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Jimbeaux said:

I am well aware of the Persian / Arab mutual hatred. However, you need to bone up on recent Iranian sponsorship of terrorism. It's called current events.

Sponsorship of terrorism? Is that providing arms/aid to people who use it to bomb innocent people? Good thing the US Has never done that eh Jimbo? That would be hypocrisy.....

And with regards to "slapping allies in the face", Reagan's probably doing 9000rpm in his grave at the Trump's rectum-sucking of Putin.

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I can't quite understand why Isreal is getting it's knickers in a twist. It's not like they abide by UN resolutions anyway, so it's just another one that says what they are doing is illegal according to International law. Calling ambassadors in and punishing the countries that voted for this sounds like revenge rather than any type of diplomacy. Why not put their case forward about why they think the land is theirs and let the world just digest that information? It's not like anyone will stop them building the settlements.

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Jimbeaux said:

I am well aware of the Persian / Arab mutual hatred. However, you need to bone up on recent Iranian sponsorship of terrorism. It's called current events. Admittedly, "overlords" is misleading; however, terrorist organizations such as Hamas, is well in league with them. The mutual desire for jihad will often overcome historical conflicts, if against the right enemy.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:03

Like supporting AQ and its affiliates in Syria? You genuinely don't see the hypocrisy do you? And then you wonder why it tends to bite you in the arse.....

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Gandahar said:

Jimbeaux said:

JawKnee said:

loafer123 said:

I feel that we are seeing a new dose of realism in politics, hence I started the "Backlash" thread yesterday.

Two examples today are;

Israel finding out that they cannot depend upon the support of the US if they take it for granted and don't listen to the moral objections of their friends,

This is one "backlash" I can support but too little too late from Obama. Unfortunately, it won't last long as Trump is now going to punish the UN for daring to call out the illegal settlements. I can't see the US-Israel relationship changing an awful lot while Trump is in charge.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.breitbart.com/big...

Why are they illegal ? That is land they won in war they did not start. Lessons for the Arab nations; don't attack, lose, then want your land back. What Obama just did was a cowardly betrayal. He has been kissing the ass of nations where groups like Hamas hold sway while slapping the face of our only friend in the ME and the only freely elected democracy. Backstabbing coward.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 24th December 03:06

"Why are they illegal ? That is land they won in war they did not start"

So you a cheerleader then for the USSR partitioning Eastern Europe after world war 2 then?

Another silly post.

Can we get your Hispanic wife on on here please who might post some sense ?

So, no denial about attacking, losing, then wanting your land back like nothing happened? Just cheap jokes about one's spouse. Thought not.

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Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

I am well aware of the Persian / Arab mutual hatred. However, you need to bone up on recent Iranian sponsorship of terrorism. It's called current events.

Sponsorship of terrorism? Is that providing arms/aid to people who use it to bomb innocent people? Good thing the US Has never done that eh Jimbo? That would be hypocrisy.....

And with regards to "slapping allies in the face", Reagan's probably doing 9000rpm in his grave at the Trump's rectum-sucking of Putin.

No hypocrisy here. Hamas is a full fledged terror organization. The PLO, a government that pays pensions for those who kill Israelis. Go pedal your crap elsewhere.

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Jimbeaux said:

This despite the fact that Iranians are primarily Shi'a and Palestinians Sunni.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:03

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:07

It may be helpful if you also Google the relationship between Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, and the Muslim Brotherhood. As well as the other proxy conflicts taking place between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

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Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

I am well aware of the Persian / Arab mutual hatred. However, you need to bone up on recent Iranian sponsorship of terrorism. It's called current events. Admittedly, "overlords" is misleading; however, terrorist organizations such as Hamas, is well in league with them. The mutual desire for jihad will often overcome historical conflicts, if against the right enemy.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:03

Like supporting AQ and its affiliates in Syria? You genuinely don't see the hypocrisy do you? And then you wonder why it tends to bite you in the arse.....

That was stupid. The policy of Obama and SOS Crooked Hillary.

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Jimbeaux said:

No hypocrisy here. Hamas is a full fledged terror organization. The PLO, a government that pays pensions for those who kill Israelis. Go pedal your crap elsewhere.

I see plenty. However for a supposed "Consultant" to Homeland Security your knowledge of geopolitics, especially of the Middle East is pathetic. Perhaps if people like you knew more then Israel wouldn't be able to manipulate the US like it has for so long.

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Jimbeaux said:

That was stupid. The policy of Obama and SOS Crooked Hillary.

Whereas Trump bending over for Putin, and encouraging nuclear proliferation is so sensible......

