Katie Hopkins - vacuous moron
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After two days, she has over 70,000 followers on a platform nobody has heard of.
anonymous have fleeced each one of them for an average of about 7p..
Surely they would be better off just making a donation of their own money rather than engaging in criminal activity for such small beans..
anonymous have fleeced each one of them for an average of about 7p..
Surely they would be better off just making a donation of their own money rather than engaging in criminal activity for such small beans..
DonkeyApple said:
George Smiley said:
Every day I thank the nation for not letting Corbyn in
I’d certainly opt for bumbling fool over hate filled and driven loon and I’m glad to live in a country that voted as such so conclusively. GreatGranny said:
DonkeyApple said:
George Smiley said:
Every day I thank the nation for not letting Corbyn in
I’d certainly opt for bumbling fool over hate filled and driven loon and I’m glad to live in a country that voted as such so conclusively. Shuvi McTupya said:
George Smiley said:
he is no bumbling fool and I am certain our death rate is somewhat on the over egging side of the coin whereas others are somewhat under reporting.
I totally agree, I just can't see a good reason why they are doing it! Unknown_User said:
George Smiley said:
he is no bumbling fool and I am certain our death rate is somewhat on the over egging side of the coin whereas others are somewhat under reporting.
Can you please provide proof to back up your ludicrous claim?There are 3 stats for you, all put down to C19 as the cause of death - I'd suggest it was just an aggravating factor in their cases. Still, I dont want the disease but the idea that somehow we are far worse hit than anywhere else in europe sees a bit stranger than fiction
George Smiley said:
Unknown_User said:
George Smiley said:
he is no bumbling fool and I am certain our death rate is somewhat on the over egging side of the coin whereas others are somewhat under reporting.
Can you please provide proof to back up your ludicrous claim?There are 3 stats for you, all put down to C19 as the cause of death - I'd suggest it was just an aggravating factor in their cases. Still, I dont want the disease but the idea that somehow we are far worse hit than anywhere else in europe sees a bit stranger than fiction
George Smiley said:
Unknown_User said:
Thank you for your valued contribution and I now understand you are the UK's preeminent medical scientist (and I claim my €5...!).
You're welcome, now f
k off.George Smiley said:
My uncle died from c19 complications which ignores the fact he was way beyond ....
Very sad for your uncle but you ignore one data set that goes against your theory, excess deaths which have nothing to do with whats on the death certificate, not just uk but whole of the world.Europe Excess mortality. Nearly double last year.
Z score for england
It all here maybe read up about it you might actually learn something.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Apologies for thread detraction just have to challenge egregiously wrong opinions.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 23 June 11:00
The Spruce Goose said:
Very sad for your uncle but you ignore one data set that goes against your theory, excess deaths which have nothing to do with whats on the death certificate, not just uk but whole of the world.
Europe Excess mortality. Nearly double last year.
Z score for england
It all here maybe read up about it you might actually learn something.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Apologies for thread detraction just have to challenge egregiously wrong opinions.
Does that not back up his theory?Europe Excess mortality. Nearly double last year.
Z score for england
It all here maybe read up about it you might actually learn something.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
Apologies for thread detraction just have to challenge egregiously wrong opinions.
Edited by The Spruce Goose on Tuesday 23 June 11:00
We have lost thousands 'extra' mainly due to corvid.
other countries have lost thousands extra, due to something that was probably going to kill them even if they didnt catch Corvid.
Similar death counts, just recorded differently.
Or have i completely misunderstood?
Shuvi McTupya said:
We are encouraging theft and fraud, so long as it is done by the left?
Interesting.
Can you please stop implying that Hopkins represents the Right?Interesting.
She's a nasty little bigoted nationalist. Whether the rest of her "thinking" is left or right wing is a total irrelevance.
If you believed in collective pay bargaining and nationalised industry and you're a nationalist and a racial bigot, then you're a left winger and you're knuckle headed bigoted arse.
If you are a free market capitalist and you're a nationalist and a racial bigot, them you're a right winger and you're a knuckle headed bigoted arse.
You keep implying that Hopkins comes in for abuse and gets chucked off social media platforms because she's right wing. Wrong. It's because she's a bigoted arse.
Her opinions are NOT those of a reasonable right winger. And if you share her opinions, don't pretend to yourself that they are just normal right wing opinions. They aren't.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Does that not back up his theory?
We have lost thousands 'extra' mainly due to corvid.
other countries have lost thousands extra, due to something that was probably going to kill them even if they didnt catch Corvid.
Similar death counts, just recorded differently.
Or have i completely misunderstood?
You are exactly right that we've had a lot of extra deaths and I think a lot of people seem to be missing that.We have lost thousands 'extra' mainly due to corvid.
other countries have lost thousands extra, due to something that was probably going to kill them even if they didnt catch Corvid.
Similar death counts, just recorded differently.
Or have i completely misunderstood?
You could look at any death as merely accelerating what was bound to happen at some point; it's always just a question of degree. Baby died 75 years early; bad. 80 year old dies 15 mins early coz doctor whacked up the morphine; good.
I think the issue is that some people are failing to recognise that many of the deaths that have been hastened by Covid19 infection haven't just taken 15 minutes off someone's life expectancy, it's taken years away.
Saying "oh well, he was already ill' about an individual may well be true and comforting to a degree, but when you step back and look at the numbers in aggregate you can see an awful lot of extra deaths have occurred this year even with the measures that have successfully reduced the infection's spread.
It's demonstratively different to the increased death rate caused by "normal" seasonal flus, for example.
Edited by ATG on Tuesday 23 June 12:32
GreatGranny said:
DonkeyApple said:
George Smiley said:
Every day I thank the nation for not letting Corbyn in
I’d certainly opt for bumbling fool over hate filled and driven loon and I’m glad to live in a country that voted as such so conclusively. Just on the grounds of how the UK is structured we were always going to get hit extremely hard. Right from the very beginning it was, and remains, a balance between keeping the money coming in and not overwhelming the NHS and having people dying in the street.
The road map was laid out at the outset. No early lockdown as you can only control a free population for so long and the release would be defined by how many patients the NHS had capacity for.
In many ways it was made pretty clear that the death toll was not relevant. It has been heavily loaded with platitudes but it has always been about keeping people working for as long as possible, minimising the time in lockdown for social unrest reasons and then getting everyone back to work ASAP.
The govt will get all the blame but just like we never like to ask why one hospital is worse than another next door, nor will we ever ask why some care homes were unhit and others decimated.
For those who argue we should have gone into lockdown earlier then there is a failure to fully understand just how long you can keep free people locked up voluntarily. We had a lockdown that worked on the British people being asked to stay in and then choosing to do so. In other countries it had to be done at gun point and others required guns on the street and paperwork to enforce it. Some countries will have snuck in aggressive laws that will be abused later to oppress the people.
Those who say we shouldn’t be coming out of lockdown now arguably don’t fully understand economics.
No one could ever have got it right. Countries that went a different route had different population densities, different levels of overseas arrivals and departures and different types of living accommodation. All in, we’ve been ok (obviously there are very many utter tragedies that many of us have a link to) for a nation of people who move around an awful lot, socialise a huge amount and have at the heart of our country an enormous global metropolis.
And at a time when it is important for everyone to work together, people like Hopkins who aim to tear people apart for financial gain are less palatable than normal.
ATG said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: And why is it every time I see some batst news interview with Farage or Hopkins telling people "how it really is in Britain these days" it seems to be on Sky News Australia? 
What's the problem? It's a penile colony, isn't it?t news interview with Farage or Hopkins telling people "how it really is in Britain these days" it seems to be on Sky News Australia? Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff