Security concerns over Chinese vehicle.
Discussion
Seems the security services are getting quite concerned about Chinese vehicles (and components) , this is on several news sites.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/366599/chinese-...
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/366599/chinese-...
Edited by oakdale on Friday 18th April 09:48
From the article “Sources have told the ‘i’ newspaper that personnel working at Cambridgeshire's RAF Wyton – the UK’s top defence intelligence base – have been instructed to park “at least two miles away” if they are driving a vehicle housing Chinese components. This has been implemented as a result of fears the sat-nav and sensors in the cars could be gathering information about the surroundings and even tracking people’s movements.”
So, that will be any car then…
So, that will be any car then…
We’re living in strange times; Chinese stuff is flooding onto the UK vehicle market, which they’ve never previously had a share in - not just cars, Chinese bus manufacturers are currently selling in decent numbers despite Britain always having retained a strong home manufacturing base in that sector, for once - and yet at the same time it appears that we treat them as a potentially hostile nation.
It really underlines the clusterf**k of a situation we’ve got ourselves into in the lazy West, it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
It really underlines the clusterf**k of a situation we’ve got ourselves into in the lazy West, it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
Southerner said:
It really underlines the clusterf**k of a situation we’ve got ourselves into in the lazy West, it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
It's not laziness though is it. It's more the greed part, in that businesses have shifted manufacturing to a country that has much lower labour costs, and few worker protections, in order to manufacture at the lowest possible cost.
QJumper said:
Southerner said:
It really underlines the clusterf**k of a situation we’ve got ourselves into in the lazy West, it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
It's not laziness though is it. It's more the greed part, in that businesses have shifted manufacturing to a country that has much lower labour costs, and few worker protections, in order to manufacture at the lowest possible cost.
This isn't actually new information. It's been under discussion for some time now in terms of MOD and other sensitive sites - significant concern about Chinese vehicles which are loaded with tech such as cameras and microphones, with various comms protocols that could easily relay imagery and audio back to the manufacturer (and thus to the CCP).
Potentially any restrictions brought in could extend to national infrastructure sites, e.g. gas, electricity, oil, telecoms etc.
Potentially any restrictions brought in could extend to national infrastructure sites, e.g. gas, electricity, oil, telecoms etc.
Southerner said:
it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
Yep. Quite a good analogy.Southerner said:
I would suggest that there is a degree of lazy, if nothing else in not taking the time to actually think things through. It’s cheap, that’ll do, done. Whether it ought to be the population or those who lead the country, somebody should be trying a bit harder to educate IMHO. But yes, mostly greed!
I agree. Sadly though neither governments nor the population have much control over what corporations do.The reality is any device that connects to the internet can be monitored by someone, somewhere.
It always catches people out though. Some US TLA bases were exposed due to smart watch activity.
Look at the work the Israeli's did with the pagers.
We are in a world where one single image is all "they" need to track you. That might come from CCTV, dash cams, supermarket tills.... the list goes on.
It always catches people out though. Some US TLA bases were exposed due to smart watch activity.
Look at the work the Israeli's did with the pagers.
We are in a world where one single image is all "they" need to track you. That might come from CCTV, dash cams, supermarket tills.... the list goes on.
gotoPzero said:
We are in a world where one single image is all "they" need to track you. That might come from CCTV, dash cams, supermarket tills.... the list goes on.
You just have to check out Rainbolt on YouTube etc. the man plays Geo guesser almost professionally, it's impressive what he can do. Then there is the 4chan lot that found Shai LaBeouf's flag location on several occasions by locating the live stream via sunrise and sunset times, vapour trails from aircraft etc
Scary stuff
abzmike said:
From the article “Sources have told the ‘i’ newspaper that personnel working at Cambridgeshire's RAF Wyton – the UK’s top defence intelligence base – have been instructed to park “at least two miles away” if they are driving a vehicle housing Chinese components. This has been implemented as a result of fears the sat-nav and sensors in the cars could be gathering information about the surroundings and even tracking people’s movements.”
So, that will be any car then…
blimey.So, that will be any car then…
I Think the ability to listen in to whatever secret squirrel stuff the Govt is doing is already embedded in the tech the Govt are using.
This is just another part of the information jigsaw that covertly hostile foreign powers are compiling against us.
We are a badly organised country now and the info they are seeking is not what threat we pose in certain circumstances but how weak we are and how easy to control.
We freely gift our personal data to who knows who for who knows what purpose, the Govt is not much better.
This is just another part of the information jigsaw that covertly hostile foreign powers are compiling against us.
We are a badly organised country now and the info they are seeking is not what threat we pose in certain circumstances but how weak we are and how easy to control.
We freely gift our personal data to who knows who for who knows what purpose, the Govt is not much better.
QJumper said:
Southerner said:
It really underlines the clusterf**k of a situation we’ve got ourselves into in the lazy West, it’s like being at an all you can eat buffet and knowing that the chef is poisoning the food but being too greedy to stop eating it.
It's not laziness though is it. It's more the greed part, in that businesses have shifted manufacturing to a country that has much lower labour costs, and few worker protections, in order to manufacture at the lowest possible cost.
I'd say the same with cars. Some 'premium' brands seem hugely over priced compared to fundamentally similar products coming from China that realistically will have pretty much the same useable life and functionality. In the ideal world we'd be back buying fords and peugeots for reasonable quality, reasonable longevity and reasonable functionality and made within Europe.
Edited by biggles330d on Saturday 19th April 09:01
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