China - cruelty to animals

[garos]

Just read (actually scanned over quickly) the Sky news report on the abattoirs in China clubbing dogs, quite distressing so I haven't linked it on purpose.

It got me wondering why this rich country is still so awful when it comes to animal cruelty, it hardly has any legislation on this! Some 10 - 16 million dogs are killed each year. From what i know before, the mass live skinning of animals is not unheard of.

Obviously China has developed in many ways, but way underdeveloped when it comes to this, perhaps the cruelist country in the world for this!

[garos]

205alive said:

The more pain an animal suffers, the more adrenaline is released and supposedly they think the meat tastes better.

How fked up is that.

[garos]

crazy about cars said:

Don't buy products made in China? That'll be a hard one...

What's the difference between eating dog meat compared to say, horse meat? FYI not everyone in China enjoys dog meat same as not everyone enjoys horsemeat. I do agree though that inhumane methods the dog's are subjected to must be stopped.

I think thats the point, these animals are being tortured. I just googled some petition sites (there are many) and read some more stories. I honestly feel physically sick.

[garos]

uk_vette said:

garos said:

Just read (actually scanned over quickly) the Sky news report on the abattoirs in China clubbing dogs, quite distressing so I haven't linked it on purpose.

It got me wondering why this rich country is still so awful when it comes to animal cruelty, it hardly has any legislation on this! Some 10 - 16 million dogs are killed each year. From what i know before, the mass live skinning of animals is not unheard of.

Obviously China has developed in many ways, but way underdeveloped when it comes to this, perhaps the cruelist country in the world for this!

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For your western culture, you don't agree with it, just because you and your western culture dont agree with it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

When I last looked, China is on the other side of the world, in a place called Asia.

Different place, different culture.

Get used to it, and move on.
One of my well to-do friends has some super luxorious fur covers on his car seats.
I didn't need to ask what they were.
But they were very comfortable.

vette

You have no issue with a puppy being skinned alive, you're telling me thats not wrong?

[garos]

Wadeski said:

But the original posts mentions skinning/beating animals (animal treatment), killing dogs (for food? in general?) - which bit are you getting offended by? Or is it a general view that "Chinese are nasty to animals"...which would need a bit more substantiation.

People eat meat and will continue to do so, I have no issue with that, personally I don't eat meat but that is a life choice that suits me. Provision of the meat and care for the animal up to and during slaughter is all important.
The Chinese seem to have no welfare in place in attaining there meat, as pointed out by someone else, the more pain they inflict the better, that seriously shocks me. I wasn't aware of this and i wasn't aware until today that they slaughter something like 16 million dogs anually, some by clubbing. I looked at a petition site today and they have a photo of a puppy being skinned alive.
I posted this up because I think its important that we know whats going on, little will change perhaps, but without knowledge it certainly won't.

[garos]

uk_vette said:

garos said:

I don't eat meat but that is a life choice that suits me.

I knew it, another freaking veggie.

garos said:

I posted this up because I think its important that we know whats going on, little will change perhaps, but without knowledge it certainly won't.

Put into perspective,
The Chinese civilisation has been around about 6000 years
How far back can you go in UK?

So your not going to buy Chinese made stuff.

OK,then don't

vette

Err, is skinning puppies alive wrong?

[garos]

There is at least legislation in this country to protect animals, its not perfect but we are so far ahead of the chinese. Most sites on the web conclude that china is the worst when it comes to animal cruelty, I dont think that all the chinese are cruel, but as a nation, they are.

I am really struggling with the fact that some chinese puposelly inflict the greatest pain as this makes the meat taste better, i mean how can that be acceptable to anyone.

[garos]

grumbledoak said:

Do you struggle with the fact that other people eat meat?
That other people may not share other views you hold?
That you are talking about people half a world away who don't know, will probably never hear, and clearly don't share your views?
On a car forum?

Did you type in the wrong url yesterday?

Didnt think it was restricted to cars, neither do you judging by your recent posting!

[garos]

grumbledoak said:

Oh, it isn't. But your opening post could have saved us a lot of reading with a "tl;dr: Vegetable rights and peace." You certainly aren't going to achieve much change in China by posting here. Most Chinese are a too short of protein to be all

tl;dr

Says it all.