Public Sector

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The private sector has had its recession so when is the Public Sector having theirs?

So many non jobs advertised in papers like the Guardian, diversity this, equality this blah blah.

Chap on Question Time last week was talking about the billions wasted on quangos and non jobs.

High time they were given their P45s

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I'm not politically correct enough, I'm not even brown or a lesbian so wouldn't stand much chance of a cushy job / pension for life.

Besides if we all applied who'd pay all that income tax to keep the non jobs in lentils and 2CVs?

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Do we need jobs like these?

http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/950409/programme-ma...

http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/960723/director-of-...

http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/957378/cultural-reg...

How many new non jobs have Labour created, just vote buying as turkeys don't vote for crimbo do they?

Whole departments need to go, the country is skint so can't afford these wasteful types any more. Well never could really.

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ewenm said:

Of course once they've received their P45s they will need to look for other jobs, or go onto benefits. Given the job market isn't great at the moment and those sacked from the public sector won't be the best staff, a lot will end up on benefits - is that better? Yes, it might cost the taxpayer less, but is it better for society? I don't know.

Paying someone 60k to do some politically correct non job is a lot worse than paying them what they are really worth i.e. Income Support.

If things are that bad then why are these jobs still being advertised, a recruitment freeze should mean no more new jobs.

hidetheelephants said:

If only it worked like that...

They have at least two folk to do one persons work to cover for sickies, so you could sack a huge number and the tax payers wouldn't notice a blind bit of difference.

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Tax rises would be the worse thing recession wise, folk need money to spend to stimulate the economy, so sack 1 million public sector wasters and give us the taxpayer the 12 billion back in tax cuts, problem solved.

It's the only way out of this Labour created mess.

Good housekeeping and all that, if you were maxed out on your credit card would spending more get you out of debt? No of course not, you’d need to stop wasting money, and Public Sector is where billions are being wasted, so should be the first to go.

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So why wouldn't paying all these useless folk high wages not save us the taxpayer billions?

It's just vote buying when all said and done, they don't perform any worthwhile jobs, we're not talking firemen, police, nurses here just worthless paper shufflers.

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Bri957 said:

Do you have any direct experience of working in the public sector?

No, I work for a living.

But unfortunately I have plenty of experience of dealing with them and to a man/woman/thing they are all useless, if I had a choice I'd take my custom elsewhere, which of course I don't

Vive la problem

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Pupp said:

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Bri957 said:

Do you have any direct experience of working in the public sector?

No, I work for a living.

But your profile states you're an optician? Can't say that conjours up images of stress and toil in my mind if we're making crass baseless generalisations...

It's not, I'm not saying I slog my guts out or anything, take now for instance here I am dicking about on t'internet but guess what it doesn't cost you a bean, whereas some Ethnic Menu Diversity Officer down in Haringey is costing us all money, money that could be used for better things like giving me a tax cut so I go out and buy something to help the country out of recession.

We do NH eye tests and I just know they will be stingy re paying us anything like what they should be paying so if they are stingy with the nation’s health then why not shed a few pointless pen pushers?

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If I don't work I don't get paid, as I haven't got a Public Sector job

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Tangent Police said:

The people that are true grafters are very much a rarity.

Another oddity of the Public Sector, if you are hopeless at your job you get promoted away from that department, whereas if you are any good they keep you down as you're the only one doing the bloody work.

Climbe case Social Worker got promoted after the child in her care died to get her out of the way.

High time for a raft of sackings across most of the Public Sector let alone redundancies, gross incompetence should mean no redundancy or pension. But then of course watch them strike, but with a lot of departments we’ll not notice anything different, so let em strike and then lock up the offices and send them all a P45.

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Dupont666 said:

I get paid more than that to post here...

HTH

Do you need an apprentice, 100k a year I'd be happy with

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Mr Alan 'iPod won't last' Sugar you mean?

Re Chain Gangs, build a few super prisons; get inmates from current jails to do the simple labouring, 12hr days etc. So would be cheap. Say 10000 inmates in each out on places like Saddleworth Moor. Create jobs (esp in building sector), ease congestion in current jails

Jobs a good un

Feck all to do with Public Sector but it's snowing here; no doubt gritters will be out in June on triple time (well it is to do with public sector after all)

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Dupont666 said:

Futuo said:

Dupont666 said:

I get paid more than that to post here...

HTH

Do you need an apprentice, 100k a year I'd be happy with

Ask Haymarket and PH... they pay me to bulk up the threads, I like the job...

Could easily do that, have 40k posts on another forum

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MonkeyHanger said:

Been partially banned from that forum recently by any chance ?

Could be

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NHS is 4th biggest employer in the world !!

Don't begrudge a decent whack for nurses, doctors etc it's all the unnecessary admin crap that gets me. When folk say ring fencing Health I hope they mean healthcare professionals not admin types.

Visited my mummy too at Sharoe Green Hosp in Preston, there was a cardboard sick bowl there at 4pm that was there that same morning.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8537...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8537298.stm

The public sector in all it's worthless, corrupt and incompetent glory...

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No they aren't, one is but one is about someone who is utterly hopeless at their job and then when a child snuffs it they don't see they have any of the blame, rather like the Climbe or Baby P case.

Did his dad not say that doing that would make him go blind!!!
- Annie, Somewhere, northern ireland,

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Targets that NuLabour set and usually fail to meet, so why bother in the first place, ahh because it means they can make press releases about how wonderful they are and bribe a load of useless types to keep on voting Labour.

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But they cost more than they bring in, yes?

Unless they have just volunteered for 90% taxation, if they have then fine, employ 3 million more of the lazy good for nowt lentil munchers.

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oyster said:

Serious question...

Where do you draw the line at what jobs are actually necessary in the public sector?

Can we all survive without them with a decent standard of living, if yes then they are not essential.

Nurse/Doctor - essential
Ethnic Diversity type bod – superfluous
Policeman – essential
Bin inspector – superfluous

Should not be that hard to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Elroy Blue said:

However, work in the public sector (that'll be the Police/Fire/Ambulance/Nurses/Doctors/Armed Forces etc etc) and you're a parasite.

And what of those in the public sector that aren't any of those things?

Take the CSA for example, a complete waste of taxpayers’ money, Merseyside area (just by coincidence I think not). They still have not got into the black yet, it would have been cheaper had they never been set up in the first place, complete parasites to a man/woman. Utter waste of time; sack the lot of them for gross incompetence with no redundancy or pension.