Election 2019

[Mr_Megalomaniac]

Digga said:

it was not JCB's own, but rather, was one of their customer's machines

That was surprising, well spot!

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Nickgnome said:

There is no mention of Corbyn in my or the previous posters quote. Your deductive skills have fallen well wide of the mark this time.

You mean the one that was saying everyone apart from the thick racists is voting Labour. The one you quoted.

Yes, I suppose that voting Labour in no way endorses Corbyn. No way at all. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Digga]

Captain Raymond Holt said:

Digga said:

Andy20vt said:

Digga said:

Two of the wealthiest business owners I know are, it turns out, both fiercely pro-Brexit and, in this GE, fiercely pro-Tory.

Oh here we go - now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork with their fictional Tory/Brexit voting friends to try and disprove my post.

I provided a link to one of them, you plank.

The other, well he keeps his opinions to himself, so I will not 'out' him here, but suffice to say, his firm run some of the biggest, most expensive CNC machine tools in Europe and world for manufacturing clients around the globe. He's not "Little Britain" in the least.

I think we know the same guy (you more so than I by the sound of it though).

I do not personally know him well, but rather of him as he's a customer, but deals with colleagues. Comes across as a decent guy.

[anonymous-user]

Nickgnome said:

Andy20vt said:

Frank7 said:

Haha nice, except I think you find that a large proportion of Conservative voters are retired.

Out of all my friends the ones doing well for themselves, running successful businesses, the lawyers, the doctors, the highly educated, the most read and informed etc. are all, without exception voting for Pro-EU parties.

Those people I know that are not doing so well, (the less open minded you could argue), the ones who haven't traveled extensively (and by travel I don't mean a cheap week getting pissed in the Costa del Sol), and the pensioners, who are scared about a lot of stuff, are the ones tending to vote for parties with a Brexity message.

Similarly those idiots who complain about foreigners taking their jobs are tending to vote for Brexity parties this time around. In the past they'd have probably voted Labour, but such is the PR machine success of the Tory party that they have now convinced Turkeys to vote for Christmas. If you're worried about a foreigner taking your job then it's not the EU's fault - it's probably just that you're st at your job.

Nail, head.

Spot on.

Oh come on Nick, even you aren’t gullible enough to fall for that tripe, are you?

Read the first paragraph like this, and then ask yourself, could it really be true?

‘Out of all my friends the ones doing well for themselves, running successful businesses, the lawyers, the doctors, the highly educated, the most read and informed etc. are all, without exception wasting their votes.“

Because the only actively pro EU Parties don’t have a chance in hell of gaining power, and voting for them can only favour a Labour win, which no one ”doing well for themselves, running successful businesses, the lawyers, the doctors, the highly educated, the most read and informed etc” would want.

[Helicopter123]

Pound a little lower (I'm watching against the USD) but not significantly so.

Banks are conducting there own private exit polling again so we should have an indication if these were suggesting anything conclusive either way.

[ChocolateFrog]

Andy20vt said:

Digga said:

Two of the wealthiest business owners I know are, it turns out, both fiercely pro-Brexit and, in this GE, fiercely pro-Tory.

Oh here we go - now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork with their fictional Tory/Brexit voting friends to try and disprove my post.

Where's that fact checking service when you need it.

[anonymous-user]

Andy20vt said:

Digga said:

Two of the wealthiest business owners I know are, it turns out, both fiercely pro-Brexit and, in this GE, fiercely pro-Tory.

Oh here we go - now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork with their fictional Tory/Brexit voting friends to try and disprove my post.

It's much easier to believe than your friends voting Labour.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Andy20vt said:

Oh here we go - now everyone is crawling out of the woodwork with their fictional Tory/Brexit voting friends to try and disprove my post.

Yes, because the "friends" you mentioned are in no way made up.

[Digga]

Mr_Megalomaniac said:

Digga said:

it was not JCB's own, but rather, was one of their customer's machines

That was surprising, well spot!

Not really, I follow him on Twitter and it was on his feed.

He had Boris with him at his firm's new HQ during the Brexit campaign.

[chrispmartha]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

chrispmartha said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Bullett said:

Andy20vt said:

Haha nice, except I think you find that a large proportion of Conservative voters are retired.

Out of all my friends the ones doing well for themselves, running successful businesses, the lawyers, the doctors, the highly educated, the most read and informed etc. are all, without exception voting for Pro-EU parties.

Those people I know that are not doing so well, (the less open minded you could argue), the ones who haven't traveled extensively (and by travel I don't mean a cheap week getting pissed in the Costa del Sol), and the pensioners, who are scared about a lot of stuff, are the ones tending to vote for parties with a Brexity message.

Similarly those idiots who complain about foreigners taking their jobs are tending to vote for Brexity parties this time around. In the past they'd have probably voted Labour, but such is the PR machine success of the Tory party that they have now convinced Turkeys to vote for Christmas. If you're worried about a foreigner taking your job then it's not the EU's fault - it's probably just that you're st at your job.

So you are saying that Brexit voters are thick, lazy racists?
It's exactly this type of rubbish that causes so much division.

Beat me to it.

Horrible sneery attitude from someone who purports to hold the moral high ground over Tory voters.

+3

Yet you've just agreed with a post saying people voting for labour are stupid, you're a different side of the same coin

This is the part I was agreeing with.

"Except it isn't. In my sphere, which involves a lot of well-travelled professional people working for a variety of small, medium and large corporations - the conservative vote is where they are heading"

Well you should have snipped the quote to make it clear ;-)

[Big Easy]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Nickgnome said:

Nail, head.

Spot on.

Except it isn't. In my sphere, which involves a lot of well-traveled professional people working for a variety of small, medium and large corporations - the conservative vote is where they are heading.

Only stupid people will vote for Corbyn and his band of nutters. The gullible who fall for the bullst if you like.

Exactly.

Stupid people like the 163 economists who signed a letter stating “It seems clear to us that the Labour party has not only understood the deep problems we face, but has devised serious proposals for dealing with them. We believe it deserves to form the next government”?

[Captain Raymond Holt]

Big Easy said:

ELUSIVEJIM said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Nickgnome said:

Nail, head.

Spot on.

Except it isn't. In my sphere, which involves a lot of well-traveled professional people working for a variety of small, medium and large corporations - the conservative vote is where they are heading.

Only stupid people will vote for Corbyn and his band of nutters. The gullible who fall for the bullst if you like.

Exactly.

Stupid people like the 163 economists who signed a letter stating “It seems clear to us that the Labour party has not only understood the deep problems we face, but has devised serious proposals for dealing with them. We believe it deserves to form the next government”?

Was that before or after the £58bn WASPI give away?

[Digga]

Big Easy said:

Stupid people like the 163 economists who signed a letter stating “It seems clear to us that the Labour party has not only understood the deep problems we face, but has devised serious proposals for dealing with them. We believe it deserves to form the next government”?

No mark, pro-EU academics. It's not really surprising.

David Blanchflower.

Also:

The FT said:

Other economists have questioned whether it will be easy for the government to spend such large amounts quickly without waste and choosing poor investment projects.

https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae

[Tuna]

Nickgnome said:

Andy20vt said:

Frank7 said:

Haha nice, except I think you find that a large proportion of Conservative voters are retired.

Out of all my friends the ones doing well for themselves, running successful businesses, the lawyers, the doctors, the highly educated, the most read and informed etc. are all, without exception voting for Pro-EU parties.

Those people I know that are not doing so well, (the less open minded you could argue), the ones who haven't traveled extensively (and by travel I don't mean a cheap week getting pissed in the Costa del Sol), and the pensioners, who are scared about a lot of stuff, are the ones tending to vote for parties with a Brexity message.

Similarly those idiots who complain about foreigners taking their jobs are tending to vote for Brexity parties this time around. In the past they'd have probably voted Labour, but such is the PR machine success of the Tory party that they have now convinced Turkeys to vote for Christmas. If you're worried about a foreigner taking your job then it's not the EU's fault - it's probably just that you're st at your job.

Nail, head.

Spot on.

You both seem to know a lot of truly clueless business owners then, if they seriously consider the alternatives to the Tories to be good for their businesses, their employees and the economy as a whole.

[Tuna]

BigMon said:

And there's no horrible, sneery attitudes about the type of people who vote Labour on here is there.

Mainly it's just genuine concern.

[anonymous-user]

I wonder if the weather will come into play, peeing it down all day.
It could stop the younger Labour voters from getting out of bed.
But equally could stop the coffin dodger Tories from going out, in case they get a chill

[anonymous-user]

A car crashed through a wall outside a polling station in West Sussex this morning.

The crash took place outside West Ashling and Funtington District Hall in Chichester at about 09:00.

Sussex Police said no-one was injured and the station remained open for voters.

[Mr_Megalomaniac]

Big Easy said:

Stupid people like the 163 economists who signed a letter stating “It seems clear to us that the Labour party has not only understood the deep problems we face, but has devised serious proposals for dealing with them. We believe it deserves to form the next government”?

Keynesians hardly qualify as economists.

[Camoradi]

Jimboka said:

I wonder if the weather will come into play, peeing it down all day.
It could stop the younger Labour voters from getting out of bed.
But equally could stop the coffin dodger Tories from going out, in case they get a chill

It didn't stop my 93 year old neighbour who suffered a stroke a couple of months ago from getting out and voting

But then he did play rugby union for England after fighting in WW2, and when he suffered a stroke he only took 90 minutes to crawl back up his garden to the house to call himself an ambulance, so he's made of stern stuff.

but I gave him a lift up there anyway, knowing full well that he would be voting for a different party to me.

[Halb]

beko1987 said:

Our polling station this year is right by my daughters school, so I took her with me this morning on the way, a few other parents did the same.

She got a brief explanation of voting, heavily redacted so I don't pass on my massive scepticism and can't be-arsed-with-politics mindset on to a 7 year old and she asked what all the pictures meant (party logo's). Told her quietly in-case we got kicked out (it was quiet luckily) then told her to point at a picture, and I crossed that box. She posted the vote into the box and we went to school.

The party that got the vote won't get in anyway at a local level, we're a strong blue seat, however this vote was not blue, so it won't change much, and I'm sure whatever party gets in I'll still earn the same wage, drive the same ZX and continue to survive on £70 a month for food and fuel, having to top up my income with tax dodging vacuum repair on the side. Meanwhile whatever part wins can spend the next 6 months trying to explain why they can't/won#t do whatever they've spent the last 6 months telling us will happen and the st show can roll around again!

But I didn't feel the want to just not go as I've had many years before, so that was nice.

pretty much