Londonderry car bomb

[Colonel D]

sas62 said:

Considering you're saying this is nothing to do with Brexit you've mentioned Brexit a hell of a lot in those 3 paragraphs.

Would those idiotic statments have been said if there was a plan in place on how to deal with the north? Would there be any problems with trade if there was a plan in place? It's not the leaving the EU that's caused the problems, it's the idiots carrying it out. No plan in place to deal with what everyone knows is a volatile place, in fact no plan at all for any of the UK. It's to do with the morons representing the UK, no idea what they're doing, no idea how to solve it, but know how to get a reaction. Dangerous combination when the north is still trying to get to some sort of normal life.

The people in the north are in the same boat with knowing nothing, both sides are saying no to a border, a step forward with them agreeing on something. Even though no one wants a border it's still going to followed closely by the people, some of those in IRA, then a moronic comment on let the killing start again, or put them back in a famine. What do you think the retards in the IRA will do?

[Colonel D]

amusingduck said:

In no way? 44.2% of NI voted to leave!

No not their fault, they voted as they wanted, 55.8% still said no, usually when you vote you'd think there was plans made to carry it all out. I doubt anyone there was thinking it would be a vote for peace or back to the troubles.

[sas62]

Colonel D said:

Would those idiotic statments have been said if there was a plan in place on how to deal with the north? Would there be any problems with trade if there was a plan in place? It's not the leaving the EU that's caused the problems, it's the idiots carrying it out. No plan in place to deal with what everyone knows is a volatile place, in fact no plan at all for any of the UK. It's to do with the morons representing the UK, no idea what they're doing, no idea how to solve it, but know how to get a reaction. Dangerous combination when the north is still trying to get to some sort of normal life.

The people in the north are in the same boat with knowing nothing, both sides are saying no to a border, a step forward with them agreeing on something. Even though no one wants a border it's still going to followed closely by the people, some of those in IRA, then a moronic comment on let the killing start again, or put them back in a famine. What do you think the retards in the IRA will do?

Those kind of comments have been made by certain sections of society all the way back to the 70s. They have nothing to do with Brexit. I think you're letting your hatred of Brexit confuse things here.

I'm not letting a couple of killers off the hook by allowing them to justify their actions as due to anything but their own bloodlust.

[Colonel D]

sas62 said:

Those kind of comments have been made by certain sections of society all the way back to the 70s. They have nothing to do with Brexit. I think you're letting your hatred of Brexit confuse things here.

I'm not letting a couple of killers off the hook by allowing them to justify their actions as due to anything but their own bloodlust.

Hatred of brexit? I don't hate it at all, in fact I hope it works out well for the UK, leaving the EU was a huge decision, and there's no reason to hate it. The part everyone hates, including you in the UK, is not knowing what's going to happen. Your elected officials have failed you is all, forgotten that NI is still mess because there's been a few years of peace. Those same people mocking the north or the famine... It's like poking a sleeping bear and get surprised when it bites your arm off.

[anonymous-user]

Colonel D said:

sas62 said:

Those kind of comments have been made by certain sections of society all the way back to the 70s. They have nothing to do with Brexit. I think you're letting your hatred of Brexit confuse things here.

I'm not letting a couple of killers off the hook by allowing them to justify their actions as due to anything but their own bloodlust.

Hatred of brexit? I don't hate it at all, in fact I hope it works out well for the UK, leaving the EU was a huge decision, and there's no reason to hate it. The part everyone hates, including you in the UK, is not knowing what's going to happen. Your elected officials have failed you is all, forgotten that NI is still mess because there's been a few years of peace. Those same people mocking the north or the famine... It's like poking a sleeping bear and get surprised when it bites your arm off.

To be honest, most of the time this particular bear bites its own arm off........

[sas62]

Colonel D said:

sas62 said:

Those kind of comments have been made by certain sections of society all the way back to the 70s. They have nothing to do with Brexit. I think you're letting your hatred of Brexit confuse things here.

I'm not letting a couple of killers off the hook by allowing them to justify their actions as due to anything but their own bloodlust.

Hatred of brexit? I don't hate it at all, in fact I hope it works out well for the UK, leaving the EU was a huge decision, and there's no reason to hate it. The part everyone hates, including you in the UK, is not knowing what's going to happen. Your elected officials have failed you is all, forgotten that NI is still mess because there's been a few years of peace. Those same people mocking the north or the famine... It's like poking a sleeping bear and get surprised when it bites your arm off.

if you're looking for blame can I suggest you ask why Ireland allow the New Ira and Saoradh to march through Dublin within two days of the Derry killing instead of trying to blame some internet trolls in the UK.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/saoradh...

