Protesters blocking various M25 Junctions

[survivalist]

DFLR said:

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:

Dog Star said:

Joey Deacon said:

More of this please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUNMCMdfOU0

And look at the protestors, they look more like middle class Guardian readers than crusties. The two on the train, especially the one with the pony tail got what they deserved.

That has proper cheered me up - that baldie Stathamish character and pony-tail boy - the sheer panic and the way everyone starts putting the boot in.

You can tell that the way they're having a "sit in" up on the roof they think they're going to get the touchy-feely Police approach, but nope - their stuff gets tossed off the top and they do too.

That video still brings a happy tear to the eye

Of all the stations in the country to do that, they chose Canning Town.

They're lucky they walked away.

Old link, but it makes a good point.

For the record, I think Piers Morgan is a massive tt but he makes a relevant point. Seems to me that the majority of these protesters want someone else to save the planet so that they can live in relative luxury. Lead by example (forgo air travel, cycle everywhere etc) and I might be more inclined to listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISePLL1wcw

[stinkyspanner]

If I was in pole position at one of these sit ins I think I would press my horn and not let go and hope their eardrums are weaker than their committment to ruin everyone's day. Probably less illegal than kicking them in the face too

[Ozone]

I'm travelling to Heathrow next Monday. If this st happens and I'm stuck in it, I'll be knocking on car and van windows to see who is up for some protester removal (I may end up on a lone mission.... ). The police are fking useless with protesters, if all the people on the road were speeding, the fines and points would be dished out like sweets. How did law enforcement get to the point of allowing tts to disrupt thousands of people going about their daily business.

[Ian Geary]

BlueFocus said:

Why don't the police just drag them out of the way ?

What law stops them from doing that ?

Pretty sure the high court recently upheld that protest fits the definition of "excuse" in the highways act when it comes to block roads.

Plus "human rights" for protest etc.

If not breaking law, then using force to move them would be a crime.

The police know this, hence inaction

[Ian Geary]

stinkyspanner said:

If I was in pole position at one of these sit ins I think I would press my horn and not let go and hope their eardrums are weaker than their committment to ruin everyone's day. Probably less illegal than kicking them in the face too

As would I, and I have air horns fitted to my bike. It would be a question of do I have enough petrol to keep generating electricity for the duration of the protest?

But likely I'd end up prosecuted instead of them

Whilst the police can't take overt action, I wonder what they could do to make the protest unappealing

Without food or water being locked onto something must get pretty boring. And cold

But as it is, we'd probably tie up ambulances to get them a blanket and hot drinks.

This is probably too recent for the police and crime bill to deal with, but blocking major arteries shouldn't be something people can walk away not guilty from, or with a token conditional discharge imo.

[SpeckledJim]

Can I protest the people using the road outside my house? My protest could take the form of parking a car sideways across the road, everyone else can find a different way to work (or hospital) and I can enjoy the peace and quiet.

Am I not entitled to peace and quiet? Not to mention the improved air quality.

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

Can I protest the people using the road outside my house? My protest could take the form of parking a car sideways across the road, everyone else can find a different way to work (or hospital) and I can enjoy the peace and quiet.

Am I not entitled to peace and quiet? Not to mention the improved air quality.

Careful, you'll end up on a thread like this one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[Diderot]

Green Party condoning the protests too I see and the BBC allowing them oxygen to spread their own particular brand of arsewipery.

[anonymous-user]

"Insulate Britain" - I took this to be an offshoot of the 'Brexit' Party

[Hoofy]

280E said:

"Insulate Britain" - I took this to be an offshoot of the 'Brexit' Party

[Biker 1]

I wonder what type of insulation they are promoting? Rigid stuff like Celotex, as used on the Grenfell tower - full of nasty chemicals, flammable. Rockwool - melted rock that uses an extraordinary amount of energy to produce. Fibreglass - nasty chemicals & horrible stuff to install/breath in. Sheeps wool insulation - attracts infestations of moths......
As for retrofitting: apart from loft roll, most systems are very difficult to install 'after the event'. We would be better off tearing down all the knackered old housing stock & starting again. I assume the muppets have calculated the costs & time frames involved????

