Advice re: dogs scared of fireworks
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The sort of prat (spelt with an I and deletion of k ,to be replaced with ck) might just ask themselves what action they'd take if this sort of yib(I always mistake my I and A too when typing.) targeted some elderly relation .
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Aw, my hero, that's what you want to hear when you harp on about "blah blah rescue dog blah blah" isnt it? And for Christs sake learn to spell!! So I replace I, delete the k, add..oh forget it, tell you what, thneitu nduthn ndheunt.
Replace th with y, n with o ei with u, tu with r...nduthn with a....n with N, dh with u, e with m, u with p, n with t, then remove the t and use y.
The sort of prat (spelt with an I and deletion of k ,to be replaced with ck) might just ask themselves what action they'd take if this sort of yib(I always mistake my I and A too when typing.) targeted some elderly relation .
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Aw, my hero, that's what you want to hear when you harp on about "blah blah rescue dog blah blah" isnt it? And for Christs sake learn to spell!! So I replace I, delete the k, add..oh forget it, tell you what, thneitu nduthn ndheunt.
Replace th with y, n with o ei with u, tu with r...nduthn with a....n with N, dh with u, e with m, u with p, n with t, then remove the t and use y.
So you've now just de-railed a perfectly fine thread that people were genuinely interested in, just to satisfy what? Your ego?.
Can you not see what a massive idiot troll you are?
PH is better than this, where's the ban hammer?
BTW, Dog lovers do genuinely consider their dog as part of the family. This isn't weird behaviour, rather it is quite normal.
Can you not see what a massive idiot troll you are?
PH is better than this, where's the ban hammer?
BTW, Dog lovers do genuinely consider their dog as part of the family. This isn't weird behaviour, rather it is quite normal.
DuncanM said:
PH is better than this, where's the ban hammer?
PH was better than this. Unfortunately the majority of the P&P forums are now unusable do to trolls like the above.I wouldn't ban fireworks. But I would limit them to a specific hour for these two weeks. Yesterday we had fireworks from 17:00 through to midnight constantly. Which was a bit much for me to take, never mind a dog. But now diwali is over, hopefully it'll just be the 5th where it go's on and on. Just have them 18:00 to 19:00 would have been fine.
Dont worry, I wont derail the thread any longer, although I doubt there's any magic formula apart from common sense to minimise the impact of fireworks to your family member, I mean, dog.
If you think it's perfectly normal to consider a dog as part of your family, good for you, but dont think it's normal, please, maybe normal to someone who thinks that, but not to anyone else.
I hope a Professor of Dog/Firework inter-relationships comes along and solves your woes, or perhaps you could call the Police and ask them to shut down the fireworkers because your dog is making a wierd howling noise every time they go off, I dunno.
If you think it's perfectly normal to consider a dog as part of your family, good for you, but dont think it's normal, please, maybe normal to someone who thinks that, but not to anyone else.
I hope a Professor of Dog/Firework inter-relationships comes along and solves your woes, or perhaps you could call the Police and ask them to shut down the fireworkers because your dog is making a wierd howling noise every time they go off, I dunno.
I don't agree with banning fireworks, this thread is about people trying to help each other deal with how their dog deals with fireworks.
I'm interested in how old you are? I've only owned my first dog for the last three years, and before having a dog I didn't realise just how much you end up loving them, and treating them as part of the family.
You really don't know until you try it.
The trolling just sucks no matter what the topic though tbh.
I'm interested in how old you are? I've only owned my first dog for the last three years, and before having a dog I didn't realise just how much you end up loving them, and treating them as part of the family.
You really don't know until you try it.
The trolling just sucks no matter what the topic though tbh.
Tokoloshe said:
Oh come on, it's just a dog!! I know they're companionship for some people etc but really, putting them on such a pedastil is a bit silly. It'll have a few nights of some fireworks, then be fine, and if you dont want non dog lover types adding their opinion put it in the pets forum, I would assume people who dont have some strange love affair with an animal dont go on there.
