Locations to retire to and why?

Locations to retire to and why?

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Hol

8,419 posts

202 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Vasco said:
monkfish1 said:
Vasco said:
GT3Manthey said:
Hol said:
My oldest brother retired to Snape and seems to like it, but he is still in his late 50’s and my guess is that he will move again when he needs closer amenities as there really is nothing within walking distance other than the pub and a tourist trap collection of boutique shops.
Yes you see this is what the wife won’t entertain.

She wants to be able to walk to amenities or at least be a very short drive .
As you get older it's ever more important to be close to basic facilities - shops, doctor, pub etc. No point in living in the country and relying on the car if you are taken ill and can no longer drive.
But can you really spend 20 years living somewhere you dont really want to, just so when you get older and you "may" be in need of nearby medical facities?

Surely better to have 20 years or so living the way you want, and deal with any issues that arise, when they do so.

Also the little matter of cost. If i move more rural, i can retire up to a decade earlier. Living in a small town etc comes at a premium.
Not aware of anybody suggesting that you buy somewhere 'living where you don't want to' !! - much more that your house buying takes certain issues into account.
Possibly different for families with plenty of kids/relations close by but it may be more of a concern for single people, or couples with few family available if one is taken ill.
Our current house is too big and expensive to run, so I suspect Mrs H and myself will probably move a second time in retirement, when we get to an age (early 70’s maybe) that we find long haul travel (and maybe even stairs) too much of a bind or cost.

I would expect it to coincide with the time that we no longer use our winter home, so luckily (for us) there will be additional cash to fund that move, for the inal time.

No that I have written it, that concept feels no different to the decision we took in buying out current home nearly 20 years ago. It needed to be kid friendly and within the caption areas of good schools and bus routes.



troika

1,876 posts

153 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.

Bannock

5,020 posts

32 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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troika said:
Bannock said:
Sorry I can't see pictures from behind the firewall I'm on at the moment but I assume it's a picture of the First Minister. OK. I'll see your Sturgeon and raise you a Johnson.

You see we've all get different political positions. Amazing, right? The use of "Marxist" though, well, kind of says more about you than anyone else.

Can we, on this thread, assume that people posting are aware of the current political leaderships and ruling parties in the various parts of the UK and are at peace with this when nominating some nice places to retire? I don't have to take your political biases into consideration, nor you mine.
Fair comment, however, as someone who lived in Wales for 15 years, it does have an impact. Some, of course, may view that positively.
Well I wouldn't go to Wales myself either, my Mum lives there, isn't Welsh (well she has one Welsh great-grandparent but that doesn't carry much weight with the locals, wrong accent see), has been there 30 years, and is fed up with it, and yes politics plays a part in that, amongst other things. But I'm sure it's heaven on Earth for others. SW Scotland is a different kettle of fish to me for several reasons, hence my interest. And I don't mind a bit of rain. In fact I find the weather there quite "changeable", seems to me it rarely suffers from perma-rain and perma-grey skies.

Sticks.

8,834 posts

253 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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V8mate said:
For me, the life-sapping issue which far exceeds the local leaders is rain.
Scotland, Wales, Cornwall - incessant fking rain. I'll take snow, wind, long periods of sub-zero even - but I fking hate rain.

I know it's boring to drag the thread back to Essex, but I love our dry county, even if we do get the odd hosepipe ban.
I agree about rain, and don't mind a bit of cold. But the East Coast will at times be the coldest place to be. Nothing stopping that biting cold N wind. And does it suffer from the same DFL's as Whitstable does in Kent? Frinton is pretty, yes, but looking online there doesn't seem to be any cafes along the front. Or anything.

South coast for me I think, Sussex probably.

aeropilot

34,919 posts

229 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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V8mate said:
For me, the life-sapping issue which far exceeds the local leaders is rain.
Scotland, Wales, Cornwall - incessant fking rain. I'll take snow, wind, long periods of sub-zero even - but I fking hate rain.

I know it's boring to drag the thread back to Essex, but I love our dry county, even if we do get the odd hosepipe ban.
Yep, lot to be said for that, as its pretty much the driest part of the whole UK.


GT3Manthey

4,560 posts

51 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Sticks. said:
I agree about rain, and don't mind a bit of cold. But the East Coast will at times be the coldest place to be. Nothing stopping that biting cold N wind. And does it suffer from the same DFL's as Whitstable does in Kent? Frinton is pretty, yes, but looking online there doesn't seem to be any cafes along the front. Or anything.

South coast for me I think, Sussex probably.
You are correct about Frinton.
There are laws preventing any cafes or mobile food sellers along the esplanade which they do enforce.

Opinion is divided on weather the laws should be changed as away from Frinton but along the coast there are cafes.

