House sold, buyer wanting us to fix stuff

House sold, buyer wanting us to fix stuff

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595Heaven

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2,866 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Finally on the fourth attempt and almost 18 months after first putting it on the market we’ve managed to sell my mother in law’s house to pay her care fees (dementia is a proper bd).

Buyer didn’t pay for any surveys and did it all himself. House was built with a ‘grey water’ system that harvests rain water to flush the loo. Was a pain from day one with numerous breakdowns and a couple of floods in the bathroom. Eventually the builder agreed to disable it and mother in law had zero problems thereafter.

Buyer turned the system on yesterday which popped the main breaker. He’s wanting us to pay for a service and to recommission it.

I’m quite within my rights to tell him to jog on aren’t I? In the long term I’ll be saving him money - the service is over £350 annually which he’d have to take on.

simon_harris

2,120 posts

49 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Has the sale all concluded and you have been paid for the house? I am assuming so in which case just tell him not your problem any more.

mark-3bw80

94 posts

33 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Problems like this are supposed to be cleared up before contracts are exchanged, not your issue anymore, tell him to DO ONE.

fooman

279 posts

79 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Why would you pay to fix stuff in their house? Emphasis on _their_.

(unless of course you misrepresented it like saying the water system was fully functioning)

dundarach

5,691 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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You need to be very clear, very direct and final.

No

End of, no more communication, end of!

Otherwise OP, please can you send me some money too.

You have my sympathy too about care costs, been there, done that, take care of yourself and others!!


Richard-390a0

2,893 posts

106 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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As others have said if sold the money has already gone towards what it was released for.

His house / his problem (not yours).

lizardbrain

2,882 posts

52 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Depends on the contract?

peekay74

455 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Isn’t there some new (to me at least) rule that any problems need to be declared ? If a known, non-declared problem comes up then down to vendor to rectify ? Valid for 6 years after sale ?
It may not be applicable to this and I could be totally wrong but seem to remember coming across it somewhere ?
Found this: https://goodmove.co.uk/blog/buying-advice/how-long...

Slowboathome

4,460 posts

59 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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If you mentioned the system as part of the fixtures and fittings I think the assumption is that it's in working order.

However I vaguely recall that the last time I bought a house the onus was on me to check that everything worked after contract exchange but before completion.

I've been no help at all, have I?

dundarach

5,691 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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I guess the question is was the water system advertised as a feature in the sales?

Does the toilet work without this system.

Did he know about it before he bought the house, or has he discovered it?

If you sold the house with this 'feature' and it doesn't work, then you might want to sort it.

Otherwise, NO

It was never part of the sale, don't use it.

Black_S3

2,741 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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I wouldn’t admit to knowing about it but surely given the seller was elderly with dementia and the buyer was a know it all who did his own surveys is enough to just laugh at him. I’ve heard of plenty people getting buyers chancing their luck with ridiculous expectations but never actually heard of anyone that’s had to hand over money to a buyer bar maybe a couple of stories that make it into the newspapers when a seller has been deliberately deceptive.

Wildfire

9,872 posts

267 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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If the sale is done and dusted no.

Our buyer made all sorts of unreasonable demands before we sold: he wanted all our furniture, wanted a full repaint and clean on the day of purchase, us to indemnify the whole block of flats against destruction, then he wanted us to install a toilet in a cupboard, indemnify the electrics for the flat and a load of other bizzare things. Our estate agent politely told him no.

Once we had moved we were sorting out mail and we gave him a throw away email address. He mailed me asking me to: come switch off the heated mirror and check it, program his thermostat, clean the black mold off the bedroom (he and his wife couldn't work out how to open the windows and had managed to get the heating stuck on 23 degrees), install his TV, change a light bulb and a light fitting.

I did none of these, except show him how to switch off the heated mirror (which had been on for 3 months as they had taken the sticker and instructions off), and show them how to open windows (really) when I picked up our mail. I binned the email account after.

595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,866 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Yes, sale is done and money in the bank. We never mentioned the system as it was decommissioned years ago. I’m a bit surprised it was still connected electrically but I wasn’t to know.

Toilet now uses mains water supply and everything works fine.

Thanks all - I will put a stop to further discussions!

Black_S3

2,741 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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595Heaven said:
Toilet now uses mains water supply and everything works fine.
That’s it in a nutshell… it was there, didn’t work so was decommissioned… he’s now recommissioned it and fked himself laugh

leef44

4,957 posts

168 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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Sounds like a naive buyer who just needs to be ignored. He did his own survey to save money and now finds something wrong. I think he needs to sue himself.

OMITN

2,721 posts

107 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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peekay74 said:
Isn’t there some new (to me at least) rule that any problems need to be declared ? If a known, non-declared problem comes up then down to vendor to rectify ? Valid for 6 years after sale ?
It may not be applicable to this and I could be totally wrong but seem to remember coming across it somewhere ?
Found this: https://goodmove.co.uk/blog/buying-advice/how-long...
Misrepresentation has a specific meaning in law.

The buyer would need to prove that the OP had committed misrep.

In reality the buyer also had a responsibility to do their own investigations. So, at worst, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other.

My starting position - as it was when I had a buyer phone me at 10 o’clock one night a few days after they had bought our flat - is to remind them it’s their property and their problem.

Then block the guy’s number.

Simpo Two

89,128 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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595Heaven said:
Yes, sale is done and money in the bank. We never mentioned the system as it was decommissioned years ago. I’m a bit surprised it was still connected electrically but I wasn’t to know.

Toilet now uses mains water supply and everything works fine.

Thanks all - I will put a stop to further discussions!
Good job houses aren't sold like cars isn't it!

Yep, it's his problem, he owns it now.

PoorCarCollector

193 posts

35 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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"I'm sorry to hear you have a problem with YOUR house"

Goodbye


595Heaven

Original Poster:

2,866 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th July 2024
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PoorCarCollector said:
"I'm sorry to hear you have a problem with YOUR house"

Goodbye
Like that a lot!

The stupid thing is that if he reinstates it, he already knows they recommend an annual service at £350. Bonkers…

ziggy328

1,196 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th July 2024
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Hi OP, on the matter of funding the care home fees, have a read of this thread, just wanted to ensure that you really do have to pay them.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them if I am able to.