I have come accross some people who are so precious about their dogs it gets rediculous, some perspective wouldnt go amis sometimes.
I guess you didn't see my request to have this thread moved to the pet forum then?I have come accross some people who are so precious about their dogs it gets rediculous, some perspective wouldnt go amis sometimes.
The pet forum didn't exist when I first posted this a year ago.
There are dogs out there that will destroy a house in terror of fireworks, can they really be ignored? and what about the dogs that break out of the house or break their lead due to a rogue firework and get hit by a car as a result. I could go on but I know I am wasting my time as you have a set opinion that is unlikely to be changed no matter how many examples I give. I started this thread to help those that do want to help their canine friends.
Ill have to agree with some of that Duncan, Ive never had a dog (well, for a very short period when I was a kid before it was taken away) so havent ever had a relationship with an animal (although a few ex girlfriends might count, but that's a whole different thread).
Maybe I would understand this if I had a dog, I just dont think I have the traits to consider a dog on the same level as a person.
As for my age, old, very old, and miserable because of it.
Maybe I would understand this if I had a dog, I just dont think I have the traits to consider a dog on the same level as a person.
As for my age, old, very old, and miserable because of it.
Edited by Tokoloshe on Thursday 27th October 15:38
Tokoloshe said:
As for my age, old, very old, and miserable because of it.
Perhaps ,you might like to consider that ALL of Gods creatures have a right to live and remain free from fear , and those of us sentient beings have a duty of care ( despite their age -that's no excuse)to ensure that they are ensured that this quality of life is available to them . UNLESS of course you are a TROLL . Edited by Tokoloshe on Thursday 27th October 15:38
Please advise which camp you are in
Tokoloshe said:
I just dont think I have the traits to consider a dog on the same level as a person.
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Speaking purely for my self here, there is no way I consider my dog on the same level as my children/mrs.[/footnote]
That doesn't stop me loving him very much though, and not wanting to see him wimpering in the Kitchen in the evening, afraid to go outside
.Surely if you're old, your world isn't so black and white? Compassion for animals is a great human trait/quality in my opinion.
It pains me to admit you are right, and I do have a lot of compassion for animals generally, just was getting my irritation of the whole "I love my dog like a child" off my chest.
Unfortunately the counter arguments have been stronger than whatever argument I thought I had, so Ill conceed.
Unfortunately the counter arguments have been stronger than whatever argument I thought I had, so Ill conceed.
Tokoloshe said:
Dont worry, I wont derail the thread any longer, although I doubt there's any magic formula apart from common sense to minimise the impact of fireworks to your family member, I mean, dog.
If you think it's perfectly normal to consider a dog as part of your family, good for you, but dont think it's normal, please, maybe normal to someone who thinks that, but not to anyone else.
I hope a Professor of Dog/Firework inter-relationships comes along and solves your woes, or perhaps you could call the Police and ask them to shut down the fireworkers because your dog is making a wierd howling noise every time they go off, I dunno.
There are some threads where I can read obvious trolling and the responses and enjoy the wit of the participants. There are other threads where I can read some obvious trolling and marvel at the depth of feeling and intellect of the correspondants. That's one of the joys of certain sections of PH fora in my view.If you think it's perfectly normal to consider a dog as part of your family, good for you, but dont think it's normal, please, maybe normal to someone who thinks that, but not to anyone else.
I hope a Professor of Dog/Firework inter-relationships comes along and solves your woes, or perhaps you could call the Police and ask them to shut down the fireworkers because your dog is making a wierd howling noise every time they go off, I dunno.
But I'm sorry, I can see no place, validity or even sense in your posts in what is a light thread about an issue that concerns dog owners. Not zealot, dogs deserve a place in government, dog owners, just people with dogs. I love the realtionship my family has with our dog. It adds to the quality of life in our family in ways you are choosing to ignore. Some dogs don't react to fireworks. Some dogs are terrified and some, like ours get over excited and react to the bangs. What exactly offends you abut me wanting to seek advice from the PH zeitgeist including those that have been before or know better.
