have a permanent cheesy grin on their faces, she repeatedly said what sounded like 'Jay Johnson'. It, along with 'vocal fry' is a very irritating and common practice.
I'm with you there, that's the thing where young women sound permanently on the verge of tears, right?


Balmoral

41,142 posts

250 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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motco said:
'Crashing out' is just one of the Newspeak-style terms used. 'Clean break' would be less emotive but also may sound biassed to some. 'Cliff edge' is another one they use. If any price or otherwise 'bad' figure rises, even slightly, it 'soars' or 'sky-rockets', and when a good thing reduces it 'plunges', 'spirals', or 'collapses'. Orwell would be proud.
You forgot the graphs that look like mountains, but if you zoom out a touch are horizontal lines.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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or

The "What will happen after Brexit" , constantly !

You do not know "what will happen", BBC it is what "you" think and not what "will".
(Naturally, it is mostly bad things they can speculate on as that is where their known Guardian based group think bubble takes them.)

toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
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The "What will happen after Brexit" , constantly !

You do not know "what will happen", )
I think they have identified the problem. Not even Brexiteers know "what will happen" after Brexit, so as a public broadcaster it seems fair to ask the question.

BBC Reporter : Do we know how everything works under the present system ?

Random MP: Yes

BBC: So what happens after Brexit?

Ramdom MP: Dunno

You can see the problem here, yes? smile

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Yes I can, it is spelt "bias"

toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Yes I can, it is spelt "bias"
How can seeking information to fill an information vacuum be bias?

The vessel is empty. It has no information in it. How can asking for information be biased?

Are you suggesting that "What happens next ?" is a biased question. Really?!

That is Trumpian logic.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Oh dear oh dear, your need to avoid the Brexit thread has got you confused.

bless

toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Oh dear oh dear, your need to avoid the Brexit thread has got you confused.

bless
A thread about political bias at the BBC is invariably about two things - Brexit or the Labour Party.

So it is a certainty that the discussion here will be about Brexit, Laura Kuenssberg and how Brexit is being undermined by traitors or something. I knew I'd find you here. And here you are !

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
I've said it before: the fact that this thread consists of right-leaning posters saying the BBC is biased to the left and left-leaning posters saying it isn't rather neatly proves that it is.

Because if it wasn't, you, halb, countdown et al would be complaining it was biased to the right.
you think the beeb is lefty leaning according to your logic?


I'm a 'left-leaning poster' on your scoreboard?

I have friends who think it's a right-leaning place, I guess it must be if they think so.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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LOL, are you that desperate for a little aggro, not from me chump.


To help you. Spot the difference between

What will happen.
What might happen.
What WE think (read I if you wish) might happen.

Now I ask you, what is the honest way for the BBC to present their staffs speculation ?
(who we know as fact are in the "Guardian bubble")


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Halb said:
you think the beeb is lefty leaning according to your logic?


I'm a 'left-leaning poster' on your scoreboard?

I have friends who think it's a right-leaning place, I guess it must be if they think so.
Get them to give us examples, I'm genuinely curious.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
Get them to give us examples, I'm genuinely curious.
I shall, Have one mate, who I do rib a lot, she's a union rep (but actually a thoroughly decent person so don't hold that against her tongue out ) and we kid about politics and stuff, since we chafe in a friendly way.
I'll ask her tomoz.

motco

16,027 posts

248 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
motco said:
The female interviewer on 'Today' on Radio 4 this morning was talking to Stephen Kinnock and Joe Johnson. Because she had the manner of speech of modern females who talk as if they have a permanent cheesy grin on their faces, she repeatedly said what sounded like 'Jay Johnson'. It, along with 'vocal fry' is a very irritating and common practice.
I'm with you there, that's the thing where young women sound permanently on the verge of tears, right?
It's a Donald Duck sort of croak in the voice which when combined with an American accented female voice makes the speaker unintelligible to me.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Friday 7th December 2018
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Halb said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Get them to give us examples, I'm genuinely curious.
I shall, Have one mate, who I do rib a lot, she's a union rep (but actually a thoroughly decent person so don't hold that against her tongue out ) and we kid about politics and stuff, since we chafe in a friendly way.
I'll ask her tomoz.
Bet you 50p it'll be a "not buying in to the whole Corbyn thing" thing.
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