There are however plenty of cafes etc in the town but it’s a trot from the beach.

House prices have also been pushed a lot higher over this last 2 years which is annoying and not much comes up for sale.

Flats yes but not so much houses


Edited by GT3Manthey on Friday 25th March 11:15

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
Has there been any mention of retiring to Cornwall yet ?

Spent many child holidays there with my parents and have always loved it there .

Not that my wife would agree to a move that far though sadly
That was the plan. Or devon.

Sadly, the last 18 months has knocked that idea on the head. Price inflation on a ruralish property is insane. Well and truly proced out. To say im disappionted would be an understatement. we were nearly ready to go.

Change of plan required. Looking like wales.

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Bannock said:
troika said:
GT3Manthey said:
Has there been any mention of retiring to Cornwall yet ?

Spent many child holidays there with my parents and have always loved it there .

Not that my wife would agree to a move that far though sadly
Grew up there (and have a place there).Thought very long and hard about moving back down, loads of friends and family there. It’s just not the same place any more. Far too busy and such a bloody long way to get anywhere else that I’d become a hermit. We want to travel more now we have time, not vegetate in the same place. In summary, hugely overrated and grossly overpriced IMHO.
Dumfries and Galloway is the new Cornwall. You heard it here first. The coast is nothing like a cold as people make out Scotland to be - Gulf Stream. It's beautiful, sparsely populated, but with some good sized towns and facilities. Plenty of great countryside and things to see and do. Lively little towns with great cultural events - Wigtown, Kirkcudbright for example. Not as remote as people think either, Glasgow and Carlisle in striking distance, fast trains to the South from Carlisle are easy to get to as well. I'm on my way up there for retirement from the crowded Thames Valley asap. We'll that's today's plan. There's an SWMBO who keeps prevaricating.
A very lovely part of the world. I always look, but i think id stick the english side round brampton etc. Much the same benefits, but less rain. Did see a lovely old farmhouse, but was too late out of the blocks. For which i will kick myself forever.

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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troika said:
ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.
Agreed. Price gone mad. Priced out again frown

DodgyGeezer

40,772 posts

192 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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GT3Manthey said:
There are however plenty of cafes etc in the town but it’s a trot from the beach
keeps the rif-raf away... I'd FAR rather live in Frinton than Southend which has way more amenities than its near neighbour

ARHarh

3,842 posts

109 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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monkfish1 said:
troika said:
ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.
Agreed. Price gone mad. Priced out again frown
Only if you want to live in Ludlow, Church Stretton or Much Wenlock. Head north and prices have gone up but are still very affordable and not over run with tourists.

Theraveda

400 posts

30 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Bannock said:
Dumfries and Galloway is the new Cornwall. You heard it here first. The coast is nothing like a cold as people make out Scotland to be - Gulf Stream. It's beautiful, sparsely populated, but with some good sized towns and facilities. Plenty of great countryside and things to see and do. Lively little towns with great cultural events - Wigtown, Kirkcudbright for example. Not as remote as people think either, Glasgow and Carlisle in striking distance, fast trains to the South from Carlisle are easy to get to as well. I'm on my way up there for retirement from the crowded Thames Valley asap. We'll that's today's plan. There's an SWMBO who keeps prevaricating.
Hmmm. After 30 years of visits to Torrisdale, Kintyre and Morroch Bay, Portpatrick, Galloway, there's no way I'd retire there. The weather sucks donkey dick down a 20ft hosepipe. That's fine if you're happy to stride about over the hills in full weatherproofs for a couple of weeks, as we were, but full-time, retired, especially in the winter? No way.

Theraveda

400 posts

30 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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troika said:
bad company said:
Here’s a really good reason to avoid anywhere in Scotland.

Sadly, a very, very good reason. Same with Wales, it’s run by a Marxist.
You lot need to buy better drugs.

Sticks.

8,834 posts

253 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
keeps the rif-raf away... I'd FAR rather live in Frinton than Southend which has way more amenities than its near neighbour
Does the choice have to be extremes?

Friends live in Leigh on Sea and quite like it, I believe.

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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ARHarh said:
monkfish1 said:
troika said:
ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.
Agreed. Price gone mad. Priced out again frown
Only if you want to live in Ludlow, Church Stretton or Much Wenlock. Head north and prices have gone up but are still very affordable and not over run with tourists.
The rest may not have gone quite as mad, but still priced out compared to pre-covid.

Ive a finite amount of money which certainly hasnt expanded at the rate prices have gone up. However, it is what it is. Not much i can do about it. Either look elsewhere or reduce what i buy.

Its still disappointing though!

