Protesters blocking various M25 Junctions

[Biggy Stardust]

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

The plane is going there & back anyway, as are the busses to/from the airport & the trains around India.

Based on that she is adding zero carbon footprint/oil use, etc to what was already scheduled therefore there is zero hypocrisy in her actions. You should be ashamed of yourself for not praising her actions.

[Langweilig]

I get up at five o'clock in't mornin' to work a 37 and a half hour week just for these NUMPTYS to waste.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/just-stop-oi...

[Pan Pan Pan]

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

Take away from the JSO morons everything that was provided by fossil fuels, and they would be standing naked in a field. So no clothes, no shoes, no ability to move anywhere, other than by walking (without shoes) no roads, buses, trains, cars, ships, planes. No heated and lit buildings to live and work in, no computers, Ipads. mobile phones. TVs, No hospitals, schools, shops, cinemas, foreign holidays, music festivals, No piped water supply, food and drink.
Only when a viable alternative, which can provide the power, food, and products, (Including renewable energy systems), currently ONLY made possible by using fossil fuels, has been discovered, and put into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population, Can the global population transit away from fossil fuel use.
To date NO SUCH viable alternative has yet even been discovered. let alone put into (Fossil fuel less) production, capable of meeting the needs of the global population.

[Randy Winkman]

Pan Pan Pan said:

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

Take away from the JSO morons everything that was provided by fossil fuels, and they would be standing naked in a field. So no clothes, no shoes, no ability to move anywhere, other than by walking (without shoes) no roads, buses, trains, cars, ships, planes. No heated and lit buildings to live and work in, no computers, Ipads. mobile phones. TVs, No hospitals, schools, shops, cinemas, foreign holidays, music festivals, No piped water supply, food and drink.
Only when a viable alternative, which can provide the power, food, and products, (Including renewable energy systems), currently ONLY made possible by using fossil fuels, has been discovered, and put into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population, Can the global population transit away from fossil fuel use.
To date NO SUCH viable alternative has yet even been discovered. let alone put into (Fossil fuel less) production, capable of meeting the needs of the global population.

But they would argue that we will never find the alternative without stopping new oil extraction.

[turbobloke]

Randy Winkman said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

Take away from the JSO morons everything that was provided by fossil fuels, and they would be standing naked in a field. So no clothes, no shoes, no ability to move anywhere, other than by walking (without shoes) no roads, buses, trains, cars, ships, planes. No heated and lit buildings to live and work in, no computers, Ipads. mobile phones. TVs, No hospitals, schools, shops, cinemas, foreign holidays, music festivals, No piped water supply, food and drink.
Only when a viable alternative, which can provide the power, food, and products, (Including renewable energy systems), currently ONLY made possible by using fossil fuels, has been discovered, and put into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population, Can the global population transit away from fossil fuel use.
To date NO SUCH viable alternative has yet even been discovered. let alone put into (Fossil fuel less) production, capable of meeting the needs of the global population.

But they would argue that we will never find the alternative without stopping new oil extraction.

If so they're fools, and fools with an extremist agenda. First find the alternatives. Fertilizer from oil products keeps millions fed and alive worldwide.

Did I mention finding the alternatives first, even within the nonsensical world of JSO? Then there's the point that it's not about oil and emissions, it's about anti-capitalism as per words from the horse's mouth. Then there's the other point that there's no basis to their climate scaremongering anyway, as per the papers repeatedly cited which demonstrate this using empirical data as opposed to inadequate modelling.

You repeatedly forget these key points and blunder on as if blissfully unaware - which is curious, possibly you become distracted by some anti-capitalist squirrel when such things have been documented (n times in this thread, and in other threads).

[Pan Pan Pan]

Randy Winkman said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

Take away from the JSO morons everything that was provided by fossil fuels, and they would be standing naked in a field. So no clothes, no shoes, no ability to move anywhere, other than by walking (without shoes) no roads, buses, trains, cars, ships, planes. No heated and lit buildings to live and work in, no computers, Ipads. mobile phones. TVs, No hospitals, schools, shops, cinemas, foreign holidays, music festivals, No piped water supply, food and drink.
Only when a viable alternative, which can provide the power, food, and products, (Including renewable energy systems), currently ONLY made possible by using fossil fuels, has been discovered, and put into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population, Can the global population transit away from fossil fuel use.
To date NO SUCH viable alternative has yet even been discovered. let alone put into (Fossil fuel less) production, capable of meeting the needs of the global population.

But they would argue that we will never find the alternative without stopping new oil extraction.

Wrong. Everyone knows that fossil fuels. like lithium for batteries, is a finite resource.
The availability of fossil fuels now, gives the planet time to look for, and discover a viable alternative. and get it into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population.
What JSO are proposing, is to stop oil, BEFORE, or regardless of whether or not a viable alternative has been discovered.
This can only mean the deaths of billions across the planet, mainly from starvation, but also from freezing to death in winter (this however could be what they are actually aiming for)
JSO are like someone edging out onto a high up tree branch, trying to reach a better one, but who want the tree branch cut (on the tree side of the branch) before the better branch has even been spotted, let alone grasped. They are just blind deliberately ignorant fools, who cannot see beyond the end of their noses.

[turbobloke]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Randy Winkman said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

baldy1926 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/03/just-s...

