Scalpings and cement?

[Blackpuddin]

About to throw another three ton or so of scalpings on our unadopted bombsite of a lane. Previous attempts have been a bit useless but this time I'm trying proper Type 1 MOT scalpings which apparently are a lot better. I'll believe it when I see it ha ha.
We won't be Tarmacing over the scalpings as that's crazy money, so it will may just blow out again, but I'm wondering if there is any value in sprinkling some cement dust in there to try and hold it together a little better?

[Blackpuddin]

Council was redoing the whole main road outside our lane recently and we got absolutely nowhere with the road crew when more than one of us asked the question about leftover materials, or indeed with the council when they were approached directly.
Do we not think that a smattering of cement dust, watered in, will have at least some bonding effect? We're having to do something quick (again) as our lovely binman driver announced last week that he won't be coming again. Ironic really as it's the huge bin lorry that has done most of the damage over time. And the council won't look at providing a smaller lorry.

[Blackpuddin]

Will be investing in more SLOW DOWN signs but that's more in hope than expectation. Stupid neighbours see a smoothed out lane as an opportunity to speed up, not slow down. And delivery van drivers go at the same speed irrespective of the road surface.

[Blackpuddin]

i've got three 850kg bags coming to start with from Sydenhams, the going rate from them is £52 inc VAT per bag and I don't think they are particularly expensive. Where there's muck there's brass etc.

We're trying the MOT Type 1 stuff (as opposed to random scalpings) becaus a local farm uses it to stabilise the ground trodden on by bulls and they reckon it works pretty well. Not sure how it will stand up to an enthusiastically driven large SUV though.

We have done the whole lane more than once, and someone paid a 'travelling' outfit to resurface it for a few grand "with a 7 year guarantee" ha ha. Needless to say that was all gone within a month.

[Blackpuddin]

Black_S3 said:

My advice would be don't do it. It doesn't last and just encourages people to say the road doesn't need resurfacing. We had a similar situation with some houses saying they didn't want to spend the money, one neigbour was constantly patching the holes out of his own pocket, he eventually got fed up and stopped patching the road - within 1 winter everyone was in agreement and we got the whole road done properly.

I'm sure you're right there but sadly the neighbourly atmos in this lane is toxic.

[Blackpuddin]

Jonny TVR said:

are we talking private lanes or public lanes. The narrow dead end public lane outside my house is terrible. The highways agency is never going to resurface it so was thinking of just doing it myself or rather get someone to tarmac it.

Ours is an unadopted lane and the council won't even consider adopting it until 'we' (the residents) sort it. Which is an issue in itself as nobody actually owns the lane. It is a Public Footpath and I have been trying to engage with the council on that basis (it becomes impassable/dangerous to pedestrians after even moderate rain), but they are not biting.

[Blackpuddin]

Jonny TVR said:

Black_S3 said:

The OP mentioned it's an unadopted road, so will be privately owned.

If yours is a public road the council should be maintaining it. Start here https://www.gov.uk/report-pothole and keep the pressure on till they do something. It's usually not too difficult as they are wary of the potential bills from a little old lady breaking her neck when she trips on a pothole that has been reported to them countless times.

Yes been doing that for a year and sent emails

Funny isn't it. I've been reporting a fritzing streetlamp for literally years, they are very good at responding to that (albeit dozens of times as they don't seem able to effect a permanent fix) but my reports about the state of the Public Footpath meet with a stony silence despite it being just as valid and going through exactly the same reporting process. I expect it's because it's a bit harder.

[Blackpuddin]

Black_S3 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Funny isn't it. I've been reporting a fritzing streetlamp for literally years, they are very good at responding to that (albeit dozens of times as they don't seem able to effect a permanent fix) but my reports about the state of the Public Footpath meet with a stony silence despite it being just as valid and going through exactly the same reporting process. I expect it's because it's a bit harder.

So your road has streetlights but is unadopted? Never heard of that before!

It (just the one!) was put in as a result of Mrs B's tireless campaigning!

[Blackpuddin]

We used a one-man hire roller last time, tbh it didn't seem to keep it down any better or worse. Might see if anyone local has a manual tamper they can lend me. Handy for releasing physical tension as I think of all the neighbours who I can say with some degree of certainty won't be helping me.

[Blackpuddin]

That sounds like a brilliant solution for our lane which suffers badly from water accumulation, mainly because there is no drainage. Water just flows in from the adjoining fields and sticks around for ages. A central high point running down the lane would help I guess but in reality we just get big transverse ridges as the rubble gets pushed forward and back from the potholes by traffic.
It'll never happen here because there is no community spirit or will to contribute. I've been wondering about approaching the council with the idea of them doing the work (which would hopefully allow them to adopt the lane) and the residents paying for it over a period of time through a compulsory uplift in their council tax. Has anybody heard of such an approach working?

Edited by Blackpuddin on Tuesday 6th February 20:00

[Blackpuddin]

I believe the Type 1 scalpings has some sort of additive in it?