Caving, potholing, claustrophobia, etc
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Ok, so more bedtime horror.
Can someone explain what goes through someone's mind a) to get in this position ans b) what goes through it when trying to get back?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9w
Can someone explain what goes through someone's mind a) to get in this position ans b) what goes through it when trying to get back?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9w
silverthorn2151 said:
Ok, so more bedtime horror.
Can someone explain what goes through someone's mind a) to get in this position ans b) what goes through it when trying to get back?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9w
Link for people not on a mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9wCan someone explain what goes through someone's mind a) to get in this position ans b) what goes through it when trying to get back?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9w
Jesus H Christ, nothing would ever persuade me to so much as go near a hole like that.
I've been stuck like that!
Why? Because I'm small and like the squeezey stuff. See above.
I usually go arms first so I can brace to push myself out if necessary. Ah s
t is what I usually think.
That guy was struggling because of his arms at his sides and no traction on the mud, my knee and elbow pads give a wee bit more grip that a slippery caving suit.
Though once your knees are out and bendable, your mates can usually drag you out!!
Why? Because I'm small and like the squeezey stuff. See above.
I usually go arms first so I can brace to push myself out if necessary. Ah s
t is what I usually think. That guy was struggling because of his arms at his sides and no traction on the mud, my knee and elbow pads give a wee bit more grip that a slippery caving suit.
Though once your knees are out and bendable, your mates can usually drag you out!!
Google cave diving accidents. Then you'll get a proper panic attack! Caves, water, depth and MILES from fresh air!
Real men go places where the rescuers won't go to retrieve bodies ;-)
As a keen diver you won't find me cave diving. I don't go into any wrecks unless I can see the way out. Bit of a pussy tbh. Depth ok, but anything overhead freaks me out.
Got chatting to a cave diver at vobster quay diving centre recently. Asked the usual question and was told why not? I suppose they get that all the time.
Real men go places where the rescuers won't go to retrieve bodies ;-)
As a keen diver you won't find me cave diving. I don't go into any wrecks unless I can see the way out. Bit of a pussy tbh. Depth ok, but anything overhead freaks me out.
Got chatting to a cave diver at vobster quay diving centre recently. Asked the usual question and was told why not? I suppose they get that all the time.
BlackVanDyke said:
Link for people not on a mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7F7Rz8I9w
Jesus H Christ, nothing would ever persuade me to so much as go near a hole like that.
I'd sit outside and enjoy the sunshine. Wait for theses to hopefully return.Jesus H Christ, nothing would ever persuade me to so much as go near a hole like that.
I do admire the casual banter of those cavers though. As if a stuck human is a daily occurrence. I'd love to cave, but not like that. Imagine the panic of the stuck caver in a slowly rising flood. You need to check the weather... Not today's weather, but what the weather was doing 3 days ago, to avoid the water. The fact it was muddy indicates that squeeze floods.
On the banks with a sandwich. You'd not find me in there.
MrsThatcher said:
Google cave diving accidents. Then you'll get a proper panic attack! Caves, water, depth and MILES from fresh air!
Real men go places where the rescuers won't go to retrieve bodies ;-)
As a keen diver you won't find me cave diving. I don't go into any wrecks unless I can see the way out. Bit of a pussy tbh. Depth ok, but anything overhead freaks me out.
Got chatting to a cave diver at vobster quay diving centre recently. Asked the usual question and was told why not? I suppose they get that all the time.
I remember reading about a cave diver who got lost/ran out of air and ended his days in the dark, alone, the wrong side of a big underwater lake in a new cave system, apparently he had gone 'obviously insane' waiting to die, given what was left when his body was found. Can anyone remember who that was?Real men go places where the rescuers won't go to retrieve bodies ;-)
As a keen diver you won't find me cave diving. I don't go into any wrecks unless I can see the way out. Bit of a pussy tbh. Depth ok, but anything overhead freaks me out.
Got chatting to a cave diver at vobster quay diving centre recently. Asked the usual question and was told why not? I suppose they get that all the time.
This place, and the stories associated with it are also one of the reasons i don't like caving OR scuba diving: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boesmansgat
prand said:
I remember reading about a cave diver who got lost/ran out of air and ended his days in the dark, alone, the wrong side of a big underwater lake in a new cave system, apparently he had gone 'obviously insane' waiting to die, given what was left when his body was found. Can anyone remember who that was?
That was a young man called Peter Verhusel. He disappeared on 29/9/84 & his body was found six weeks later.Marks were found on the walls where he had tried to alert the rescuers to his presence and he had left a message for his family before his light failed.
When he passed away he'd lost 20kgs in weight and had three weeks of beard growth.
Some 25+ years ago, my then employer sent me and my colleagues on an extreme team building course.
We were in the black mountains in Wales and were going Pot Holing.
It started at midnight, probably to properly set the scene. We where led into a cave and we followed the instructor for 10 mins until we reached what looked like a dead end.
He then gave us a bit of a talk and said “it starts here”. Where ? It really was a dead end. He pointed to a small hole which he referred to as a “letter box” which looked smaller than a person could get through and then proceeded to literally post everyone through this hole. I don’t think we could have got through without being pushed.
After being pushed through through letter box we landed in a small waist high flooded sump which was freezing. There looked like no way out. The instructer then told us we had to hold our breath and go under water, pass under a submerged archway and onto the next chamber.
We continued like this for around 3 hours. I’m sure Elf & Safty wouldn’t allow that on a training course today.
None of my colleagues wanted to admit it at the time but eveyone was stting it. By the end a few where it tears. Most were shaking from the cold. It was an experience to remember.
The people that do this kind of thing for fun, are made of strong stuff. Specially the ones that do the underwater stuff. Respect to them.
We were in the black mountains in Wales and were going Pot Holing.
It started at midnight, probably to properly set the scene. We where led into a cave and we followed the instructor for 10 mins until we reached what looked like a dead end.
He then gave us a bit of a talk and said “it starts here”. Where ? It really was a dead end. He pointed to a small hole which he referred to as a “letter box” which looked smaller than a person could get through and then proceeded to literally post everyone through this hole. I don’t think we could have got through without being pushed.
After being pushed through through letter box we landed in a small waist high flooded sump which was freezing. There looked like no way out. The instructer then told us we had to hold our breath and go under water, pass under a submerged archway and onto the next chamber.
We continued like this for around 3 hours. I’m sure Elf & Safty wouldn’t allow that on a training course today.
None of my colleagues wanted to admit it at the time but eveyone was s
tting it. By the end a few where it tears. Most were shaking from the cold. It was an experience to remember.The people that do this kind of thing for fun, are made of strong stuff. Specially the ones that do the underwater stuff. Respect to them.
Edited by Exige77 on Saturday 14th October 05:33
kowalski655 said:
What kind of employer would do that?!
And what would they have done if you had said no?
Personally,I would have taken 1 look at the letter box and just gone home
It was supposed to put us all in a potentially dangerous / stressful situation to see how we could work as a team to get through it. And what would they have done if you had said no?
Personally,I would have taken 1 look at the letter box and just gone home
We knew we were going into a cave but had no idea what really lay ahead. It was a famous Japanese company.
Exige77 said:
It was supposed to put us all in a potentially dangerous / stressful situation to see how we could work as a team to get through it.
We knew we were going into a cave but had no idea what really lay ahead. It was a famous Japanese company.
Yes, definitly, all secretaries and personal assistants need this team building at least once a year....... We knew we were going into a cave but had no idea what really lay ahead. It was a famous Japanese company.
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