45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

[Eddie Strohacker]

grumbledoak said:

It just looks like they are throwing everything they can think of at him, pretty much indiscriminately. Which suggests, if you are minded to think, that they never had anything solid to throw.

I'm not claiming to know the truth or predict the outcome.

A journey of a thousand miles etc. etc.

Curious that the Trumpets seem to live entirely & only in the moment when it comes to the Donald yet presumably are also the sort of people to be found planning very diligently for the future.

[hairykrishna]

I'm not sure that 'throwing things indiscriminately' is the right way to characterise it. Seems to me that if you're got the former head of the FBI testifying that, in his opinion, Trump asked him to stop an investigation you probably want to investigate that. All of the other investigations related to the Russia stuff are still ongoing in parallel.

[Eric Mc]

BIANCO said:

is more worried to me than a slightly unhinged president. .

I'd argue with the use of the word "slightly".

[roachcoach]

BIANCO said:

roachcoach said:

Damn those pesky "bad losers" for making the poor administration members lie left, right and centre about its dealings with Russia eh? It's not their fault, the big bad MSM and dems made them do it you see!

Edited by roachcoach on Thursday 15th June 08:29

I am in doubt that if Hillery had won we would have been going though a similar thing with her regarding the emails, the difference is it wouldn't have been sensationalized on the front page of all the papers. They would have tried to defend her and ridicule the people trying to fight her. It was hidden in right at the back of the papers when the story originally broke.

I am no massive fan of trump but the bias and the way they have and are behaving is more worried to me than a slightly unhinged president. People can vote him out in a few years it's much harder to change the MSM. It scary how much say a small minority? have who in general are out of touch with the normal person on the street.

Probably not, but she was less of a spectacle. Now I don't say that out of a feeling about Trump one way or the other, but the fact he was so different, so vocal and so controversial in his campaign I can understand a greater degree of media attention on him. I think even if he'd been acclaimed as amazing by all and sundry there would have been tremendous press attention in the early days.

Problems is that whilst there are definitely outlets with an axe to grind (that is absolutely certain) the administrations constant chaos is providing a cornucopia of things to bad things to write about.

Sure, a lot of the things being reported are indeed petty, bordering on comical but the administration is certainly not helping itself in any way, shape or form.

The image the administration itself is portraying is one of no small amount of chaos and constant communication breakdowns - only they can address that and honestly, they should. It is quite possible to be "different" to politicians and still present a well organised, driven exterior image.

I've said before but what boggles my mind is that they could easily, indeed trivially, skewer the MSM in absolutely incontrovertible terms but they can't seem to stop tripping over their own feet.

[Eric Mc]

Trump thrives on acclamation and attention. He wants it and, psychologically, he needs it.

Therefore, he MUST keep drawing attention to himself so he must keep tweeting and making controversial comments - often at the expense of his own team who are struggling mightilly to keep the administration on an even keel. He will even casually make liars out of them. Perhaps he even enjoys doing that. The alternative is that he is too stupid to realise what he is doing.

He keeps metaphorically rocking the boat.

Trump, in the end, will bring himself down - because he just can't stop himself.

[Mr GrimNasty]

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.
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Is this a political opinion or a gastroenterology observation?

[SilverSixer]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Coz Trump hasn't been doing that for the best part of the last 10 years himself, oh no. No birther crap or anything.

[Zod]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Just saying how you want things to turn out doesn't usually make them turn out that way.

[Countdown]

Those lefty-liberal Aussies taking the mickey out of the Leader of the Free World

[Shakermaker]

Countdown said:

Those lefty-liberal Aussies taking the mickey out of the Leader of the Free World

You've linked to the Trump one, not the Merkel one?

[Efbe]

BIANCO said:

La Liga said:

BIANCO said:

p1stonhead said:

BIANCO said:

p1stonhead said:

WTF are NBC on giving this lunatic airtime.

Oh yes he's on Trumps approved press list!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40259209

Why is he called a conspiracy theorist but every other MSM journalists that seem to be obsessed with the Russian Conspiracy theory are never labeled as so?

Because the Russian links appear to have some substance. The head of the FBI has said so. Trump fired Flynn because of it. Etc etc.

Saying Sandy Hook didn't happen is another level of mental and disgusting.

OK well come back when actual evidence is available until then its a conspiracy theory.

It's clearly not one in the typical use of the phrase. There's are multiple formal investigations into the matter.

As opposed to people claiming dead children are fake, which doesn't have multiple formal investigations.

There have been many formal invitations? into UFOs doesn't make them real.
As for Alex i never said or tried to argue that he wasn't a conspiracy theorist just asked why everyone else wasn't.

From what I am seeing the investigation is coming up with nothing and falling apart. So now they are going for obstruction of justice.

