CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 10)
Discussion
anonymous said:
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You may laugh, but in Scotland you'd be legally obliged to report that to the government.https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2021/83/note/ma...
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Plymo said:
On the radio yesterday, I'm not sure if I misheard but one of them said between 30,000 and 100,000 deaths if things open up too quickly 
Where are they going to find the customers for that? They've all been vaccinated. They'd have to fok around with a bucket full of Covid dousing people to even get close. Time for the silly scientists to be out back in their box and left playing with Excel and Jenga.
Lockdown enthusiasts will take great delight in telling you that the vaccine doesn't stop them catching it, or the risk of dying from it. So we need more lockdown. And masks. More masks.
That'll sort it.
Plymo said:
anonymous said:
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On the radio yesterday, I'm not sure if I misheard but one of them said between 30,000 and 100,000 deaths if things open up too quickly It seems that the slow speed of unlocking is down to the "scientists" desire to see what effect each measure has in turn!
They don't seem to realise this is people's lives and livelihoods, not a science experiment.
(Though to be fair, the real blame lies with spineless politicians - they should know that the opinion of a scientist tasked solely with reducing the spread of covid will care about that measure alone!)
Apart fom the Vaccine development and rollout programme everything else the govt has done has been an unmitigated disaster and harmed the general population.
Border management was a complete disaster.
PPS disaster. ( Unless you are a mate of a Tory or a tory Donor)
Nightingales diaster. Build, break down, build again and guess whats happening now.......
Modelling disaster. Out by a Ferguson. and Whitty et al are still at it.
NHS disaster. Do feck all all summer, see waiting lists climb, see the oncoming Tsunami of disease and cases and then still do nothing.
Track and Trace. Words fail me as to the incompetence and financial negligence demonstrated here.
Scotch Eggs. N'uff said.
Lockdowns applied after cases are demonstrably falling.
Care homes.
Terrifying the public.
Using MSM not as information providers but as Propoganda machines.
" Look into their eyes" Just FO.
Industries Laid Waste.
Unemployment increasing and will be far higher when Furlough ends.
Schools and further education. The very people not effected completely f'd over.
The only saving grace is that we didnt have comrade Corbyn making it even worse. We would have been in with the EU on their vaccine debacle.
anonymous said:
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They will grasp as long as they can. It's in their best interests for their business model. I am gearing up for a full Summer of this, to be honest. With schools returning they'll be rubbing their grubby hands together waiting for a 38 year old secondary school Science teacher to get it so they can rinse the day light out of it. Oh and just wait until the beaches are full. THE BEACHES EVERYONE.
anonymous said:
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The borough of Guildford has gone from 34.2 to 34.9 cases per 100k. Guildford has a population of 150k...that means 1 extra person tested positive... It appears to be the same for South Somerset, West Oxfordshire, Tewkesbury and West Oxfordshire. Some like West Devon appear to have had 2 extra positive tests.Truely a new Covid epicentre. We should extend lockdown until July to make sure we send it packing for good.
Folks, I came up with a bit of a pet theory last night and I was wondering if you could indulge me for a couple of minutes - don't worry, there's no 5G or eternal lockdown content, more musing about natural factors which may determine how different countries handled the pandemic.
We know that Australia and New Zealand has very low levels of COVID and deaths from it, so well done to our antipodean friends. The Zero COVID lot will always hold them up as the proof that swift action works, however I think there is something else at play that isn't entirely being considered.
I cast my mind back to science class when I was growing up, and Aus/NZ were mentioned a lot back then in relation to the scare story of the time - the hole in the Ozone layer. Less ozone means less UV Filtration of sunlight, means more UV radiation hitting Earth below it.
There's been quite a bit of research looking into the effects of UV on Coronavirus - no, not the Orange Man injecting it into everyone - but in Israel, where they've been looking to see if COVID can be killed with UV light, with a view to building it into filtration systems. The results so far have been pretty impressive:
https://www.israel21c.org/you-can-kill-covid-with-...
So I started thinking what else UV is associated with, and got to the fairly grisly subject of skin cancer - too many harmful UV rays are well known to be a cause of this, so thought I'd do some more Googling and came up with the below:
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cancer-trends/s...
Australia/New Zealand at the top of the pile, as you would expect if they are having issues with their UV filter in the sky. Interestingly the league table there almost seems to be a mirror image of how affected the same countries were with COVID.....
So whilst they did keep their numbers low, is it not the case that Australia / New Zealand were an incredibly harsh environment for the virus to survive - especially given the virus arrived in summer when everyone was outside enjoying the weather?
Ergo let's not shower too much praise on them, considering they were playing Call of COVID 2020 on the Easy Setting?
Feel free to tell me I'm talking nonsense, but the above seemed entirely sensible when it popped into my head at 1:30 this morning....
We know that Australia and New Zealand has very low levels of COVID and deaths from it, so well done to our antipodean friends. The Zero COVID lot will always hold them up as the proof that swift action works, however I think there is something else at play that isn't entirely being considered.
