Election 2019

[FiF]

CypSIdders said:

All Blow Job .....

Stopped reading at that point.

[jakesmith]

CypSIdders said:

All Blow Job had to say was, "That's shocking and totally unacceptable", but he couldn't even manage that.

The tory boys must be praying, with every breath, hoping beyond hope, clinging on to the merest thought that somehow, all the, gaff prone, buffoonery is an act and that he's not really the national embarrassment that he's been for the last few years.
They would have us believe, that one day, he's going to come good, become a statesman, a leader.
Not a chance, unfortunately for him and the country he's blown every chance he's ever had.
A leopard doesn't change its spots, Blow Job has zero integrity, with him in charge the UK will be the laughing stock of world, a mere one step up from the charlatan currently defrauding the US!

Agreed. But still, a million times better than Corbyn. You think he’s a serious player on the world stage to stand up to China? Or would his anti NATO and anti American rhetoric bring a weakened Europe closer to the brink with Russia?

His left wing idiots have already spent their time since communism was shown to be an abject failure (following the fall of the Berlin Wall), seemingly disarming the population intellectually with tricks such as making men believe they can be women etc.

[jakesmith]

FiF said:

CypSIdders said:

All Blow Job .....

Stopped reading at that point.

Yep me too, lame poster, lame post.

[Gerradi]

jakesmith said:

He’s not an antisemitic Marxist is my motivation. Anorher few reasons ar McDonnel, Butler, Rayner, Abbott, Burgess, Wrong Daily. If I even thought there was any talent around the racist old to reign him in or moderate him I’d give him an easier ride and BoJo the hard ride he deserves. However if BoJo is not our PM on Friday I believe this country will probably be ruined forever.

BoJo is a turd for the record.

Where you going to go then "Jake"

[Helicopter123]

Gerradi said:

jakesmith said:

He’s not an antisemitic Marxist is my motivation. Anorher few reasons ar McDonnel, Butler, Rayner, Abbott, Burgess, Wrong Daily. If I even thought there was any talent around the racist old to reign him in or moderate him I’d give him an easier ride and BoJo the hard ride he deserves. However if BoJo is not our PM on Friday I believe this country will probably be ruined forever.

BoJo is a turd for the record.

Where you going to go then "Jake"

Ah least if Corbyn retains freedom of movement, he can go and live and work in the EU. Every cloud...

[anonymous-user]

Cracking stuff
The comedy element has shown up. This will inject some humour into the thread and defuse the situation

[jakesmith]

Gerradi said:

Where you going to go then "Jake"

Well, ‘Gerard’, to answer your odiously unpleasant question, I don’t know but it’s possible that I will stay here but have to camp in the woods in Surrey Hills, after my little house is taken away and turned into a left wing lesbian theatre group and immigration centre, and right up to freezing to death miles from my former family home that I worked 20 years for,I may use a wind up charger to power what will be an ancient iPhone and comfort myself by spending the time I would have been working before the economy was ruined forever, pointing out to nasty left wing morons on line how much tax I would have paid that year had my livelihood not been destroyed. And by pointing out how much worse off the poor and vulnerable are without capitalism thanks to principled Mr Corbyn. That sort of thing.

[stongle]

Nickgnome said:

I lived and worked in the USA for a few years and seriously considered residency. It has changed less than I thought when I visited a few weeks ago. which confirmed to me, that my decision was correct for me.


Try here. There are plenty of other sites that show the same comparisons and figures.

We in the UK pay relatively little per head in comparison.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/020915/wh...

But the US system is largely privatised, and the spend per person is not the same as positive outcomes. The cost, per person may be higher but that doesn't translate to quality of care at all. I'm struggling to see what the correlation is. Yes it might be "healthcare", but its comparing a Caburys Cream Egg and a Faberge.

A lot of that $ cost is getting eaten up in Lambo's for consultants and Health Insurance salespeople.

Federal expenditure on MedicAid was $350bn, so there are a whopping huge number of people in the US on low incomes. Or they are getting ripped by the private hospitals / drug companies? Also, lots of doctors and dentists refuse to accept it, wanting private patients only.

From a value perspective, the US system has profit taking inserted at every level - the UK in nowhere near the same scale. It's a weird analogy. And Medicaid is a great example of why the UK won't go the same way as the US, it's the govt subsidising private sector companies. It doesn't make sense to pay more for less, it's a left wing bogeyman that only exists in their heads. Of course the US wants to get access, we don't have to buy from em; if more expensive. Or am I due a whoosh parrot.

To be honest, I'm struggling to find a single shred of credible deliverable policy in the Labour manifesto. It makes the SNP independence budgets (when oil was $120 a barrel), seem the height of prudence. I mean they are only 50% out....

[jakesmith]

Helicopter123 said:

Gerradi said:

jakesmith said:

He’s not an antisemitic Marxist is my motivation. Anorher few reasons ar McDonnel, Butler, Rayner, Abbott, Burgess, Wrong Daily. If I even thought there was any talent around the racist old to reign him in or moderate him I’d give him an easier ride and BoJo the hard ride he deserves. However if BoJo is not our PM on Friday I believe this country will probably be ruined forever.

