More rail strikes
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No idea. Some companies seem(ed) to manage fine (Virgin never seemed to have much trouble) but others like their successors Avanti seem to have constant problems. One thing that will show if this government is serious about fixing the railways is if they finally sort this rest day working nonsense and get Sunday as a normal working day, at least for new starts initially. It’ll mean employing more people but it’ll stop nonsense like this strike and the total non-service being experienced on a Sunday at Northern and others.
Anyone else feel that travelling into London these days is a bit of a gamble? Chances are that in able to get back home you are going to have to pay hundreds of pounds in taxi fares or just sit on a freezing platform for hours.
Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
272BHP said:
Anyone else feel that travelling into London these days is a bit of a gamble? Chances are that in able to get back home you are going to have to pay hundreds of pounds in taxi fares or just sit on a freezing platform for hours.
Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
Probably even more of a gamble trying to get into Manchester or Edinburgh, particularly at the weekend. It’s a nationwide problem (except Wales, where this particular nettle seems to have been grasped) so it’ll be interesting to see what the UK and Scottish governments attempt to do about it.Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
alangla said:
Probably even more of a gamble trying to get into Manchester or Edinburgh, particularly at the weekend. It’s a nationwide problem (except Wales, where this particular nettle seems to have been grasped) so it’ll be interesting to see what the UK and Scottish governments attempt to do about it.
Again tonight. South Western line from Waterloo to Woking - nothing moving for hours.Same last week. Same the week before that.
272BHP said:
Anyone else feel that travelling into London these days is a bit of a gamble? Chances are that in able to get back home you are going to have to pay hundreds of pounds in taxi fares or just sit on a freezing platform for hours.
Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
Yup. Mrs came back from Waterloo on Sunday night, supposed to be getting off at Fareham. At Guildford, they announced that due to the overcrowding on the train, they now wouldn't be stopping at any stops at all after that until Southampton. No advice on what to do for anyone who was supposed to get off before that - tough sUsed to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
t, basically.272BHP said:
Anyone else feel that travelling into London these days is a bit of a gamble? Chances are that in able to get back home you are going to have to pay hundreds of pounds in taxi fares or just sit on a freezing platform for hours.
Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
Went in last Saturday for a family day out. Didn’t even consider using the train, £15 congestion charge plus whatever the fuel is is way cheaper than the train fare anyway.Used to travel in for drinks, gigs, football on a whim but those days are over for awhile - just too risky.
I know people who have spent over a 1000 pound in taxi fares in the last month alone.
Sure enough, loads of cancellations and people on our towns Facebook group talking about hours of delays and expensive taxis.
Shame, as the children like the train as it’s a novelty for them.
I still go in for work, but Mrs S and I won’t go to London on the same day.
Cats_pyjamas said:
Automate the lines, problem solved. We rarely use trains, but have been caught out a few times. We now take a coach.
I've thought this was the solution for ages but before everything could be properly set up, the strikes would get to a point where the trains would be unusable.I do think what needs to happen is people just stop using public transport, transport companies lose money so bin their employees, then the employees start accepting lower salaries and stop moaning/striking every time there's a rota change because they're scared of losing their jobs as the customer has decided to vote with their feet.
Then they introduce automation.
https://www.timeout.com/uk/news/avanti-west-coast-...
Appears to be a dispute over pay for working on a rest day.
Appears to be a dispute over pay for working on a rest day.
1. Automation isn't realistic - too costly, disruptive and never ending.
2. Train Unions remain in a very strong position and can still do largely as they like.
3. Train passengers make up under 10% of overall transport journeys but are centred on main lines into London and other cities.
Is there any solution other than changing travel to cars, buses or bikes - or working from home - or changing work locations ?
2. Train Unions remain in a very strong position and can still do largely as they like.
3. Train passengers make up under 10% of overall transport journeys but are centred on main lines into London and other cities.
Is there any solution other than changing travel to cars, buses or bikes - or working from home - or changing work locations ?
Vasco said:
1. Automation isn't realistic - too costly, disruptive and never ending.
2. Train Unions remain in a very strong position and can still do largely as they like.
3. Train passengers make up under 10% of overall transport journeys but are centred on main lines into London and other cities.
Is there any solution other than changing travel to cars, buses or bikes - or working from home - or changing work locations ?
Break the unions. No unions should have control over infrastructure or essential workers.2. Train Unions remain in a very strong position and can still do largely as they like.
3. Train passengers make up under 10% of overall transport journeys but are centred on main lines into London and other cities.
Is there any solution other than changing travel to cars, buses or bikes - or working from home - or changing work locations ?
They are greedy s. No wonder people think of them as insects.
What do they get paid now 70odd k a year and its not enough for them. More than many skilled qualified professionals earn in the south.
Don't start with the hours they have to work, they know what they are getting into when they sign up.
Absolute idiots, literal idiots.
s. No wonder people think of them as insects.What do they get paid now 70odd k a year and its not enough for them. More than many skilled qualified professionals earn in the south.
Don't start with the hours they have to work, they know what they are getting into when they sign up.
Absolute idiots, literal idiots.
As long as there's few training places for many roles in the railway then a strong union will get them as much as possible.
Expecting the rail unions not to try and get the maximum is a bit like hoping Apple will cut the price of their products for the benefit of their customers.
Unions are given fairly strong levers to pull by successive govs and rail companies, hardly surprising that they then use them.
Expecting the rail unions not to try and get the maximum is a bit like hoping Apple will cut the price of their products for the benefit of their customers.
Unions are given fairly strong levers to pull by successive govs and rail companies, hardly surprising that they then use them.
272BHP said:
alangla said:
Probably even more of a gamble trying to get into Manchester or Edinburgh, particularly at the weekend. It’s a nationwide problem (except Wales, where this particular nettle seems to have been grasped) so it’ll be interesting to see what the UK and Scottish governments attempt to do about it.
Again tonight. South Western line from Waterloo to Woking - nothing moving for hours.Same last week. Same the week before that.
All trains cancelled between 1115 and 215. Fare for two was £12.
Drove in instead and parked all day for £4.
Resulted in cuts in : walking, people, cold, money, hassle.
Completely pointless having a railway if it doesn’t work.
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