[Colonel D]

sas62 said:

if you're looking for blame can I suggest you ask why Ireland allow the New Ira and Saoradh to march through Dublin within two days of the Derry killing instead of trying to blame some internet trolls in the UK.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/saoradh...

At a guess it's easier to police them than to have a riot. Did you happen to read that article? A few hundred turned up, showing how little popularity they have here. What was the general reaction of the locals? Disgusted by it. Was was the tone of the article? Disgusted also, again showing how popular the IRA is here. The IRA for the past few years hasn't been anything other than a drug ring, used in name only, but it's a name that will always be around due to our history.

[anonymous-user]

Time for another Holy Cross type display of goodwill and togetherness from such a reasonable and misunderstood people. Or something.

Or for them to put a bomb in a bin because someone called it Londonderry, and the L word deserves violence and death treats.

(I've had a Londonderry man threaten to shoot/kill me for calling it Londonderry rather than City of Derry. He was arrested for it, the tt did it right in front of a gun-toting copper in a London airport, the feckin' eejut.)

[sas62]

Colonel D said:

At a guess it's easier to police them than to have a riot. Did you happen to read that article? A few hundred turned up, showing how little popularity they have here. What was the general reaction of the locals? Disgusted by it. Was was the tone of the article? Disgusted also, again showing how popular the IRA is here. The IRA for the past few years hasn't been anything other than a drug ring, used in name only, but it's a name that will always be around due to our history.

Of course I read it. I don't link to stuff I haven't read.

This organisation claimed responsibility for killing the journalist. Two days later 400 of them march unopposed down the main street in Dublin dressed in paramilitary outfits.

As to what was the general reaction to it? Well pretty non-plussed judging by the photographs. Sure there was some twitter outrage but like I say they were unopposed. No-one got off their backsides to counter protest or object. The IRA does not need to be popular to prosper it just needs people to ignore it and turn a blind eye - and that is what happened.

I suspect if it had been tried in Derry they'd have been run off the streets.

[Colonel D]

sas62 said:

Of course I read it. I don't link to stuff I haven't read.

This organisation claimed responsibility for killing the journalist. Two days later 400 of them march unopposed down the main street in Dublin dressed in paramilitary outfits.

As to what was the general reaction to it? Well pretty non-plussed judging by the photographs. Sure there was some twitter outrage but like I say they were unopposed. No-one got off their backsides to counter protest or object. The IRA does not need to be popular to prosper it just needs people to ignore it and turn a blind eye - and that is what happened.

I suspect if it had been tried in Derry they'd have been run off the streets.

Tell you what, you and I will go to Tyrone, UVF/UDF are the same as the IRA, all but dead. While we're there we'll sing Republican songs, and shout Brits out. Lets see how long our kneecaps last. The majority will just show disgust while a few clown act in a horrible way. It's not just one group there and that's why there's conflict.

As for letting them march, sometimes tolerance is better than repression.The odds of an Irish person trying to tell that to a British person tolerate their stupid desire to march, condemn them when they do horrible acts of violence.

What happens when you stop a narrow minder, small minority? You give them grounds to gain sympathy "our government no longer cares about our country" "we do it for the people" bullst like that. That gains them sympathy by a few more idiots and ultimately the narrow minded minority starts to grow. The best thing was to allow them to do it, it shows how little they mean anymore. It's shows solidarity with the majority who no longer support the ideas of the IRA, and that does more harm to them than adding fuel to their fire.

You seem dead set against the IRA (rightly so) but you need to look at why there's still conflict there, and will remain that way for a long time, whether the north be part of Ireland or the UK. It's not clear cut on how to stop the violence and get rid of the extremists on both sides, especially with the IRA so heavily ingrained in our history. So what happens now is you teach the younger generation of what the IRA/IRB did for Ireland, and how the modern IRA have nothing to do with a cause of a united Ireland and are nothing but scum. As is being done, and with so many disgusted by a march, and their recent acts, it shows it's working.

[Colonel D]

You should also take a look at the number of Orange Order marches too. Still going strong, still promoting old ideas, still trying to gain support. Largely tolerated, supported by a larger number than the recent IRA march.

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For many this single event marked a watershed. The case, they said, was the tip of the iceberg, evidence of routine intimidation of Catholics when protestant loyal orders march though the city.

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Dissidents accused of stoking Derry riot for Reggie Yates documentary.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/21/ne...