BoJo is a turd for the record.

Where you going to go then "Jake"

Ah least if Corbyn retains freedom of movement, he can go and live and work in the EU. Every cloud...

Brilliant- you’re a barrel of laughs aren’t you. Shame it’s empty.

And actually if you knew the first thing about history, which is unlikely given the massive gaping chasm that is your awareness of world affairs, as evidenced by your ass getting served to you on almost every thread you naively wade into, you’d know that communist regimes do not let their populace leave. I can’t see a long queue forming to get in either to Owen Jones’ dystopian Britain where a slug is given equal weighting in law to a human. Read a book you fool. Thanks.

[S1KRR]

jakesmith said:

Tony427 said:

The child's mother is now asking that her child's experience is not politicised.

Bit too late for that once youve photographed your child and sent the piccies to the Mirror.

The facts of the case will come out one way or another but the political damage is done at whatever level

Traingate comes to mind for some reason though. Did the poor child sleep on coats for 4 days? That wouldn’t have been necessary surely.

Numerous quotes on Twitter from ACTUAL Nurses saying they wouldn't EVER put a child on the floor and then chuck a gas mask down on the floor next to him.



You can read the replies from other Health professionals below

https://twitter.com/glasterlaw1/status/12040728213...



It's a stitch up, just like Corby and his stupid Train stunt.

Labour really are desperate at the moment. Yet they forget that it wont make a cent of difference.

Those who vote Tory will do so anyway (whilst using critical reasoning to wonder what the full circumstance are.

And the terminally thick/jew haters/neverworkedbenefitrecipientswith7fkingkids will vote for Corby because apparently he's going to give them everything they ever wanted for free and save the NHS since it only has "DAYS LEFT"



Thankfully the UK has more in the first category than the second.

Boris isn't perfect, but compared the competition this time round he's a fking God!

Genuinely, I hope Labour kick Corby and Co out. Find a sensible moderate Centre Left type who can ACTUALLY get floating voters on board. A bit of competition from the opposition benches may well make the Conservatives become a bit more centre Right. TO try and get those same floating voters to their side. It wouldn't half remove the toxicity from Politics currently in the air.


Boris isn't a long term PM. Once Brexits done and a FTA with the EU sorted, and depending on how things are going in 5yrs time. He may well think "that's enough, I'm retiring to the after dinner speaking circuit"

[Helicopter123]

jakesmith said:

Helicopter123 said:

Gerradi said:

jakesmith said:

He’s not an antisemitic Marxist is my motivation. Anorher few reasons ar McDonnel, Butler, Rayner, Abbott, Burgess, Wrong Daily. If I even thought there was any talent around the racist old to reign him in or moderate him I’d give him an easier ride and BoJo the hard ride he deserves. However if BoJo is not our PM on Friday I believe this country will probably be ruined forever.

BoJo is a turd for the record.

Where you going to go then "Jake"

Ah least if Corbyn retains freedom of movement, he can go and live and work in the EU. Every cloud...

Brilliant- you’re a barrel of laughs aren’t you. Shame it’s empty.

And actually if you knew the first thing about history, which is unlikely given the massive gaping chasm that is your awareness of world affairs, as evidenced by your ass getting served to you on almost every thread you naively wade into, you’d know that communist regimes do not let their populace leave. I can’t see a long queue forming to get in either to Owen Jones’ dystopian Britain where a slug is given equal weighting in law to a human. Read a book you fool. Thanks.

You do know how Freedom of Movement actually works, don’t you?

[don'tbesilly]

techiedave said:

Cracking stuff
The comedy element has shown up. This will inject some humour into the thread and defuse the situation

You certainly called that right, backsides always end up on a plate and on every thread.

[anonymous-user]

Glorious stuff

[egor110]

Re the boy on the floor :

there's a post floating around facebook from a nursing sister at the hospital in question working at the time .

she claim's the photo was set up by his mother then he got back in his trolley , said trolley was in the paediatric a&e after a 20 min wait .

See this is the trouble , both sides are guilty or fighting dirty and the public don;t trust any of them .

[jakesmith]

Helicopter123 said:

You do know how Freedom of Movement actually works, don’t you?

You know Corbyn is a communist don’t you
You know Corbyn is a liar don’t you?
The only reason he even countenances FOM is to destabilise and destroy the UK.
He despises the British and the middle class, middle England.
Blair did a decent start on this and Corbyn would be that on steroids.

And then he’d pull the plug and people like you would say ‘we must stop the talent leaving’ years after they all left.

The only military body that would get funding from the UK apart from Russia would be the border force, who would shoot to kill everyone trying to leave, as has been the case in every other communist regime ever.

[don'tbesilly]

S1KRR said:

jakesmith said:

Tony427 said:

The child's mother is now asking that her child's experience is not politicised.

