Cameron fires Aidan Burley for hiring Nazi uniform,

[CDP]

Oakey said:

This. My mates missus threw him a WWII themed fancy dress party for his 30th however German uniforms were banned. It was a pretty dreary looking party.

Second World War without the Germans sounds like a fairly dull party and where can one find a Mitsubishi Zero at such short notice?

[RYH64E]

One from the archives: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286627/Ed...
Ha ha

[Pesty]

0a said:

LOL.

Indeed has she been sacked yet?

[elster]

Du1point8 said:

elster said:

Du1point8 said:

He has a very public job and is supposed to be a role model and cleaner than white.

Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.

If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.

Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that st and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...

CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and st that would come from the media and Labour???

He basically put his own nails in the coffin.

I don't want a cleaner than white MP.

I want an ordinary person.

As much as I liked Louse Mensch's comments about the allegations of drug taking:
"1. Whilst working at EMI, in the 1990s, you took drugs with Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham, including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists. Photos of this exist."

Response
"1. Although I do not remember the specific incident, this sounds highly probable. I thoroughly enjoyed working with Nigel Kennedy, whom I remember with affection. Additionally, since I was in my twenties, I'm sure it was not the only incident of the kind; we all do idiotic things when young. I am not a very good dancer and must apologise to any and all journalists who were forced to watch me dance that night at Ronnie Scott's."

Cleaner than white doesn't mean not making arse of self dancing or having a few drinks.

It means keep out of the papers from doing anything stupid and make sure you have nothing that can come back to haunt you from your past.

It was more the doing lines of coke from the table at the time that was the issue. The fact I am making is I do not want people whiter than white running the country. I want an ordinary person, the whole purpose of the commons. Not some dullard robot who doesn't live in the real world.

[ExChrispy Porker]

Pesty said:

Indeed has she been sacked yet?

the one on the left looks like Ed Balls with a Chaplin/Hitler 'tache

[Crippo]

Aiden is my local MP. I have written to him on two previous occassions about topics taht I care about. He had teh good grace to reply to me and whilst some of it was party line bolx I appreciated teh thought. I admit that it seems a poor judgement but lets try and get some context about this. I dont know teh truth of the arrangements but, hey..this si an internet forum, lets not allow truth to get in teh way of our preconceptions.
But lets suppose he attends this stag party weekend and they all have a great time, they have some drinks and laughs and then tehn tehy go out for a meal, the groom dons a fancy dress costume for a laugh. You are teh MP , you've had a few drinks but you are still in charge of your faculties. You may think uh, oh..this doesnt make me feel good, but hey there are no paps about and its only one night and making a big song and ance about it would offend your new friends so you go along with it...maybe slightly reluctantly and have a great time.
You get home and find some trouble maker has taken a career ending photo of you......I can feel a certain amount of sympathy for the guy and I dont think it makes him the bigegst idiot in the World either.

[JensenA]

MX7 said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Ludicrous, sacking someone for it is oppression, not freedom!

The Tories were free to do whatever they liked. They sacked him.

You can wear a Nazi suit, but don't expect to think that some people won't think you're a cock for doing it.

If, sometime in the future, you ever attend a party where people are in fancy dress, and one of them happens to be wearing an SS Uniform. I hope you will realise just how much of a frigging cock you are.

[Du1point8]

JensenA said:

MX7 said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Ludicrous, sacking someone for it is oppression, not freedom!

The Tories were free to do whatever they liked. They sacked him.

You can wear a Nazi suit, but don't expect to think that some people won't think you're a cock for doing it.

If, sometime in the future, you ever attend a party where people are in fancy dress, and one of them happens to be wearing an SS Uniform. I hope you will realise just how much of a frigging cock you are.

I don't see how this any different from one of the banks suggesting to 30-40 of their staff that they look elsewhere for a job after they decided to go mental on their bonuses (one group spent £40k on a meal in london) and the main boss said thats not the kind of image they want to portray to the public and let them go.

[Dixie68]

The year I came back from Iraq I landed in the UK at the start of December and started 4 weeks of leave. During my leave I went to loads of parties, some of them fancy dress (shudder). I saw loads of people dressed as Saddam Hussein & OBL but didn't realise that I should've been offended by this - can someone please point me in the direction of a pamphlet that I can study to let me know what I should be offended by?
Or is it only WW2 fancy dress I should find shocking? Or, as I suspect, is this whole news story just a load of bks?

[Du1point8]

Dixie68 said:

The year I came back from Iraq I landed in the UK at the start of December and started 4 weeks of leave. During my leave I went to loads of parties, some of them fancy dress (shudder). I saw loads of people dressed as Saddam Hussein & OBL but didn't realise that I should've been offended by this - can someone please point me in the direction of a pamphlet that I can study to let me know what I should be offended by?
Or is it only WW2 fancy dress I should find shocking? Or, as I suspect, is this whole news story just a load of bks?