People at PH often give expert advice in the spirit of friendly assistance in the knolwedge that the advice is taken as such.
I guess some people just can't help being t
ts. Edit: My post crossed with the one directly above. On the basis of the comments in that post it would be rude of me not to recognise that consession made.
Edited by silverthorn2151 on Thursday 27th October 16:44
Just wondering, has anyone else got a dog that barks at fireworks? Our 10-month-old rescue has never encountered them before, but she did last night. And she barked while they were going off. Not in a scared way, more in a "there's someone outside" way.
We're discovering a few little things that worry her. The sound of a sliding door on a van, or any kind of diesel engine. And old men with grey hair, especially if they have beards. And now loud bangs. God knows what happened to her before we got her.
Anyway, if anyone has any advice on how to persuade her that barking at fireworks isn't going to stop them going off, I'd be grateful! Thanks.
We're discovering a few little things that worry her. The sound of a sliding door on a van, or any kind of diesel engine. And old men with grey hair, especially if they have beards. And now loud bangs. God knows what happened to her before we got her.
Anyway, if anyone has any advice on how to persuade her that barking at fireworks isn't going to stop them going off, I'd be grateful! Thanks.
SGirl said:
We're discovering a few little things that worry her. The sound of a sliding door on a van, or any kind of diesel engine. And old men with grey hair, especially if they have beards. And now loud bangs. God knows what happened to her before we got her.
Maybe she was in a diesel van with a sliding door driven by an old man with grey hair and a beard.Yep - it's that time of year again I'm hoping that as Nov 5th is on a Saturday that the fireworks will be mostly limited to the one day.
One of my dogs is so scared he literally injures himself in a blind panic
He has a new Beaphar collar on, I've got two DAP diffusers in the house, started him on Calmex and have a dark crate set up.
The other one of my dogs will probably shout at the fireworks. She's only been here a few months so not gone through anything like it yet. I propose to pop sweeties in her gob every time she opens it for a shout, so I'll be pairing the scary thing with a positive thing. Hopefully she'll end up looking for sweeties every time one goes off rather than shouting.
I'm hoping that as Nov 5th is on a Saturday that the fireworks will be mostly limited to the one day.One of my dogs is so scared he literally injures himself in a blind panic
He has a new Beaphar collar on, I've got two DAP diffusers in the house, started him on Calmex and have a dark crate set up.The other one of my dogs will probably shout at the fireworks. She's only been here a few months so not gone through anything like it yet. I propose to pop sweeties in her gob every time she opens it for a shout, so I'll be pairing the scary thing with a positive thing. Hopefully she'll end up looking for sweeties every time one goes off rather than shouting.
Mrs Grumpy said:
The other one of my dogs will probably shout at the fireworks. She's only been here a few months so not gone through anything like it yet. I propose to pop sweeties in her gob every time she opens it for a shout, so I'll be pairing the scary thing with a positive thing. Hopefully she'll end up looking for sweeties every time one goes off rather than shouting.
Or she'll work out that if she barks at fireworks she'll get a treat.Tokoloshe said:
Seriously? You're worried about a dog cowering because of a few days of fireworks? I think maybe you've got too much time on your hands or something, it's a dog, not an elderly person, put things into perspective and realses it's hardly something worth posting about.
Why care about old people any more than dogs?? Old people are going to die soon anyway, so what is the big deal?? 
And besides, you seemed to find the time to respond to something which you don't even think should have been posted. Maybe YOU have got too much time on your hands?
AdiT said:
Mrs Grumpy said:
The other one of my dogs will probably shout at the fireworks. She's only been here a few months so not gone through anything like it yet. I propose to pop sweeties in her gob every time she opens it for a shout, so I'll be pairing the scary thing with a positive thing. Hopefully she'll end up looking for sweeties every time one goes off rather than shouting.
Or she'll work out that if she barks at fireworks she'll get a treat.
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