Bit too late for that once youve photographed your child and sent the piccies to the Mirror.

The facts of the case will come out one way or another but the political damage is done at whatever level

Traingate comes to mind for some reason though. Did the poor child sleep on coats for 4 days? That wouldn’t have been necessary surely.

Numerous quotes on Twitter from ACTUAL Nurses saying they wouldn't EVER put a child on the floor and then chuck a gas mask down on the floor next to him.



You can read the replies from other Health professionals below

https://twitter.com/glasterlaw1/status/12040728213...



It's a stitch up, just like Corby and his stupid Train stunt.

Labour really are desperate at the moment. Yet they forget that it wont make a cent of difference.

Those who vote Tory will do so anyway (whilst using critical reasoning to wonder what the full circumstance are.

And the terminally thick/jew haters/neverworkedbenefitrecipientswith7fkingkids will vote for Corby because apparently he's going to give them everything they ever wanted for free and save the NHS since it only has "DAYS LEFT"



Thankfully the UK has more in the first category than the second.

Boris isn't perfect, but compared the competition this time round he's a fking God!

Genuinely, I hope Labour kick Corby and Co out. Find a sensible moderate Centre Left type who can ACTUALLY get floating voters on board. A bit of competition from the opposition benches may well make the Conservatives become a bit more centre Right. TO try and get those same floating voters to their side. It wouldn't half remove the toxicity from Politics currently in the air.


Boris isn't a long term PM. Once Brexits done and a FTA with the EU sorted, and depending on how things are going in 5yrs time. He may well think "that's enough, I'm retiring to the after dinner speaking circuit"

It was obvious from the get go, yet the usual suspects fell for it.

[FN2TypeR]

CCTV would surely prove that one way or the other?

[Wombat3]

CypSIdders said:

All Blow Job had to say was, "That's shocking and totally unacceptable", but he couldn't even manage that.

The tory boys must be praying, with every breath, hoping beyond hope, clinging on to the merest thought that somehow, all the, gaff prone, buffoonery is an act and that he's not really the national embarrassment that he's been for the last few years.
They would have us believe, that one day, he's going to come good, become a statesman, a leader.
Not a chance, unfortunately for him and the country he's blown every chance he's ever had.
A leopard doesn't change its spots, Blow Job has zero integrity, with him in charge the UK will be the laughing stock of world, a mere one step up from the charlatan currently defrauding the US!

Blow Job? Really? Grow up or go to bed, school starts early.


As to the point at hand, why did he not say that? Obviously because , like all politicians he knows that any admission of failure, no matter how small, or whether its justified or relevant or important (in the wider context) will result in evisceration by the opposition friendly media at the drop of a hat.

Politicians behave as they do precisely because they know what the media's game is.

Its never about having an objective discussion, its simply to create a sensational headline and, with any luck, catch one of them off his guard saying something in a way that maybe he doesn't quite mean or didn't really intend - much as normal human beings do. Just because he's PM doesn't mean to say he cant or won't be lost for words once in a while & If you are judging him by that then you are ignoring pretty much everything that's actually important. Could he have done better? Obviously. Does it show anything particularly? Doubtful.

The net result is that our politics is always poorer for that because we seldom get to the real truth of anything any more. Everything said by politicians is carefully crafted & scripted & calculated to offer the least opportunity for debate and especially the least opportunity for the media to jump on it. Its all bks really.

So none of them will ever come out & say, "ya know what , one big reason the NHS is a bit fked is because we waste so much money treating fat, lazy gits with Type 2 diabetes! And we have too many piss-heads in A&E of an evening." because well, you can't say that, can you?

In this context "newsflash" a kid has to spend some time on the floor. OK, not ideal but he was in the right place. It was worthy of a byline & a question to the hospital management, at most. Is it the PM's fault directly? No. Hold the front page: A&E department has limited resources! or is that a surprise to some here? Its just not news.

Maybe this one was temporarily stuffed. Does anybody complaining about it know how often that happens in that particular place? Probably not.

Overall, do I care it happened? No, not really. Its not ideal but nobody died & the bigger picture is that the Health Service is , undeniably , under more demand than ever but also getting more resources than its ever had before. One may not be keeping pace with the other & it will always will need more, & hopefully we can afford to provide that but we have to start making some choices & have a grown up conversation about Healthcare (and a lot of other things) if we actually want to get anywhere.

Chances of that happening under any government? Limited at best while the media persists in pouncing on every last tiny detail & extrapolating mountains out of molehills wherever possible. The media are, IMO very much part of the problem with the state of politics in the UK (and elsewhere).

People complain about the calibre of people running for office - but honestly, you'd have to be a special kind of masochist to do it.

[citizensm1th]

And now we have jumped the shark

[jakesmith]

Someone posted earlier that 50% of NHS hospital budgets is reserved by trusts for litigation. I've not checked it but surely stopping the parasitic no win no fee lawyers and its accompanying 'compo' culture, and more money spent on training to reduce accidents & malpractice would be a good thing?