Bannock

5,020 posts

32 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Theraveda said:
Bannock said:
Dumfries and Galloway is the new Cornwall. You heard it here first. The coast is nothing like a cold as people make out Scotland to be - Gulf Stream. It's beautiful, sparsely populated, but with some good sized towns and facilities. Plenty of great countryside and things to see and do. Lively little towns with great cultural events - Wigtown, Kirkcudbright for example. Not as remote as people think either, Glasgow and Carlisle in striking distance, fast trains to the South from Carlisle are easy to get to as well. I'm on my way up there for retirement from the crowded Thames Valley asap. We'll that's today's plan. There's an SWMBO who keeps prevaricating.
Hmmm. After 30 years of visits to Torrisdale, Kintyre and Morroch Bay, Portpatrick, Galloway, there's no way I'd retire there. The weather sucks donkey dick down a 20ft hosepipe. That's fine if you're happy to stride about over the hills in full weatherproofs for a couple of weeks, as we were, but full-time, retired, especially in the winter? No way.
The weather sucks donkey dick in Reading, where I live currently, too, I can assure you. My retirement plan involves time away from home, particularly in the winter when I plan to be skiing in Slovenia and/or catching some winter sun in Malta, until my health gives up or I drop dead.

troika

1,876 posts

153 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Bannock said:
Well I wouldn't go to Wales myself either, my Mum lives there, isn't Welsh (well she has one Welsh great-grandparent but that doesn't carry much weight with the locals, wrong accent see), has been there 30 years, and is fed up with it, and yes politics plays a part in that, amongst other things. But I'm sure it's heaven on Earth for others. SW Scotland is a different kettle of fish to me for several reasons, hence my interest. And I don't mind a bit of rain. In fact I find the weather there quite "changeable", seems to me it rarely suffers from perma-rain and perma-grey skies.
Yes, it’s a shame that some outsiders who move to Wales have problems. We never had an issue. To be honest I’d say the Cornish are worse and there is a huge amount of resentment down there from locals. I like Scotland and love visiting but couldn’t live there all year round due to the climate. Whatever floats your boat!

pubrunner

433 posts

85 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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ARHarh said:
Only if you want to live in Ludlow, Church Stretton or Much Wenlock. Head north and prices have gone up but are still very affordable and not over run with tourists.
Agreed ! I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Ellesmere is nice and so is the countryside around Oswestry. Both are within easy reach of Shrewsbury, Llangollen, and Chester.

ARHarh

3,842 posts

109 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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monkfish1 said:
ARHarh said:
monkfish1 said:
troika said:
ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.
Agreed. Price gone mad. Priced out again frown
Only if you want to live in Ludlow, Church Stretton or Much Wenlock. Head north and prices have gone up but are still very affordable and not over run with tourists.
The rest may not have gone quite as mad, but still priced out compared to pre-covid.

Ive a finite amount of money which certainly hasnt expanded at the rate prices have gone up. However, it is what it is. Not much i can do about it. Either look elsewhere or reduce what i buy.

Its still disappointing though!
Not too worry it won't be long till the prices drop. Once all the incomers spend a couple of winters wading through mud, trying to buy enough heating oil to keep one room warm, and driving 6 miles for a pint of milk they will soon head back to their towns with a coffee shop on each corner smile

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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ARHarh said:
monkfish1 said:
ARHarh said:
monkfish1 said:
troika said:
ARHarh said:
When we moved we looked at Dumfries and Galloway as the population is about right for us, and the countryside scenery is lovely, but it was just a bit too far from everyone we know. Ended up in Shropshire, looked in Wales as well but again it can get a long way from everywhere very quickly unless you are in reach of the M4 or A55.
Shropshire is a good shout. I’d happily live in Much Wenlock or Church Stretton if the right place had turned up. However, the prices have jumped too far IMHO, to the point where it’s not ‘that’ far behind the nice Cotswold market towns. To me, it was worth going that bit extra for location, amenities and longer term benefits.
Agreed. Price gone mad. Priced out again frown
Only if you want to live in Ludlow, Church Stretton or Much Wenlock. Head north and prices have gone up but are still very affordable and not over run with tourists.
The rest may not have gone quite as mad, but still priced out compared to pre-covid.

Ive a finite amount of money which certainly hasnt expanded at the rate prices have gone up. However, it is what it is. Not much i can do about it. Either look elsewhere or reduce what i buy.

Its still disappointing though!
Not too worry it won't be long till the prices drop. Once all the incomers spend a couple of winters wading through mud, trying to buy enough heating oil to keep one room warm, and driving 6 miles for a pint of milk they will soon head back to their towns with a coffee shop on each corner smile
Not sure i agree, thouygh i wish it were as you say. I can see a stabilising of prices, but i cant see it dropping back to 2018/19 levels.

Waiting for a drop is a high risk strategy. As in, getting even further priced out frown

Wales beckons..............................