Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.
Discussion
anonymous said:
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Did anyone actually think he was? I've not seen anything that suggests that, not from the media, public or general opinion. No one in here either by the sounds of it. Just because Elon said it, doesn't make it true. Anyone can't see it for what it was, an idiots retort.WestyCarl said:
Not defending Musk for the comments but he visited the comand center in Thai with experts from his companies (Boring company, space X) to offer any assistance.
Apparently his mini sub "worked" but was too big for this rescue, he left it with the Thai authorities in case it's need in the future.
That validates my comment, it was designed 1000s miles away from the actual situation and wasn't useful at all, the commander in charge said at the time, '' the mini submarine would not have been practical for the cave rescue.''Apparently his mini sub "worked" but was too big for this rescue, he left it with the Thai authorities in case it's need in the future.
Musk then retaliated in his usually childlike manner that the commander was “not the subject matter expert”, this the bloke at the scene, who ended up successfully recovering the boys.
Musk is a media w
e, he will focus on what gets him headlines, his submarine was impractical and he ended up tarnishing the reputation of a guy, who actually helped the mission.Coolbanana said:
Musk is typical of a lot of successful, entrepreneurial people in that he is extremely confident in his own abilities and sees his way as the correct way. He is a hard taskmaster and highly ambitious. He has already earned a place in History in terms of his positive achievements thus far - more than can be said of the vast majority of his critics who will fade to anonymity having never left much of a mark.
He polarises opinions of himself due to his actions and words, earning the negative ire of many. His character flaws are plain to see, no doubt. When you look through History at men and women who made an impact far greater than most, some were egotistical, self-centred and socially insecure individuals - often tyrants - but they aren't remembered for that, it is lost in time. Only their achievements remain and are recognised. Musk's legacy will be the same.
In this case Musk has used his self-belief in his personal ability and authority to firstly hit back at his sense of feeling insulted by Unsworth by hurling one back - albeit in a rather immature fashion, playground stuff really. It is testament to his character that instead of seeing an end to the case with a public apology and perhaps compensation, he sought to defend his own part in the public spat.
I'm not surprised by the outcome and reflects a mature approach. It was two adults insulting one another when it wasn't necessary from either of them - both behaved badly. Unsworth did not have to say what he did in the way he did. He was being condescending to someone who genuinely wanted to help - he could have dealt with it in a far more professional manner. He has no excuse. Similarly, Musk's response was uncalled for and was immature in nature, a nerve had certainly been hit on someone who regards himself as very capable. He had no excuse either.
It is hypocritical of some here to create insulting names for Musk etc on the topic of insults. They are engaging in exactly the same level of daftness that the two men involved in this pathetic case did.
Had the spat ended with the initial statements, i would agree with you, but it didn't, musk doubled down with the insults and went trawling for evidence to support his initial slur.He polarises opinions of himself due to his actions and words, earning the negative ire of many. His character flaws are plain to see, no doubt. When you look through History at men and women who made an impact far greater than most, some were egotistical, self-centred and socially insecure individuals - often tyrants - but they aren't remembered for that, it is lost in time. Only their achievements remain and are recognised. Musk's legacy will be the same.
In this case Musk has used his self-belief in his personal ability and authority to firstly hit back at his sense of feeling insulted by Unsworth by hurling one back - albeit in a rather immature fashion, playground stuff really. It is testament to his character that instead of seeing an end to the case with a public apology and perhaps compensation, he sought to defend his own part in the public spat.
I'm not surprised by the outcome and reflects a mature approach. It was two adults insulting one another when it wasn't necessary from either of them - both behaved badly. Unsworth did not have to say what he did in the way he did. He was being condescending to someone who genuinely wanted to help - he could have dealt with it in a far more professional manner. He has no excuse. Similarly, Musk's response was uncalled for and was immature in nature, a nerve had certainly been hit on someone who regards himself as very capable. He had no excuse either.
It is hypocritical of some here to create insulting names for Musk etc on the topic of insults. They are engaging in exactly the same level of daftness that the two men involved in this pathetic case did.
Pretty outrageous for someone with his resources to do that and illustrates what a clown he is.
Musk will go the way of a lot of these high profile characters, it wont end well.
While I can see that on the face of it finding someone guilty for name calling on twitter (no matter how foul) could open a huge container of worms for the foreseeable future, Elon Musk deserved a slap over this.
Extremely stupid stuff for him to be posting and the hiring of investigators etc is just plain wrong.
