Can an oven and gas hob go in the corner? next to wall

Can an oven and gas hob go in the corner? next to wall

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CoolHands

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201 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Very limited space in a flat. See pic. I want the oven on the right, and it has a gas hob. Is that allowed / acceptable? The sink will go in the space to the left above the drawer unit, with the drainer over the washing machine. The fridge and freezer are elsewhere.
screenshot of my ikea kitchen plan!:


boyse7en

7,083 posts

171 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I don't see why not, but the hob will be a PITA as you won't be able to put saucepan handles out over to the right, so they might not fit around the other saucepans or will get hot.

Could you put an under-counter oven in, then put a separate hob bridging the two units? This will give you about 50cm of worktop either side. I don't know if you can put a gas hob above a drawer and still retain use of the drawer, but certainly an induction hob will do it.

Du1point8

21,674 posts

198 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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The first time you have a flare up you will decide its a bad idea, that and you have no movement to the right, you will end up elbowing that wall so much... plus all the cleaning from spatter when using it near the wall.

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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boyse7en said:
I don't see why not, but the hob will be a PITA as you won't be able to put saucepan handles out over to the right, so they might not fit around the other saucepans or will get hot.

Could you put an under-counter oven in, then put a separate hob (induction as a preference) bridging the two units? this will give you about 50cm of worktop either side.
Good point didn't think about the handles. Do you mean put it in the middle like this?


Du1point8

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Friday 28th November 2014
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CoolHands said:
boyse7en said:
I don't see why not, but the hob will be a PITA as you won't be able to put saucepan handles out over to the right, so they might not fit around the other saucepans or will get hot.

Could you put an under-counter oven in, then put a separate hob (induction as a preference) bridging the two units? this will give you about 50cm of worktop either side.
Good point didn't think about the handles. Do you mean put it in the middle like this?

a lot better... if not for your sanity alone.

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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right just understood what you meant - oven on right next to wall, but hob in middle above drawer unit (yes it's possible apparently). Looks good cheers both.


boyse7en

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171 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Well, that last one will be better, but you'll have saucepan handles hanging over your sink.

I meant like this




Matt_N

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208 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Could you have an L shaped unit tagged onto the door wall?

That way you then have a bit of workspace either side of both the cooker and the sink. You could have one of those funky corner storage units too then.

Having a worktop next to the sink is nice for stacking your dirty dishes up against and likewise with a bit each side of the cooker you can have your ingredients, chopping board etc out.

Doesn't look like you'd be too cramped if you did?

Or have it in the alcove at the other end where the washing machine is and move the washing machine to the door wall?

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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yeah I see what you mean I could centralise the hob like that. Re the other comments (Matt) - I could have the cooker up against the right wall, with a corner unit. In these pics I have added the two other units that contain the fridge and freezer underneath a worktop, so you can see how the entire space is. Thansk for all the suggestions










Edited by CoolHands on Friday 28th November 13:41

sidekickdmr

5,116 posts

212 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I think the last option with the cooker on side wall looks best and then you not only have additional worktop and storage, but you have the option of adding some wall units for even more storage then.

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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yeah brilliant thanks chaps - this is a view of the whole living room / open kitchen area so as you can see there aren't many options. I will get some wall units also, as storage is difficult it's a very compact 2-bed flat.


Pheo

3,370 posts

208 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Not sure having the job on the end like that is a good idea

Couldn't you swap the sink and the oven? Running the drainer into the corner as its dead space anyway so would seem ideal to me.

RDMcG

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213 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I would do it differently. Put stove on back wall, midpoint. Put sink on the island which can now be longer as you have no L with the stove. Perfect for cooking and washing. I have it that way and its ideal. Dishwasher also in island under sink. Pill post a pic later

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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RDMcG said:
I would do it differently. Put stove on back wall, midpoint. Put sink on the island which can now be longer as you have no L with the stove. Perfect for cooking and washing. I have it that way and its ideal. Dishwasher also in island under sink. Pill post a pic later
ok that's interesting you mean something like this? But bare in mind I need two fridges underneath that island unit. (or if one goes in the corner then the washing machine + one fridge under the island). Will have to look at whether the sink sticks down in the wrong place etc but thanks for the idea.

What does everyone think about this? - having the sink in the middle? This island is 180 wide so three regular units eg 2 fridges and one space for sink I suppose






Edited by CoolHands on Friday 28th November 16:36

ali_kat

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227 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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I'd put the & hob oven where the sink is in the last picture, t'would make your plumbing easier & means you can talk to people/visitors, watch TV etc whilst cooking.

You've changed the picture! laugh it was in the middle of the unit before smile

The other advantage of the sink being in the back wall, is that the work surface can go over the washing machine, with the draining board set in it, for more workspace.

Edited by ali_kat on Friday 28th November 16:07

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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ali_kat said:
I'd put the & hob oven where the sink is in the last picture, t'would make your plumbing easier & means you can talk to people/visitors, watch TV etc whilst cooking.

You've changed the picture! laugh it was in the middle of the unit before smile

The other advantage of the sink being in the back wall, is that the work surface can go over the washing machine, with the draining board set in it, for more workspace.

Edited by ali_kat on Friday 28th November 16:07
ok like this? I'm going round in circles party








Edited by CoolHands on Friday 28th November 16:37

Neil - YVM

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205 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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CoolHands said:
ok that's interesting you mean something like this? But bare in mind I need two fridges underneath that island unit. (or if one goes in the corner then the washing machine + one fridge under the island). Will have to look at whether the sink sticks down in the wrong place etc but thanks for the idea.

What does everyone think about this? - having the sink in the middle? This island is 180 wide so three regular units eg 2 fridges and one space for sink I suppose






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Edited by CoolHands on Friday 28th November 16:03
This is the best option so far.

CoolHands

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Friday 28th November 2014
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Neil - YVM said:
This is the best option so far.
Do you think the sink there is better than the oven? I can't decide. The oven being there would be easier than the sink with regard to plumbing. I might get an induction hob as suggested they look pretty cool.

dickymint

25,706 posts

264 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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The question is (in a flat) can you realistically move the waste outlets? If not then you can forget most of the plans you've drawn.

As regards your original question about hob position - depends on the manufacturers instructions re distances to flammable materials.

You not having a cooker hood?

Edited by dickymint on Friday 28th November 17:06

Simpo Two

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271 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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CoolHands said:
This is best IMHO. The L-shaped idea might seem great but it makes the room look smaller, restricts access and the chunk of 'storage' in the corner is largely wasted as you can't get to it easily. My kitchen had an L-return on it, and after I got rid of it and replaced it with a straight line everything was so much nicer.