Should I shoot my dog?

[Olf]

Have you thought about getting a cat to distract them from the missus?

Get some old big ginger tom that can stick up for itself, buy it a kevlar coat and bin the tele. Hours of fun for the whole family.

[dave_s13]

Olf said:

Have you thought about getting a cat to distract them from the missus?

Get some old big ginger tom that can stick up for itself, buy it a kevlar coat and bin the tele. Hours of fun for the whole family.

lol

Already have 2 cats......but they live outside 90% of the time, not scared of the dogs, just seem to prefer it? Not too bothered though, they're the wifes.

Just to clarify.

Both dogs are neutered and have been for months in Steves case, years for Pete.

Last nights attack occured while Steve was sound asleep, he growled for a few seconds then sprang into life and bit my misses. He seemed to be lunging for the other dog though.

All is back to normal now, been out for the night and not come back to a blood bath, in fact we never have. This leads me to beleive that when we're out there's never an issue. The power struggle seems to occur only when me and the wife are present.

So anyway, from now on it's no sitting on furniture or the bed and if there's one more fight between them Steve goes to be rehomed, of maybe consider some professional help. But if there's one more incident of Steve biting someone......caboooom!!! Well no actually he'll go to the vets and be dealt with accordingley.

[becksW]

dave_s13 said:

Olf said:

Have you thought about getting a cat to distract them from the missus?

Get some old big ginger tom that can stick up for itself, buy it a kevlar coat and bin the tele. Hours of fun for the whole family.

lol

Already have 2 cats......but they live outside 90% of the time, not scared of the dogs, just seem to prefer it? Not too bothered though, they're the wifes.

Just to clarify.

Both dogs are neutered and have been for months in Steves case, years for Pete.

Last nights attack occured while Steve was sound asleep, he growled for a few seconds then sprang into life and bit my misses. He seemed to be lunging for the other dog though.

All is back to normal now, been out for the night and not come back to a blood bath, in fact we never have. This leads me to beleive that when we're out there's never an issue. The power struggle seems to occur only when me and the wife are present.

So anyway, from now on it's no sitting on furniture or the bed and if there's one more fight between them Steve goes to be rehomed, of maybe consider some professional help. But if there's one more incident of Steve biting someone......caboooom!!! Well no actually he'll go to the vets and be dealt with accordingley.

You should seek advice anyway. Too many people wait for that one more incident and then decide they have to euthanse the dog, if you do it now it will hopefully prevent you worrying that there will be another incident.

Had a woman wih a 1yr ol shih tzu, it had to be pts because owners had been trying to home treat the dog with methods she'd seen from from TV programmes re: its dominance, by the time she came to us it had bitten her and a grandchild (it'd bitten the owner more than once) we had to advise it was euthansed but if she had come to us 6 months earlier when she first had a problem we could have sorted out the issues before he'd bitten anyone (He'd started off with growling etc before progressing to biting)

[m3jappa]

i thought it was only pitbulls and staffs that attacked people? not 'family' pets.

o/t here but after reading the 'fighting pitbulls' comment i couldnt resist.
just to add while i,m at it that if you research on the net you will find that there are many breeds used for fighting including the chow which to the un trained eye may look quite cute with its furry image.theres also huskie type dogs used amongst others.
for some reason the government chose to ban 4 breeds and the pitbull has taken the brunt of it all.when people think dog aggression they think pitbull.they dont realise that ANY dog can be dangerous.
a bit more research and you will find that pitbulls are actually excellent family pets-they were bred to kill but other dogs,they were bred to respect their master.
the problem has become one of the idiots got hold of the pitbull.the media got hold of pics of them looking mean and its freefalled down hill.
sorry for going o/t but if just one reader takes 5 mins to do some research then for me its worth it.

just to add.i keep staffs and keeping males is a recipe for disaster.i,m not sure what its like with other breeds?

Edited by m3jappa on Sunday 28th October 00:29

[mybrainhurts]

dave_s13 said:

95% of the time the 2 dogs get on fine, share a bed together, often giving each other a lick clean etc, seem like pals....

I reckon Steve and Pete are a bit more than, errr, pals....

The Baptists will sort 'em out for you...

[dave_s13]

Update :-)

We ended up rehoming Steve with a really nice family. The dad was called Steve, and so was his young lad!

Pete was put to sleep today after getting liver cancer.


RIP Pete me old chum. 13.5 years, not a bad run fella.

[Superficial]

The original post is disgusting.

Glad Steve was rehomed to a better home.

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[dave_s13]

Superficial said:

The original post is disgusting.

Glad Steve was rehomed to a better home.

.

Haha.

Typical ph w anker.

[telecat]

Sorry to hear about Pete, Hopefully Steve is doing well. As for Superficial, well the name says it all really.

[johnnywgk]

pistonbroke PHd said:

Shoot Steve, for Pete's sake

Now that was funny. Me Likey!

[ClassicMercs]

There are some cretins on here at times.

Sorry for the loss.

The re-homing was probably the best answer in the circumstances so that both dogs could fulfil their own potential. Very few dogs deserve to be 'pts' in early life - they just need the right opportunity.

We lost our old rescue collie last last year and she was always top dog - who used up more lives than she deserved in her younger life (thanks to the past owner and what she had been put through) - she had to be very carefully managed. Our second dog easily found his place at the bottom of the pile.
Our third dog took over top spot, but not without a few little fights - possessional things. Luckily the old dog was too old to really let rip, or we would have been in the same position as you found yourself.

