William Hague at Qs today
Discussion
ascayman said:
Asterix said:
ascayman said:
should be pm.
There's plenty of time.I believe he will, one day, become PM.
Sadly, to win political power in a democracy, you do have to pander to the plebs. Ideally, there would be another frontrunner with even more mass appeal than CMD - remember that to a Midland or Northern ear, the accent may sound markedly different than to your own.
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
A day is a long time in politics.....a number of years....well, anything can happen!Howard and IDS are somewhat different to Hague though. One is a 1000 years old and the other is a "nothing".
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter. Skii said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter. Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.
Martial Arts Man said:
Skii said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter. Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.
I loathe the celeb culture that New Labia heralded as much as anyone, but it was undeniable popular. Gravitas and trust are hugely attractive and admirable qualities, but they need to be grounded in reality.
Skii said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter. Hague was find for blue rinse tories but he couldn’t appeal to the wider public.
Martial Arts Man said:
Skii said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter. Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat. A case of the right leader at the wrong time.
There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.
StevieBee said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat. A case of the right leader at the wrong time.
There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.
StevieBee said:
Fittster said:
Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.
I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat. A case of the right leader at the wrong time.
There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.
"On the morning of Labour's second consecutive landslide victory in the 2001 general election, Hague stated:"we have not been able to persuade a majority, or anything approaching a majority, that we are yet the alternative government that they need." In the 2001 election the Conservative Party had gained only one seat from their disastrous 1997 election. Following the defeat, Hague resigned as leader, thus becoming the first full Conservative Party leader not to have become Prime Minister."
He's had his time and it didn't work out.
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