Some bad losers desperate to get him out start a Russian conspiracy theory. They start by what now looks to be a unfounded inquiry. Trump goes what's all this rubbish about and says let's not even bother is a joke, and they use that as obstruction of justice.

The democrats and MSM really are a joke, I hope the next democrat president is cleaner than clean beacuse they should be scrutinized at the same level as Trump. But we all know they won't be. If Hillery had won and there had been allegations of outside help, the headlines would have been, "Hillery uses brilliant statesmanship to secure support from for foreign friends and allies".

have there been multiple investigations of UFOs? genuine question.

[Mr GrimNasty]

Zod said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Just saying how you want things to turn out doesn't usually make them turn out that way.

Even the BBC admits it's going nowhere, but that's not what matters, again as even the BBC admits, all the time his enemies are coming up with pretexts for investigations, and the deliberately convoluted never-ending investigations are ongoing, Trump is being discredited and losing support.

[Mr GrimNasty]

SilverSixer said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Coz Trump hasn't been doing that for the best part of the last 10 years himself, oh no. No birther crap or anything.

Well, I've no idea where Obama was born.

But there are only 2 options and no conspiracy theory required.

(1) Obama lied to exploit the poor immigrant made good tag, pretending he was Kenyan born whilst it suited him, and only changed his biog to Hawaii weeks before declaring.

(2) Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Either way it doesn't say anything good about Obama's character.

Denigrating it to the level of a nutjob conspiracy theory with a derisory 'birther' tag is just establishment dissent suppression 101.

[Mr GrimNasty]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.
.

Is this a political opinion or a gastroenterology observation?

Too many haters too seriously up their own butts to even notice - Trumps so appalling - we'll have no humour here.

[SilverSixer]

Mr GrimNasty said:

SilverSixer said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Coz Trump hasn't been doing that for the best part of the last 10 years himself, oh no. No birther crap or anything.

Well, I've no idea where Obama was born.

But there are only 2 options and no conspiracy theory required.

(1) Obama lied to exploit the poor immigrant made good tag, pretending he was Kenyan born whilst it suited him, and only changed his biog to Hawaii weeks before declaring.

(2) Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Either way it doesn't say anything good about Obama's character.

Denigrating it to the level of a nutjob conspiracy theory with a derisory 'birther' tag is just establishment dissent suppression 101.

If your premise (1) is correct, then that just makes him a politician. In comparison to the things Trump has said and done, it's insignificant.

Your premise (2) has been fully debunked, you really need to let it go. You lost, get over it.

Are you genuinely trying to assert that Trump has not engaged in 'frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making'?

[Countdown]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Well, I've no idea where Obama was born.

But there are only 2 options and no conspiracy theory required.

(1) Obama lied to exploit the poor immigrant made good tag, pretending he was Kenyan born whilst it suited him, and only changed his biog to Hawaii weeks before declaring.

(2) Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Either way it doesn't say anything good about Obama's character.

Denigrating it to the level of a nutjob conspiracy theory with a derisory 'birther' tag is just establishment dissent suppression 101.

it doesn't say much about the character of people who still keep spouting this rubbish.

He's provided all the necessary proof. But there are a number of wuckfits who seem to have a desperate, pathetic, need to believe that he wasn't entitled to be POTUS. many of them still believe he's muslim. And so they keep on repeating half truths and complete bullocks.

I suppose it's doubly difficult given that his presidency makes the current WH incumbent look like such a gibbering buffoon.

[Sylvaforever]

Eric Mc said:

Trump thrives on acclamation and attention. He wants it and, psychologically, he needs it.

Therefore, he MUST keep drawing attention to himself so he must keep tweeting and making controversial comments - often at the expense of his own team who are struggling mightilly to keep the administration on an even keel. He will even casually make liars out of them. Perhaps he even enjoys doing that. The alternative is that he is too stupid to realise what he is doing.

He keeps metaphorically rocking the boat.

Trump, in the end, will bring himself down - because he just can't stop himself.

Do you know the names of the three DNC staffers who were murdered after the Clinton's E mail scandle broke Eric?

[roachcoach]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Zod said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Anyone involved in probing Trump's obstruction is going to get very messy, but they won't find anything solid.

It's all rather sad watching the USA media/political/state anti-Trumpers descending into frenzied paranoia and politically motivated mischief making.

Just saying how you want things to turn out doesn't usually make them turn out that way.

Even the BBC admits it's going nowhere, but that's not what matters, again as even the BBC admits, all the time his enemies are coming up with pretexts for investigations, and the deliberately convoluted never-ending investigations are ongoing, Trump is being discredited and losing support.

Never ending investigations you say?

[Eric Mc]

Sylvaforever said:

Do you know the names of the three DNC staffers who were murdered after the Clinton's E mail scandle broke Eric?

You might have to explain to me what relevance that has to what I said.