[mcdjl]

Biker 1 said:

I wonder what type of insulation they are promoting? Rigid stuff like Celotex, as used on the Grenfell tower - full of nasty chemicals, flammable. Rockwool - melted rock that uses an extraordinary amount of energy to produce. Fibreglass - nasty chemicals & horrible stuff to install/breath in. Sheeps wool insulation - attracts infestations of moths......
As for retrofitting: apart from loft roll, most systems are very difficult to install 'after the event'. We would be better off tearing down all the knackered old housing stock & starting again. I ass u me the muppets have calculated the costs & time frames involved????

muppets being the correct word.

[Derek Smith]

Dromedary66 said:

The police should have instantly dragged them off to the side of the road and given them the hiding of their lives.

Utter s.

If I understand you correctly, you are resentful of people who break the law by interfering in the lives of those whom they have no connection with. I can see that.

What confuses me is why you seemingly support law-breaking by those whose role is to uphold the law. You support brutality, it seems, as long as it is directed against those who act peacefully. That's a bit confusing to me. What about when the illegal brutality is directed at you?

[paulw123]

SydneyBridge said:

Joey Deacon said:

Don't the majority of these protestors live in massive houses and have enough money to not actually need to work? Then they go about blocking roads or gluing themselves to trains and inconveniencing those who have to go to work each day and are not in such a privileged position as them.

I loved the video a couple of years back where two men decided to sit on the roof of a train and were swiftly dragged down and beaten by the group of commuters who simply wanted to get to work that day.

We had one near us recently, such a shame that somebody didn't just drag her out of the way.

Hope she got crushed in the stampede when a commuter train got in.....

Terrified of a ‘climate crisis’ but fine with sitting in the middle of a road. Sums up these idiots.

[SpeckledJim]

Derek Smith said:

Dromedary66 said:

The police should have instantly dragged them off to the side of the road and given them the hiding of their lives.

Utter s.

If I understand you correctly, you are resentful of people who break the law by interfering in the lives of those whom they have no connection with. I can see that.

What confuses me is why you seemingly support law-breaking by those whose role is to uphold the law. You support brutality, it seems, as long as it is directed against those who act peacefully. That's a bit confusing to me. What about when the illegal brutality is directed at you?

I think he's suggesting, maybe with some hyperbole, that the police, trained as they are in moving obstreperous people from place A to place B, are perfectly-suited to the job of shifting a few dheads from obstructing a road, on which paramedics are trying to get desperately ill people to hospital.

That, instead of standing there with their hands warming inside their stab vests, they should be keeping the peace, by keeping the roads open for ambulances.

What's the moral difference between blockading a motorway junction, and blockading A&E, if ambulances need access to both?

If you wouldn't endorse my right to protest Pigeon's Rights by gluing myself to the windscreen of an ambulance, why can insulation fans shut half of London's motorway network and immobilise ambulances that way?

[rjfp1962]

Are they out there again today, or is it a bit too cold and rainy....?!

[Dog Chops]

Yeah, too wet and cold.
If they'd just let the climate warm up a bit then it wouldn't be too cold and also no-one would need to insulate their houses cos it'd be nice and toasty outside...

[csd19]

Derek Smith said:

Dromedary66 said:

The police should have instantly dragged them off to the side of the road and given them the hiding of their lives.

Utter s.

(Snip)

What confuses me is why you seemingly support law-breaking by those whose role is to uphold the law.

So did you a few weeks ago, you wouldn't shop a family member even if you knew they were participating in illegal activities. Pot, kettle much?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by csd19 on Tuesday 14th September 12:57

[catso]

protestors said:

"demand the government insulate Britain".

I thought they were?

At least that's what the numerous Indian sounding people, with remarkably English sounding names call to tell me that my House has been selected for on a weekly basis...

[Northernboy]

Vasco said:

I'm more surprised that anyone noticed a jam on the M25, it's usually one big jam whenever I go round there.

I went round the whole Southern half at a steady 75mph last night (other than the two shirt bits where there were workers.)