2.5m Planning Rule - Inclusive of BBQ flue
2.5m Planning Rule - Inclusive of BBQ flue
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RolleyPolley

Original Poster:

3 posts

14 months

Sunday 2nd June 2024
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Looking for some clarification on the planning rule for height restrictions when building within 2m of a boundary line.

Our original plan was to build a hut behind the neighbours detached garage, which acts as a party wall in our back garden. This brings the hut within 2m of our boundary.

The original design included a sauna section, below 2.5m in height, however the hut section would have been above this height. I can amend the height of the hut to not exceed the 2.5m but I also planned to install a grill within the hut which would have a chimney going out of the top of the hut and most likely would end approx 0.5m above the roof height.

Would the height of the bbq chimney be included within the maximum height restriction of 2.5m?

Edited by RolleyPolley on Sunday 2nd June 12:12

bennno

13,931 posts

285 months

Sunday 2nd June 2024
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Ignoring the height, is it under 15m2? If not then building it within a metre of the boundary will dictate it need building regs and /or needs to be built from non combustible materials.

RolleyPolley

Original Poster:

3 posts

14 months

Tuesday 4th June 2024
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Yeah, we've managed to keep it at 11m2. We would be keeping it somewhere close to that distance from the fence anyways

Audis5b9

1,206 posts

88 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Did you ever get an answer to this from elsewhere?

I'd like to build a sub 15sqm bbq gazebo type thing and would like a fixed chimney coming out of the top. (All within 2m of the boundary)

My understanding is the chimney would have to stay within the max 2.5m height to stay within PD rights...

Jeremy-75qq8

1,402 posts

108 months

Tuesday 18th March
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My understanding is the same.

There are 2 options

1. Apply for planning

2. Make the chimney a removable component. This doesn't it make it legal but you could immediately comply by removing it.


roscopervis

375 posts

163 months

Tuesday 18th March
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All of the structure needs to be within the height limit for it to be permitted development. The rules are meant to be specific, with no caveats unless specified. If the chimney takes it above 2.5 metres, then it will not be permitted development.

oyster

13,174 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th March
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Drop the land 50cm before building.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,402 posts

108 months

Wednesday 19th March
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that wont work unless the OP happens to have land whey the lowering will appear 100% natural. Even then it is not OK but you might not get caught.

If the main structure is under 2.5 and the chimney is an add on (slip on piece of metal for example) then in my mind this would work as the extra is just a flue that can be removed should anyone visit. This is of course just my view. Is it compliant - no.

Edited by Jeremy-75qq8 on Wednesday 19th March 10:57

ewanjp

456 posts

53 months

Wednesday 19th March
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
that wont work unless the OP happens to have land whey the lowering will appear 100% natural. Even then it is not OK but you might not get caught.

If the main structure is under 2.5 and the chimney is an add on (slip on piece of metal for example) then in my mind this would work as the extra is just a flue that can be removed should anyone visit. This is of course just my view. Is it compliant - no.

Edited by Jeremy-75qq8 on Wednesday 19th March 10:57
Why not? The height of the building is measured from the nearest adjuacent natural height of land. So if he dug in 30cm, they'd measure from the old height.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d7...

Defcon5

6,397 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th March
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Disguise the chimney as a tree trunk

roscopervis

375 posts

163 months

Wednesday 19th March
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ewanjp said:
Jeremy-75qq8 said:
that wont work unless the OP happens to have land whey the lowering will appear 100% natural. Even then it is not OK but you might not get caught.

If the main structure is under 2.5 and the chimney is an add on (slip on piece of metal for example) then in my mind this would work as the extra is just a flue that can be removed should anyone visit. This is of course just my view. Is it compliant - no.

Edited by Jeremy-75qq8 on Wednesday 19th March 10:57
Why not? The height of the building is measured from the nearest adjuacent natural height of land. So if he dug in 30cm, they'd measure from the old height.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d7...
Lots and lots of case law.

andy43

11,654 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th March
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Defcon5 said:
Disguise the chimney as a tree trunk
Needs to be noncombustible so wood or wood derivatives is out. I’m surprised we’re still allowed to grow hedges tbh.

The Gauge

4,975 posts

29 months

Thursday 20th March
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Telescopic flue?