Another lot in court.
One is having a really long walk as she complained that she couldn't make the next court date.
As she is going to india, i wonder how she intends to get there

Take away from the JSO morons everything that was provided by fossil fuels, and they would be standing naked in a field. So no clothes, no shoes, no ability to move anywhere, other than by walking (without shoes) no roads, buses, trains, cars, ships, planes. No heated and lit buildings to live and work in, no computers, Ipads. mobile phones. TVs, No hospitals, schools, shops, cinemas, foreign holidays, music festivals, No piped water supply, food and drink.
Only when a viable alternative, which can provide the power, food, and products, (Including renewable energy systems), currently ONLY made possible by using fossil fuels, has been discovered, and put into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population, Can the global population transit away from fossil fuel use.
To date NO SUCH viable alternative has yet even been discovered. let alone put into (Fossil fuel less) production, capable of meeting the needs of the global population.

But they would argue that we will never find the alternative without stopping new oil extraction.

Wrong. Everyone knows that fossil fuels. like lithium for batteries, is a finite resource.
The availability of fossil fuels now, gives the planet time to look for, and discover a viable alternative. and get it into production, sufficient to meet the needs of the global population.
What JSO are proposing, is to stop oil, BEFORE, or regardless of whether or not a viable alternative has been discovered.
This can only mean the deaths of billions across the planet, mainly from starvation, but also from freezing to death in winter (this however could be what they are actually aiming for)
JSO are like someone edging out onto a high up tree branch, trying to reach a better one, but who want the tree branch cut (on the tree side of the branch) before the better branch has even been spotted, let alone grasped. They are just blind deliberately ignorant fools, who cannot see beyond the end of their noses.

Nor beyond the end of capitalism. This isn't surprising as it's not going anywhere.

[Digga]

The hypocrisy is rank.

They avail themselves of the fruits of modern capitalism and even fossil fuels, when they choose, but want to stop others doing so, and with impunity. iPhones, cars, planes, synthetic fabrics, are all fine for them to use, but they want to stop other’s at whim.

IMHO theft is abhorrent and there is nothing more irreplaceable than lost time.

[FiF]

I still want to see them made to pay for cleanup and cost of their actions when convicted. For example the ones who interrupted Glyndebourn, 80k just in ticket refunds. Out of their pockets, take it. No doubt can't pay , won't pay.

[Yertis]

turbobloke said:

Nor beyond the end of capitalism. This isn't surprising as it's not going anywhere.

Do you mean "not going anywhere" as in finished, or with us for good?

[turbobloke]

Yertis said:

turbobloke said:

Nor beyond the end of capitalism. This isn't surprising as it's not going anywhere.

Do you mean "not going anywhere" as in finished, or with us for good?

Yes

[Langweilig]

The "Climate Activists" are getting desperate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-just-s...

[rscott]

Oliver Hardy said:

A# little off topic but I probably get told off if I start a new topic and the mods will point me to a thread I can't find and close it so...

This is interesting

Colchester Council passing a motion for a 20mph speed limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeVvVDFBpk

She's a nutter. She's spouting the usual nonsense some anti-EV posters come up with - cobalt mining, etc.

[Digga]

rscott said:

Oliver Hardy said:

A# little off topic but I probably get told off if I start a new topic and the mods will point me to a thread I can't find and close it so...

This is interesting

Colchester Council passing a motion for a 20mph speed limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeVvVDFBpk

She's a nutter. She's spouting the usual nonsense some anti-EV posters come up with - cobalt mining, etc.

This phenomenon is like another facet of the contemporary Karenism.

[eldar]

Langweilig said:

The "Climate Activists" are getting desperate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-just-s...

It's OK, it's an oil painting

[turbobloke]

eldar said:

Langweilig said:

The "Climate Activists" are getting desperate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-just-s...

It's OK, it's an oil painting

[Oliver Hardy]

rscott said:

Oliver Hardy said:

A# little off topic but I probably get told off if I start a new topic and the mods will point me to a thread I can't find and close it so...

This is interesting

Colchester Council passing a motion for a 20mph speed limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeVvVDFBpk

She's a nutter. She's spouting the usual nonsense some anti-EV posters come up with - cobalt mining, etc.

I think she raises some good points, burt even if she is a nutter, she is highlighting another council rubber stamping yet more restrictions against cars.

[turbobloke]

Oliver Hardy said:

rscott said:

Oliver Hardy said:

A# little off topic but I probably get told off if I start a new topic and the mods will point me to a thread I can't find and close it so...

This is interesting

Colchester Council passing a motion for a 20mph speed limit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeVvVDFBpk

She's a nutter. She's spouting the usual nonsense some anti-EV posters come up with - cobalt mining, etc.

I think she raises some good points, burt even if she is a nutter, she is highlighting another council rubber stamping yet more restrictions against cars.

Also the cobalt and other EV related hazards / pollution aren't nonsense - they shake the faith of those who ignore evidence in favour of ideology, and faith responds that way when challenged by data as we know already. The fun of living in TAOS on energy and transport continues.

[Mammasaid]

Hmmm great going JSO

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/08/parame...

[swisstoni]

Mammasaid said:

Hmmm great going JSO

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/08/parame...

Clearly not going for the hearts and minds of citizens.