Extremely stupid stuff for him to be posting and the hiring of investigators etc is just plain wrong.
Don Roque said:
It is fair and right that Musk won. Unsworth started this shabby affair and tried to cash in on it for a ridiculous sum of money. I am old enough to remember when the internet wasn't full of snowflakes and you could argue all day long. Well, Unsworth lost an argument and tried to save his loss of face with this ridiculous lawsuit.
It is a victory for free speech and also a victory against thin-skinned snowflakes. Unsworth dragged the whole cave rescue effort through the mud by trying to make the whole thing about him, but it went badly wrong after Musk responded to the cheap jibes Unsworth made about him. Sadly, he didn't just leave it there. I notice as well that it was revealed during the court case that Unsworth had briefly engaged an agent to try and cash in on his part in the cave rescue but that few offers for projects had come through. It seems money was a motivating factor for him.
Troll is nowadays overused as an insult to people who have a different opinion on the matter on the internet, but having read this piece I do wonder if this is a satirical troll at it''s finest or whether you actually believe it.It is a victory for free speech and also a victory against thin-skinned snowflakes. Unsworth dragged the whole cave rescue effort through the mud by trying to make the whole thing about him, but it went badly wrong after Musk responded to the cheap jibes Unsworth made about him. Sadly, he didn't just leave it there. I notice as well that it was revealed during the court case that Unsworth had briefly engaged an agent to try and cash in on his part in the cave rescue but that few offers for projects had come through. It seems money was a motivating factor for him.
A cave diver, not the most sofa and keyboard hobby ever, got called
1. A pedo.
2. Child molester.
And you say he is a snowflake ....
"It is a victory for free speech "
So why did Elon delete that tweet then?
Are you a Tesla Fanbot by any chance?
Anyhow, getting back to Spitting Image, who were always very on the ball with current affairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk
Tesla cars apparently run on gravy
anonymous said:
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Don't overlook the fact Unsworth had very probably turned down a sensible cash offer from Musk and decided to sue for $190 million instead. That sounds greedy and will have convinced Musk to fight it out.Unsworth's lawyers, probably on a "no win, no fee" basis, are the ones who are likely to have lost out big-time, presumably paying Musk's hefty costs as well as their own.
rockin said:
Don't overlook the fact Unsworth had very probably turned down a sensible cash offer from Musk and decided to sue for $190 million instead. That sounds greedy and will have convinced Musk to fight it out.
Yet he called him a child rapist, after issuing an apology, which this court had decided the intial pedo guy comment wasn't directed at him. No offer has ever been published so to suggest it was is unfounded. If someone called you a pedo and child rapist would it be 'greedy' to sue, when no public offer was ever made?For me Musk has come across as a pretty vile character, with an overly sensitive personalty who takes zero responiblity for this actions, and has no honour to retify his wrongs. Yet he is the captain of a billion pound company and shaping the future for all, i for one would never associate buy anything associated with him.
Thesprucegoose said:
WestyCarl said:
Not defending Musk for the comments but he visited the comand center in Thai with experts from his companies (Boring company, space X) to offer any assistance.
Apparently his mini sub "worked" but was too big for this rescue, he left it with the Thai authorities in case it's need in the future.
That validates my comment, it was designed 1000s miles away from the actual situation and wasn't useful at all, the commander in charge said at the time, '' the mini submarine would not have been practical for the cave rescue.''Apparently his mini sub "worked" but was too big for this rescue, he left it with the Thai authorities in case it's need in the future.
WestyCarl said:
What? validates your statment Musk tried to help from 000's miles away when he was at the cave comand center with his mining experts.
he designed the submarine thousands of miles away, it wasn'tpractical, he turned up at the command centre and was told by the bloke in charge it wasn't practical , most likely as it was designed thousands of miles away, it is not hard to understand really.Tankrizzo said:
RobDickinson said:
Aha the butt hurt in here lol
You sound like a child.jimPH said:
This thread = Tesla haters Vs Tesla fan boi's
I hardly think so. This discussion has nothing to do with Tesla.I like Tesla cars. I may or may not buy one in future, who knows.
But Musk has come across as disgusting, childish and petulant in all this, and I think he looks really bad now.
Lord Marylebone said:
jimPH said:
This thread = Tesla haters Vs Tesla fan boi's
I hardly think so. This discussion has nothing to do with Tesla.I like Tesla cars. I may or may not buy one in future, who knows.
But Musk has come across as disgusting, childish and petulant in all this, and I think he looks really bad now.
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