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Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

This despite the fact that Iranians are primarily Shi'a and Palestinians Sunni.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:03

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:07

It may be helpful if you also Google the relationship between Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, and the Muslim Brotherhood. As well as the other proxy conflicts taking place between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Well aware of Wahabism conflicting the others you mention. I am all for dropping Saudi as allies as well. The whole damn lot of them only respect power; perhaps they need to experience some. We don't need their oil, I say pull out altogether relationship-wise and let them have at one another. Let that entire region of inbreds destroy one another over the fact that Mo' had a crappy succession plan. Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 25th December 23:22

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Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

No hypocrisy here. Hamas is a full fledged terror organization. The PLO, a government that pays pensions for those who kill Israelis. Go pedal your crap elsewhere.

I see plenty. However for a supposed "Consultant" to Homeland Security your knowledge of geopolitics, especially of the Middle East is pathetic. Perhaps if people like you knew more then Israel wouldn't be able to manipulate the US like it has for so long.

I submit that my knowledge is fine and that your subjugation to the mental puppetry of the inbred extremists is complete.

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Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

That was stupid. The policy of Obama and SOS Crooked Hillary.

Whereas Trump bending over for Putin, and encouraging nuclear proliferation is so sensible......

I was not speaking of that. When he is POTUS, then we can critique his performance.

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Jimbeaux said:

I was not speaking of that. When he is POTUS, then we can critique his performance.

I have a question for you - why have you not raised the issue of settlements in any of your prior posts? Your main argument appears to be that the middle east is full of terrorists that want to attack Israel for no reason.

Do you really think people would risk their lives because they just don't like a Jewish state - or could it be they are retaliating to losing their homes and loved ones - as a consequence of the Israeli settlement Policy?

Again, it would be really interesting to get your views on the Settlement Policy which has increased year on year since 1967 and whether you concede this has been one of the primary drivers for the formation of militant groups like Hamas.

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RaymondVanDerDon said:

Jimbeaux said:

I was not speaking of that. When he is POTUS, then we can critique his performance.

I have a question for you - why have you not raised the issue of settlements in any of your prior posts? Your main argument appears to be that the middle east is full of terrorists that want to attack Israel for no reason.

Do you really think people would risk their lives because they just don't like a Jewish state - or could it be they are retaliating to losing their homes and loved ones - as a consequence of the Israeli settlement Policy?

Again, it would be really interesting to get your views on the Settlement Policy which has increased year on year since 1967 and whether you concede this has been one of the primary drivers for the formation of militant groups like Hamas.

I invite you to read Hamas' covenant below. Pay particular attention to the second paragraph.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant

You will note that the only thing that will suffice in their view is the dissolution of Israel. The mere to and fro of a neighborhood being built is not even in the same ballpark.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Monday 26th December 00:41

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Thanks - but you've (both) disregarded my question on settlements.

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Countdown and other of his ilk will be along to propose that the "interpretation" of said documents are flawed. As if the world has deciphered Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs but can't quite master Levantine Arabic.

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RaymondVanDerDon said:

Thanks - but you've (both) disregarded my question on settlements.

When one decrees that another's total destruction is one's goal, is it not an irrelevant exercise for one to measure the displeasure caused by a new neighborhood filing??? Please.

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Jimbeaux said:

Countdown and other of his ilk will be along to propose that the "interpretation" of said documents are flawed. As if the world has deciphered Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs but can't quite master Levantine Arabic.

I'm guessing it was too much for you to read the 3rd paragraph then..... Still, well done on avoiding the question on Settlements again.

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Jimbeaux said:

When one decrees that another's total destruction is one's goal, is it not an irrelevant exercise for one to measure the displeasure caused by a new neighborhood filing??? Please.

Israeli Settlement Policy commenced in 1967. Hamas Covenant issued in 1988.

Please just give a straight answer on your view of settlements - there was a recent UN resolution on it so it seems pretty relevant to the rest of the world.

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Jimbeaux said:

When one decrees that another's total destruction is one's goal, is it not an irrelevant exercise for one to measure the displeasure caused by a new neighborhood filing??? Please.

That's a weak excuse and you know it. It's been a long while since the Palestinians recognised Israels right to exist. But the Israelis have shown they will use every single excuse in the book to carry on building settlements. The more they build the easier it will become to annexe the whole of the West Bank at some point, which is the stated aim of the Far Right Jewish Home Party (Extremists exist on both sides).

I'm sure there will come a time when Israel pretends that Settlements are necessary because some bloke in Finsbury Park hasn't accepted Isreal's inalienable right to exist.