Hacking scandal just keeps giving

[Derek Smith]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/nov/01/p...

Cutting off the excuses and exposing the lies.

[0a]

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

[Marf]

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

You struggle to think? There there, it's ok, we can't all be Einstein.

[scenario8]

It remains a big story for lots of people in Law, Politics, the Media, Business and the wider general public. It just happens it isn't in the news much at the moment as we await ongoing investigations and likely prosecutions.

[0a]

Marf said:

You struggle to think? There there, it's ok, we can't all be Einstein.

Einstein could have read what I posted unlike you, try again Marf (it's above).

[Marf]

Oh snap! Burn.

[Jasandjules]

I welcome the continued exposure of the lies.

[Derek Smith]

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

Left wing? Fair enough, Cameron hardly comes out of this smelling of roses. He was guilty of poor judgement and sucking up to Murdoch but he doesn't come close to Blair's behaviour.

Murdoch and NGN are the ones who have suffered the most with their dirty washing, and it would appear lies, being exposed day after day.

Left wing? Very strange comment. The two papers pushing this have been the Guardian and the Telegraph, although all credit to the former. They've behaved magnificently.

We are living with the fallout from the various governments' collusion with NGN. We have the phenomenally expensive and pointless move to Salford and the massive interference with the day to day running of the BBC.

[5705]

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

Hark - the sound of wishful thinking.

[Mr Snap]

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

Referring to the NoW scandal - “ I have no doubt at all that Nick Davies is the greatest living British journalist ” — Peter Oborne, chief political commentator on the rival newspaper, The Daily Telegraph, speaking on Radio 4 July 9th 2011

Presumably it doesn't count because he said it on the BBC...?

Maybe if you stick your fingers in your ears and go la-la-la for the next year or so, it still won't be a story then, either...

[Marf]

As I'm a left wing journalist, I thought I should share this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/07/news-w...

"The News of the World hired a specialist private investigator to run covert surveillance on two of the lawyers representing phone-hacking victims as part of an operation to put pressure on them to stop their work."

[Eric Mc]

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

Just because you may have become bored with it does not mean that its real importance has diminished. Maybe that is the Murdoch strategy - drag the thing out so that the short attention span of the general public will allow it to fade away.

[0a]

Eric Mc said:

0a said:

I struggle to think of anyone I know apart from left-wing journalists that think this is a story anymore...

Just because you may have become bored with it does not mean that its real importance has diminished. Maybe that is the Murdoch strategy - drag the thing out so that the short attention span of the general public will allow it to fade away.

I didn't say I'd become bored with it, far from it, i'm interested in the issues it raises. I have plenty of journalist friends who tell me that they think that in light of the meltdown of Europe, for example, the public interest in this is now minimal.

I don't think this is an unreasonable thing to point out. I agree that this is likely to be the Murdoch strategy, but that's life. More relevant and interesting stories have made the hacking scandal look like yesterday's news. Sorry for pointing it out, but i stand by my point that I do not know anyone who really cares about this anymore (aside from myself!).

It's telling that even on the Guardian website, when they broke another hacking story the other day, the economic crisis was the most read story, followed by sport. Hacking was nowhere to be seen.

[0a]

Regarding the other comments on the thread, it's broadly left wing publications pushing this now as it harms the Murdoch empire in their opinion, which is fair enough in my opinion.

I don't argue that this was good journalism, needed investigating, or that the NOTW didn't deserve what it got. Nor do I assert that the Guardian and telegraph did a bad job.

However, you are out of touch if you think the average man on the street is bothered by this story any more - as per my original post.

Edited by 0a on Monday 7th November 16:33

[Fittster]

0a said:

However, you are out of touch if you think the average man on the street is bothered by this story any more - as per my original post.

What is the average man on the street is bothered by?

[0a]

Fittster said:

0a said:

However, you are out of touch if you think the average man on the street is bothered by this story any more - as per my original post.

What is the average man on the street is bothered by?

He was bothered back in July by this story but isn't now.

Do you not think this is a worthwhile observation? It means little is likely to change, something we should be concerned about in my opinion.

[scenario8]

Broadly speaking the written media wasn't all that interested in running stories about the immoral and illegal practices employed by the written media to source the stories printed by the media. Some sections of the popular press near on ignored the story. Others were very very late to the subject and gave it token column inches. I wonder why that could be? No doubt the owners would say it was solely because their readership wasn't interested. I can't think of any other reason a media organisation would be minded to leave well alone.

I'm happy for this story to be drip fed to me as more of the truth comes to light. Jeez, it's not as if every single morsel of information makes exclusive use of the first six pages of the Guardian and is the only story on the ten o'clock news is it? Or is the story only allowed to be considered news on the day of the conclusion of any potential trial?

[tubbystu]

Murdoch Jnr (and his team of lawyers this time ) goes back to the Palace of Westminster to give more evidence apologise for the pack of lies he told last time on Thursday, so that should bring it back to the front pages and forefront of public attention, unless Murdoch Snr gets Berlusconi to resign the same day perhaps.......

[Fort Jefferson]

Fittster said:

What is the average man on the street is bothered by?

He is bothered by the things his newspaper tells him to be bothered about.

[Eric Mc]

0a said:

However, you are out of touch if you think the average man on the street is bothered by this story any more - as per my original post.

Edited by 0a on Monday 7th November 16:33

My interest in the efforts of those who are bringing the underhand and illegal operations of the Murdoch press into the public domain is not linked to whether "the man on the street" is interested in such matters or not.

What is important is that the authorities who have the power to prosecute, if required to, are interested.