I cast my mind back to science class when I was growing up, and Aus/NZ were mentioned a lot back then in relation to the scare story of the time - the hole in the Ozone layer. Less ozone means less UV Filtration of sunlight, means more UV radiation hitting Earth below it.
There's been quite a bit of research looking into the effects of UV on Coronavirus - no, not the Orange Man injecting it into everyone - but in Israel, where they've been looking to see if COVID can be killed with UV light, with a view to building it into filtration systems. The results so far have been pretty impressive:
https://www.israel21c.org/you-can-kill-covid-with-...
So I started thinking what else UV is associated with, and got to the fairly grisly subject of skin cancer - too many harmful UV rays are well known to be a cause of this, so thought I'd do some more Googling and came up with the below:
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cancer-trends/s...
Australia/New Zealand at the top of the pile, as you would expect if they are having issues with their UV filter in the sky. Interestingly the league table there almost seems to be a mirror image of how affected the same countries were with COVID.....
So whilst they did keep their numbers low, is it not the case that Australia / New Zealand were an incredibly harsh environment for the virus to survive - especially given the virus arrived in summer when everyone was outside enjoying the weather?
Ergo let's not shower too much praise on them, considering they were playing Call of COVID 2020 on the Easy Setting?
Feel free to tell me I'm talking nonsense, but the above seemed entirely sensible when it popped into my head at 1:30 this morning....
Saint fauci collaborates with the CCP
https://dossier.substack.com/p/fauci-shares-stage-...
https://dossier.substack.com/p/fauci-shares-stage-...
link said:
Dr. Zhong Nanshan, a top “expert” in China’s National Health Commission who has been described as “China’s Fauci,” shared a panel with the NIAID chief over Zoom last week. The two discussed COVID-19 policy in a webinar organized by the University of Edinburgh, which also featured “experts” from the Gates Foundation and the World Health Organization.
In his comments, Zhong hammered the Trump Administration and America in general, but praised the Biden Administration for rejoining the WHO. The Chinese official shared provably false information about China’s COVID-19 response and statistics, and claimed China’s brutal lockdown of Wuhan resulted in China winning its battle against COVID-19.
A loyal CCP member, Zhong spewed endless streams of false information, as lockdowns have not worked anywhere they have been tried, and they have been tried in almost every country in the world, with no demonstrable positive results.
Zhong continued, showing a slide presenting the U.S. as having the world’s worse COVID-19 response, with China demonstrating the world’s best response, which again, he attributes to the lockdown in Wuhan.
Zhong ended his presentation urging other countries not to open their economies just yet, and to perhaps wait until the entire world is vaccinated, which will take a few years. He also made the baseless claim that vaccine immunity is superior to natural immunity, which he falsely described as “less-scientific.” Meanwhile, China’s economy and society, which includes a largely unvaccinated population, has been open since March of 2020
In his comments, Zhong hammered the Trump Administration and America in general, but praised the Biden Administration for rejoining the WHO. The Chinese official shared provably false information about China’s COVID-19 response and statistics, and claimed China’s brutal lockdown of Wuhan resulted in China winning its battle against COVID-19.
A loyal CCP member, Zhong spewed endless streams of false information, as lockdowns have not worked anywhere they have been tried, and they have been tried in almost every country in the world, with no demonstrable positive results.
Zhong continued, showing a slide presenting the U.S. as having the world’s worse COVID-19 response, with China demonstrating the world’s best response, which again, he attributes to the lockdown in Wuhan.
Zhong ended his presentation urging other countries not to open their economies just yet, and to perhaps wait until the entire world is vaccinated, which will take a few years. He also made the baseless claim that vaccine immunity is superior to natural immunity, which he falsely described as “less-scientific.” Meanwhile, China’s economy and society, which includes a largely unvaccinated population, has been open since March of 2020
anonymous said:
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That's hilarious... firstly the use of decimals to make the numbers seem bigger at first glance (OMG! It's three digits!) and second some of the changes; Tewkesbury up to 28.4 from 27.4/10000, West Oxfordshire up a whole 0.9 from 25.3/100000, ... and as for Guildford with a rate increasing by 0.7/100000 only nuking from orbit will do.bodhi said:
Folks, I came up with a bit of a pet theory last night and I was wondering if you could indulge me for a couple of minutes - don't worry, there's no 5G or eternal lockdown content, more musing about natural factors which may determine how different countries handled the pandemic.
We know that Australia and New Zealand has very low levels of COVID and deaths from it, so well done to our antipodean friends. The Zero COVID lot will always hold them up as the proof that swift action works, however I think there is something else at play that isn't entirely being considered.
I cast my mind back to science class when I was growing up, and Aus/NZ were mentioned a lot back then in relation to the scare story of the time - the hole in the Ozone layer. Less ozone means less UV Filtration of sunlight, means more UV radiation hitting Earth below it.
There's been quite a bit of research looking into the effects of UV on Coronavirus - no, not the Orange Man injecting it into everyone - but in Israel, where they've been looking to see if COVID can be killed with UV light, with a view to building it into filtration systems. The results so far have been pretty impressive:
https://www.israel21c.org/you-can-kill-covid-with-...
