Rising Unemployment?

[paddyhasneeds]

I saw on the news that unemployment figures are supposed to show a rise. Something occurred to me, which is, they always seem to be quoted as a number rather than as a percentage or anything that shows the ratio between population and unemployed.

This seems a little odd as surely when they new reports make the link to the high unemployment of the early 80's (wasn't around to remember it so I'm taking the reports at face value) they aren't factoring in that there is a much higher population, about 7 million more now than in 1980 from a very quick Google?

[hollydog]

Just weight untill the new year unemployment will go through the roof. Theres a few big companies on thr boarder line of going bust now.

[JagLover]

The public sector is expected to lose 120,000 more jobs in 2012, what will happen in the private sector is the big question.

[loafer123]

Comparable unemployment rates for all EU countries here;

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/table.do?tab=...

ETA: PS Spain is really scary. In addition to the headline rate, nearly 50% of under 25s are unemployed, I believe.

Edited by loafer123 on Thursday 29th December 10:53

[davepoth]

The other thing that's an issue is that we now have a policy of taking those who are merely feckless off of incapacity benefit, which was a Labour ploy to reduce unemployment.

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davepoth said:

The other thing that's an issue is that we now have a policy of taking those who are merely feckless off of incapacity benefit, which was a Labour ploy to reduce unemployment.

That particular benefit came around following the mine shut-downs during the late 1980's. It gave the ex miners a few more quid a week to live on apparently.

[davepoth]

crankedup said:

That particular benefit came around following the mine shut-downs during the late 1980's. It gave the ex miners a few more quid a week to live on apparently.

Which was a mistake admittedly. But it was massively, massively extended during the Labour administration. As people are taken off it and put back into JSA or ESA the numbers of people claiming those benefits will rise, and that's the "official" employment figure I believe.

[sidicks]

hollydog said:

Just weight untill the new year unemployment will go through the roof. Theres a few big companies on thr boarder line of going bust now.

I blame the education system...

Sidicks

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anonymous said:

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Electorial suicide - Camaron stated that he is P.M. for just the one Parliament, whether or not Conservatives are re-elected. He knows that the current Coalition partners will be unelectable by the end of this Parliament and is therefore legislating at great haste to put right (as he sees it)the wrongs of the Country. Brings us to the conclusion that the next Government will also be a Coalition, any guess as to who they will be : Labour/Lib-Dem, Labour/Ukip or?

[loafer123]

crankedup said:

Camaron stated that he is P.M. for just the one Parliament...

Are you sure that wasn't just in one of your socialist wet dreams...you know the one with Gordon Brown in a gimp mask and Tony Bliar wearing leather chaps...?!

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loafer123 said:

Are you sure that wasn't just in one of your socialist wet dreams...you know the one with Gordon Brown in a gimp mask and Tony Bliar wearing leather chaps...?!

Lib-Dem the new Socialist - I take it you must have had one too many half pints of shandy Steady sonny still a couple of days of goodwill left, think yourself lucky.

[cymtriks]

hollydog said:

Just wait until the new year, unemployment will go through the roof. There's a few big companies on the border line of going bust now.

Which companies do you mean and what is the source of your claim that they are struggling?

[elster]

So far there hasn't actually been any change in Unemployment over the past year.

However that makes statistics boring, so they try to use as many different formats to make the situation sound worse/better dependent on how they are arguing. Percentages are used it just depends which one the media/politicians choose to band about that day.

[jas xjr]

Retail is with a few rare examples being hammered. Anything non essential I would say is under threat. A company I dealt with , Tobar , has gone into administration. The retail arm , Hawkins bazaar has also gone. With a loss of around 400 jobs

[loafer123]

To be fair to those employees, it has gone into administration, but that doesn't mean the company is dead and buried and the jobs have gone. It could be it simply had too much debt and will be bought out. Fingers crossed for those involved.