I hope you enjoy the memories after the pain subsides. Although I must say for us its been a bit the other way around. Due to age (nearly 18) we had a lot of time preparing and the loss has actually got worse after an initial feeling of doing the right thing 'pts'.

[Superficial]

dave_s13 said:

Haha.

Typical ph w anker.

Really? You've admitted to animal cruelty and being totally out of control of yourself on a public forum and I'm the wker?

dave_s13 said:

I reacted by lamping the living $hit out of him and kicking him out into the garden for a couple of hours. I think I managed to sufficiently scare the cr@p out of him as he hid behind the trees the whole time.

dave_s13 said:

My descritption of his physical punishment was watered down. It kinda got to the stage where my wife had to stop me from permanamtly damaging the little sod.

dave_s13 said:

No I am a big man - literally.

FFS whe you have 2 dogs attached to each other (or 1 dog attached to your misses)
then please post how you reasonably managed to get them to stop fighting without resorting to extreme physical violence.

I've reasonably managed to separate two, and on a couple of occasions 3 fighting dogs. Lots of ways to do so without resorting to 'lamping the living st' out of an animal. A pan of water will snap them out of it 9/10, they can be pulled apart by the collars (not ideal but does work) or pulled away from each other by grabbing the hind legs of one/ both dogs if you have someone to help. I'm not a big man either, I'm a female weighing a tad over 8 stone

[highflyer]

superficial + 1
dave_13 you are not fit to keep animals,
obviously a big guy with a big ego.

Edited by highflyer on Monday 11th February 14:29

[dave_s13]

Superficial said:

Excellent bit of daily mail esque headline grabbng there!!

Says the individual posting on a motoring forum who never seems to venture from subjects relating to cats and fireplaces. I take it you're single?

highflyer said:

superficial + 1
dave_13 you are not fit to keep animals,
obviously a big guy with a big ego.

highflyer said:

anybody cycling on a pavement near to me will get knocked off, any confrontation will be followed up !!

highflyer said:

All the slant eye countries are cruel to all animals, mistakenly believing that animal parts are medicine, I recon we should start eating slant eyes or nuke them.

So says the angry racist.
Woe betide any pavement mounted cyclists of Asian origin that cross your path.

Anyway, Steve was re homed over 3 years ago now. I only updated the thread after a few too many glasses of wine following a final visit to the vets with Pete on Saturday. We found that little scruffy bugger living in the bins (well my wife did - at her work). Took him in and he was with us for 13.5 years. Steve was landed on us out of the blue btw and is still happy as larry with his new family.

Not fit to own a dog, you utter tool. We have had four old mutts over the last 15 years, all rescued, all looked after properly. Not getting another though, working full time and having kids puts your suitability for dog ownership in question.

PH: Character assassination matters.

[CAPP0]

Superficial said:

.....they can be pulled apart by the collars (not ideal but does work).....

.....or pulled away from each other by grabbing the hind legs of one/ both dogs if you have someone to help.

For your future reference, pulling two (or more) dogs who are fighting apart as you describe is entirely the wrong thing to do. If the dog you're pulling decides not to let go of the other dog then all you are going to do is either bring the second dog with you, or worse, pull a large lump of the other dog away, attached to Dog 1's jaws.

If you're going to physically separate them you should ALWAYS do this by LIFTING the biting dog; either use it's collar, or it's scruff. The act of lifting will cause the dog to release (usually in surprise). Then, and only then, can you pull the aggressor away.

[wolf1]

Superficial said:

Stuff

Neither the time or the place for it.

[SmoothCriminal]

Fair play to op I don't think I could have that on my conscience rehoming a biter.

[highflyer]

You know dave-s13 living here in what used to be Great Britain now, makes you racist but that is probably another forum and another site.
I Hate any cruelty to any animal,
"Should I shoot my dog" certainly grabbed my attention
"I reacted by lamping the living $hit out of him and kicking him out into the garden for a couple of hours."
"My descritption of his physical punishment was watered down. It kinda got to the stage where my wife had to stop me from permanamtly damaging the little sod."
"Bloody soppy women folk She attributes him with far to many emotions" you obviously don't have any
"I did punch him repeatedly in the face though...
I think I should have drop kicked him into the trees TBH"
"But if there's one more incident of Steve biting someone......caboooom!!! Well no actually he'll go to the vets and be dealt with accordingley" is that after you have repeatedly punched him in the face and drop kicked him into the trees, So there is a chance of him biting again and you re homed him, did you warn the new owners that there is a chance he may bite ? oh what a lovely responsible dog owner you are.

[dave_s13]

highflyer said:

....... So there is a chance of him biting again and you re homed him, did you warn the new owners that there is a chance he may bite ? oh what a lovely responsible dog owner you are.

One condition of them having him was they wouldn't get a second dog. They knew exactly what the score was. Plan b was giving him to a springer spaniel rescue centre, this was already arranged.

If I'm what's making great Britain such a disagreeable place to live in then I'd hate to live round your way.

P's... I'm not Chinese or anything, obv if I was plan c would have involved a spade, some soy sauce and some chopsticks,

Nobber

Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 11th February 17:17

[dave_s13]

Old photo links broken..

Heres Pete BTW



RIP Pete

And killer Steve



He was a beautiful dog, and had a lovely nature, just not alongside Pete!!

As you can see they were both ill treated and in need of help, given I'm a massive and everything