Why do people like deformed dogs?
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Wills2 said:
moorx said:
Where did I say it was okay to breed animals with health problems? If that's your argument, your post is 'calling out' the wrong people. You should be 'calling out' the breeders and Kennel Club, not insulting the owners of these dogs.
The demand is the issue.....buyers are as guilty as the breeders. Amzing that you disconnect the two I wonder why?
It’s not limited to French Bulldogs and Pugs. A lot of pedigree dogs have major hereditary issues as a result of years of inbreeding. It really needs to be regulated to save unnecessary cruelty. A lot of owners will justify it - “they seem so happy”, or “they’re well cared for”, but it’s not the point.
I know I shouldn't get sucked back in, but I really had to respond to the last few posts, which insinuate I support bad breeding (or breeding of any kind).
You really couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. Look at my posting history and you'll see that despite owning 13 dogs, I have never purchased a dog from a breeder in my life. All my dogs have been from rescue centres.
None of the dogs/breeds I have owned have been of types with a history of selective breeding for looks. Of the 13 dogs I've owned, 11 have been sighthounds or sighthound crosses, the other 2 were a staffy cross and a cocker spaniel (the latter an ex-puppy farm bh).
Hope that clears it up.
You really couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. Look at my posting history and you'll see that despite owning 13 dogs, I have never purchased a dog from a breeder in my life. All my dogs have been from rescue centres.
None of the dogs/breeds I have owned have been of types with a history of selective breeding for looks. Of the 13 dogs I've owned, 11 have been sighthounds or sighthound crosses, the other 2 were a staffy cross and a cocker spaniel (the latter an ex-puppy farm bh).
Hope that clears it up.
Boosted LS1 said:
BobsPigeon said:
All domestic dog breeds were bred to please humans in one way or another. I wouldn't fancy a wolf as a pet.
No they weren't. They had jobs to do until in recent times we made them redundant and fashion took over. I'd love to work with a wolf.garythesign said:
This area of Pistonheads used to be such an Oasis of calm.
Is lockdown causing people to be more grumpy, than usual
Probably have a new pup next door barking at all hours so now sits calling them deformed. Calling a dogs life a miserable existence etc etc yet I'm sure than dogs rather happy with its existence and the owner takes good care. Maybe its an attempt to show how they don't follow fashion and there dogs a working dog... that sits at home not working.Is lockdown causing people to be more grumpy, than usual
The reality is that there are a lot of stupid people out there (not saying anyone on here is stupid) who buy their dogs from an ad on Pets4Homes with zero research. The breeders do it because they get £3000 a pop, and the buyers do it because it is easy. Buying a pup from someone reputable takes a lot of effort and time - though interestingly, it is usually a lot cheaper.
IMO the Kennel Club is also a huge problem. They need to alter the breed standards for dogs so that health is put first. A snuffling Bulldog, or a Slopey Back Shepherd should get zero points in the show ring. They need to have a vet on the standards planel.
IMO the Kennel Club is also a huge problem. They need to alter the breed standards for dogs so that health is put first. A snuffling Bulldog, or a Slopey Back Shepherd should get zero points in the show ring. They need to have a vet on the standards planel.
rxe said:
The reality is that there are a lot of stupid people out there (not saying anyone on here is stupid) who buy their dogs from an ad on Pets4Homes with zero research. The breeders do it because they get £3000 a pop, and the buyers do it because it is easy. Buying a pup from someone reputable takes a lot of effort and time - though interestingly, it is usually a lot cheaper.
IMO the Kennel Club is also a huge problem. They need to alter the breed standards for dogs so that health is put first. A snuffling Bulldog, or a Slopey Back Shepherd should get zero points in the show ring. They need to have a vet on the standards planel.
ThisIMO the Kennel Club is also a huge problem. They need to alter the breed standards for dogs so that health is put first. A snuffling Bulldog, or a Slopey Back Shepherd should get zero points in the show ring. They need to have a vet on the standards planel.
The original intention was often to ensure particular breeds didn't die out, that's why the tradition of assessing dogs according to features specific to that breed started. The problem is that this it what lead to the features being exaggerated to the point where the dogs are caricatures of the original.
[quote=rxe]The reality is that there are a lot of stupid people out there (not saying anyone on here is stupid) who buy their dogs from an ad on Pets4Homes with zero research. The breeders do it because they get £3000 a pop, and the buyers do it because it is easy. Buying a pup from someone reputable takes a lot of effort and time - though interestingly, it is usually a lot cheaper.
The above is exactly right . It took me over a year talking to breeders and getting to know them here and in Europe. When I finally got my pup ( Dandie Dinmont Terrier) I was amazed at how low the price was in comparison to the other breeds being advertised, especially for a rare breed. Worth the effort to find a good breeder and the wait.
The above is exactly right . It took me over a year talking to breeders and getting to know them here and in Europe. When I finally got my pup ( Dandie Dinmont Terrier) I was amazed at how low the price was in comparison to the other breeds being advertised, especially for a rare breed. Worth the effort to find a good breeder and the wait.
BobsPigeon said:
Boosted LS1 said:
BobsPigeon said:
All domestic dog breeds were bred to please humans in one way or another. I wouldn't fancy a wolf as a pet.
No they weren't. They had jobs to do until in recent times we made them redundant and fashion took over. I'd love to work with a wolf.Teddy Lop said:
A client of mine has a couple of pugs, I find the way they wheeze and snort quite icky.
Neighbours asked us to walk their puppy yesterday. At the park there was a pug running around. You could hear it’s laboured breathing - like someone having an asthma attack. Made me feel sorry for it. Boosted LS1 said:
BobsPigeon said:
Boosted LS1 said:
BobsPigeon said:
All domestic dog breeds were bred to please humans in one way or another. I wouldn't fancy a wolf as a pet.
No they weren't. They had jobs to do until in recent times we made them redundant and fashion took over. I'd love to work with a wolf.Part of the breed standard should have been 'healthy enough to take on a bull'.
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