Its a load of bks but being in the Tory party you have to make sure that there is nothing that the media or Labour can pick up on no matter how petty like this.

Am sure if you were high up in the forces and dressed as saddam and it got noticed by the media you too would be out on a limb.

[Victor McDade]

Why sack him as PPS?

I mean if Cameron thinks his behaviour is unacceptable then expel him from the party. If not, then give him his full role back. Why the half measures?

[Dixie68]

Du1point8 said:

Am sure if you were high up in the forces and dressed as saddam and it got noticed by the media you too would be out on a limb.

Which makes it even more ridiculous - some of the fancy dress parties I was at were squadron do's and some of those dressed up as SH & OBL were indeed relatively high ranking officers. If the press were to act outraged just who were the people they were doing it for? Presumably the people who fought in the war, yet we were there partying alongside them.
I do get your point but it's come to something when someone can't wear fancy dress at a party & be accused of somehow supporting the actions of whoever they're dressed up as. I can't imagine a more boring party than one where everyone has to dress up as someone who was 'nice'. No horror characters would mean an end to Halloween for a start.... actually there's a thought

[Du1point8]

Dixie68 said:

Du1point8 said:

Am sure if you were high up in the forces and dressed as saddam and it got noticed by the media you too would be out on a limb.

Which makes it even more ridiculous - some of the fancy dress parties I was at were squadron do's and some of those dressed up as SH & OBL were indeed relatively high ranking officers. If the press were to act outraged just who were the people they were doing it for? Presumably the people who fought in the war, yet we were there partying alongside them.
I do get your point but it's come to something when someone can't wear fancy dress at a party & be accused of somehow supporting the actions of whoever they're dressed up as. I can't imagine a more boring party than one where everyone has to dress up as someone who was 'nice'. No horror characters would mean an end to Halloween for a start.... actually there's a thought

Your missing the point here completely.

Its public perception not whether or not your colleagues think its ok, if you are public faced then you will always have someone that is outraged by it....

Ed Balls has done it before and I bet the Torys thought that it was not on, now its a Tory or should I say the fact that he thought it would be a good idea (yet to be verified but he's not denied it) to get the groom it and wearing that in a country were its illegal kind of is the tipping point.

[Dixie68]

Du1point8 said:

Your missing the point here completely.

Its public perception not whether or not your colleagues think its ok, if you are public faced then you will always have someone that is outraged by it....

Ed Balls has done it before and I bet the Torys thought that it was not on, now its a Tory or should I say the fact that he thought it would be a good idea (yet to be verified but he's not denied it) to get the groom it and wearing that in a country were its illegal kind of is the tipping point.

No I'm not, I was agreeing with you, I was just pointing out that the people who would have cause to be offended usually aren't & that others feel they should be offended for them.

[0a]

People should stop being offended on behalf of other people.

Can anyone here argue about how good he was (or not) at his job aside from pointing at one night at a random party?

[elster]

Victor McDade said:

Why sack him as PPS?

I mean if Cameron thinks his behaviour is unacceptable then expel him from the party. If not, then give him his full role back. Why the half measures?

Cameron can't do that.

[BOR]

It's a bit tricky for The Tory because they are a right wing party. Some are centre-right, some are right wing some are a little bit more right wing than others ifyouknowworimean? So when a Tory dresses as a n@zi, there is that nagging doubt that a tiny litle bit of him agrees with n@ziism.

Anyone else could get away with it. The equivalent for LAB would be dressing as Joe Stalin. If a Tory did that I would laugh it off, if it was a LAB MP, then I would find it pretty unpleasant.

[Digga]

thinfourth2 said:

And folk wonder why we end up with clueless virgins as our elected MPs

A shame. He was actually a pretty decent MP and was actually involved in some good work within the constituency.

[thinfourth2]

BOR said:

It's a bit tricky for The Tory because they are a right wing party. Some are centre-right, some are right wing some are a little bit more right wing than others ifyouknowworimean? So when a Tory dresses as a n@zi, there is that nagging doubt that a tiny litle bit of him agrees with n@ziism.

He hadn't dressed up as a Nazi

He stood next to someone dressed up as a Nazi

[heebeegeetee]

I think there are a couple of groups of people the company of whom I could not stand: The type of person who has lived in such a tiny world that he thinks it would be a hoot to dress in a nazi costume when in a country that really suffered under the nazis (or whoever); and the type of person who enjoys abusing the locals and/or waiting staff.

The latter group normally consist of people who have suffered a degree of inbreeding and very, very rarely operate outside their own comfort which in itself is something of a moral vacuum.

There are few people more boring than those who delight in abusing the locals, and I cannot stand boring people.

The fact that this MP enjoys such company tells me that I would not want him as my MP. I would have to have someone who gets out more often.