So I started thinking what else UV is associated with, and got to the fairly grisly subject of skin cancer - too many harmful UV rays are well known to be a cause of this, so thought I'd do some more Googling and came up with the below:
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cancer-trends/s...
Australia/New Zealand at the top of the pile, as you would expect if they are having issues with their UV filter in the sky. Interestingly the league table there almost seems to be a mirror image of how affected the same countries were with COVID.....
So whilst they did keep their numbers low, is it not the case that Australia / New Zealand were an incredibly harsh environment for the virus to survive - especially given the virus arrived in summer when everyone was outside enjoying the weather?
Ergo let's not shower too much praise on them, considering they were playing Call of COVID 2020 on the Easy Setting?
Feel free to tell me I'm talking nonsense, but the above seemed entirely sensible when it popped into my head at 1:30 this morning....
This video from Hugo Talks on the WEF's latest UV-lamp offerings is interesting...We know that Australia and New Zealand has very low levels of COVID and deaths from it, so well done to our antipodean friends. The Zero COVID lot will always hold them up as the proof that swift action works, however I think there is something else at play that isn't entirely being considered.
I cast my mind back to science class when I was growing up, and Aus/NZ were mentioned a lot back then in relation to the scare story of the time - the hole in the Ozone layer. Less ozone means less UV Filtration of sunlight, means more UV radiation hitting Earth below it.
There's been quite a bit of research looking into the effects of UV on Coronavirus - no, not the Orange Man injecting it into everyone - but in Israel, where they've been looking to see if COVID can be killed with UV light, with a view to building it into filtration systems. The results so far have been pretty impressive:
https://www.israel21c.org/you-can-kill-covid-with-...
So I started thinking what else UV is associated with, and got to the fairly grisly subject of skin cancer - too many harmful UV rays are well known to be a cause of this, so thought I'd do some more Googling and came up with the below:
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/cancer-trends/s...
Australia/New Zealand at the top of the pile, as you would expect if they are having issues with their UV filter in the sky. Interestingly the league table there almost seems to be a mirror image of how affected the same countries were with COVID.....
So whilst they did keep their numbers low, is it not the case that Australia / New Zealand were an incredibly harsh environment for the virus to survive - especially given the virus arrived in summer when everyone was outside enjoying the weather?
Ergo let's not shower too much praise on them, considering they were playing Call of COVID 2020 on the Easy Setting?
Feel free to tell me I'm talking nonsense, but the above seemed entirely sensible when it popped into my head at 1:30 this morning....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROdlfKxSes0
Perhaps we shall soon all be bathed in the warm invisible
(*For the electricians on here, yes, I am aware they are not 'bulbs'
)isaldiri said:
Taylor James said:
However, unless this is the first respiratory virus in history that doesn't affect fewer people in warmer months, expect more restrictions later in the year with the arrival of the Death Star airborne mutant variant (aka people start dying of flu and pneumonia in their tens of thousands like most years).
The only hope for a return to 2019 levels of normality is if the current group of
influencing scientists is changed or their terms of reference are changed.
You see I genuinely wonder why some people are seeming so desperately wishing for restrictions to return in winter for flu etc .... mainly it seems so they can say 'i told you so'. The only hope for a return to 2019 levels of normality is if the current group of
influencing scientists is changed or their terms of reference are changed.
Unlike some I still even at this point don't think people like Whitty and Vallance etc are doing or saying whatever they have out of some desire to destroy capitalist society or to setup whatever nefarious future planned for us by the not so secret group of 'elites' otherwise known as the WEF.
Restrictions look like they have been broadly set in place to preserve NHS capacity and in particular ICU/critical capacity. In a normal/mild flu winter, we have about 3k on average. In a bad flu winter that goes up to 3200-3300. In spring 2020 we had ~4500. By early nov with mainly only the north of England affected icu capacity was already at 3000 ish. At the high point of jan it was 5000+. Restrictions as implemented here were extremely crude and badly targeted of course but whether through lack of imagination or ability to think otherwise or more just plain political cowardice, nothing else other than blanket restrictions were considered.
That risk of very high numbers in icu isn't present anymore given the high levels of vaccination rollout in the elderly groups. Sure it's theoretically possible from modelling that if everyone gets infected again then high-ish numbers will start appearing in hospitals or dropping dead again but real life data (ie last summer) suggests that is very unlikely and by winter the over 50s will be long done and then there simply isn't that risk even if a severe flu winter happens again, especially as we've quite a few less vulnerable people to respiratory illnesses....
Stuzza said:
anonymous said:
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That's hilarious... firstly the use of decimals to make the numbers seem bigger at first glance (OMG! It's three digits!) and second some of the changes; Tewkesbury up to 28.4 from 27.4/10000, West Oxfordshire up a whole 0.9 from 25.3/100000, ... and as for Guildford with a rate increasing by 0.7/100000 only nuking from orbit will do.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff