Smoking

[bodhi]

carlo996 said:

bodhi said:

Your hysteria is, yes.

It’s not hysteria. Anyone involved with dope, the supply or promotion is a .

It's hysteria based on a complete lack of understanding on how people purchase weed these days - however as this thread is about cigarettes I'll not go into it now.

On topic I was at a conference a couple of weeks ago in Denver, with over 600 people from all over the world. The militant anti-smokers will be happy to know there was only ever about 10 of us out in the smoking area at most , with about half vaping. Strangely when we finished the sessions and went to the evening entertainment where beer was served, that number went up by quite a lot.

[carlo996]

bodhi said:

It's hysteria based on a complete lack of understanding on how people purchase weed these days - however as this thread is about cigarettes I'll not go into it now.

On topic I was at a conference a couple of weeks ago in Denver, with over 600 people from all over the world. The militant anti-smokers will be happy to know there was only ever about 10 of us out in the smoking area at most , with about half vaping. Strangely when we finished the sessions and went to the evening entertainment where beer was served, that number went up by quite a lot.

Cool story.

[FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive]

carlo996 said:

bodhi said:

Your hysteria is, yes.

It’s not hysteria. Anyone involved with dope, the supply or promotion is a .

Dope is heroin, is it not? Not cannabis.

[stupidbutkeen]

I give up last tuesday after seeing a consultant who told me i may have cancerous cells in my tonsils ( Booked in on the 25th to get them out and a biopsy to check, already had a ct scan on them and the lungs)

Smoked roll ups for over 35 years morn to night and everyone of those smokes had dope/green in them.

As soon as I heard the word cancer I literally said thats it and am going cold turkey but after the 1st week i feel good and dont miss it ( to much)

But I can sleep without snoring I can walk without sweating I can already taste and smell things I never could before oh and will save around £500 pm which will pay for the S3 I bought.

Sometimes its hard to admit you have been a prat but here I am . Just need to find a new hobby to keep the hands and mind busy.

[FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive]

bodhi said:

carlo996 said:

bodhi said:

Your hysteria is, yes.

It’s not hysteria. Anyone involved with dope, the supply or promotion is a .

It's hysteria based on a complete lack of understanding on how people purchase weed these days - however as this thread is about cigarettes I'll not go into it now.

On topic I was at a conference a couple of weeks ago in Denver, with over 600 people from all over the world. The militant anti-smokers will be happy to know there was only ever about 10 of us out in the smoking area at most , with about half vaping. Strangely when we finished the sessions and went to the evening entertainment where beer was served, that number went up by quite a lot.

Interesting isn't it - how nobody bats an eye when alcohol is consumed. But cannabis? Omg the world is going to pot (pun intended)!

Some of the latest studies have found that psychosis is not caused by cannabis use - it merely brings the illness to the surface if you are genetically predisposed to it. Also, did you guys know that there's a substance that has a much bigger effect on rates of psychosis? It's called tobacco. Yet both tobacco and alcohol and legal despite killing upwards of 21k people per year in the UK - each - as of 2021. Cannabis? Not a single person in history has died from taking too much cannabis. They may have a bad time, but they don't die from it.

Furthermore, the talk over the last page or two has been about the strength of cannabis - most strains available for private prescription are between 18-27%. The highest strain is 30%. In Europe, some countries have cannabis up to 50%. And Sativex - available on the NHS for prescription - is made from Skunk #3 at 30% THC. Where are all the psychosis patients as a result then? A recent study in Canada has found that the rates of psychosis have not shot up or down, but stayed flat, as more people have turned to cannabis.

A lot of hysteria surrounding cannabis is wholly unjustified. Apply the same criticisms to alcohol, tobacco etc and then give Prof David Nutt's book regarding cannabis a read and realise it doesn't have to be this way.

Regarding scum bag dealers forcing people to hand over benefit money etc - I'm sure that does happen but the best way to protect consumers and those within the local communities is to legalised regulate and tax it. We did it for coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco etc so why not all drugs?

Why such opposition to cannabis?

[popeyewhite]

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

carlo996 said:

bodhi said:

Your hysteria is, yes.

It’s not hysteria. Anyone involved with dope, the supply or promotion is a .

Dope is heroin, is it not? Not cannabis.

We called dope hash. Er we called hash dope/smoke. Anyway I smoked too much of the stuff. It's called 'smoking dope' isn't it?

[nismocat]

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

Why such opposition to cannabis?

Compared to fags you won't look like a and be socially ostracized. I know lots of weed smokers and once they have a few spliffs their brains are mush.

Plus they usually go on about weed laws and how it should be legal blah blah blah, 420 etc etc. Yawn.
They are like vegans in that sense.

Alcohol on the other hand is more socially acceptable, always has been and always will be. Far more people drink than smoke weed.

[105.4]

Yes. Around 40-50 per day. Rollies, (Amber Leaf).

And yes, I too have noticed a steep decline in the number of smokers over the last few years.

[NNK]

Smoking is alive and well in the South Pacific.
Ready rolled for ex pats and home grown rolled in newspaper for locals in Fiji & Tonga.

Plenty of weed around too if Carlo996 is thinking of relocating

[NDA]

blingybongy said:

So, do you still smoke?

Not any more.

I was a heavy smoker - it was the only thing I did really well... I worked in an era where you smoked in the office, restaurants, the bus, the train - wherever you wanted. I loved smoking and bought cartons of 200 Marlboro and got through 3 packs a day. Most people smoked, or at least seemed to.

When I had heart surgery, my surgeon said 'it's time to give up'. So I did. Thankfully vaping arrived and I vaped - not the huge clouds/weather systems, but a small vape when the urge kicked in.

I am quite often offered a cigar at various events, but never give in - I haven't smoked in around 10 years. I don't miss it.

[g3org3y]

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

carlo996 said:

bodhi said:

Your hysteria is, yes.

It’s not hysteria. Anyone involved with dope, the supply or promotion is a .

Dope is heroin, is it not? Not cannabis.

In UK dope = cannabis.
In US dope = heroin.

[dontlookdown]

I smoked in my 20s, about 10 a day. I enjoyed it, one of the great things about being young (at least in pre-internet days) was not having to worry about the consequences/optics of every single thing you did and decision you took.

The only thing I miss about it is the gossip. I always knew the latest office scandal because there is a camaraderie amongst smokers when you are huddled out in the loading bay (or wherever the smoking area is) that encourages shared confidences.

[uk66fastback]

Similar to NDA here - but 20 a day for most of the last 35 years of doing it. Started at 13, nicking the odd Players No.6 from my mum’s handbag. What seemed normal 25 years ago - smoking everywhere, in a shop, in the office, the car, at home etc just seems really strange now.

I’d never smoke another, having given up 15 years ago … I see people my age (60+) still smoking and I just want to stub them out at their feet there and then … no-one ever got healthier having a fag.

[Mont Blanc]

It amazes me that anyone still smokes, given the insane price of tobacco these days.

I have had a quick add up, based on our weekly consumption, and myself an my wife probably spend about £1000 a year each on alcohol, but someone who smokes 20 a day will easily spend £5000 a year by themselves, and you have to bear in mind that is on top of whatever they spend on alcohol.

nismocat said:

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

Why such opposition to cannabis?

Compared to fags you won't look like a and be socially ostracized. I know lots of weed smokers and once they have a few spliffs their brains are mush.

Plus they usually go on about weed laws and how it should be legal blah blah blah, 420 etc etc. Yawn.
They are like vegans in that sense.

Alcohol on the other hand is more socially acceptable, always has been and always will be. Far more people drink than smoke weed.

Something being socially acceptable or not is completely irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is the potential to cause harm.

I have never smoked cigarettes or weed/cannabis, and have no desire to, but I cannot understand why anyone would think it was anymore harmful than alcohol.

There are a huge number of health issues that are caused by alcohol, it kills over 20,000 people a year in the UK, causes 250 people a year to be killed by drunk driving, and contributes to a further 4500 car accidents a year. Not to mention a massive amount of mental health, domestic violence, and child neglect issues.

I say all this as someone who drinks alcohol regularly and enjoys it, but I am under no illusion that it is somehow 'better' than smoking weed. It just happens to be legal.

Alcohol has been proven to be more addictive than weed, by quite some margin.

If we were honest about it, the fact that alcohol is socially acceptable is actually one of the things that masks many of the problems. Getting drunk is seen as 'having a good time' rather than a sign of someone who can't control what they consume and has potentially put themselves at risk of harm or physical injury. It means that middle class people like me and my wife can go to a nice restaurant with our young kids, on a Saturday afternoon, have a few glasses of wine, and everyone thinks its all nice and jolly, but if we were sat taking drugs or getting high whilst looking after our kids, then everyone would think we were the absolute scum of the earth.

It one affect me one jot, but I personally think weed should be legal and regulated.

Edited by Mont Blanc on Wednesday 13th March 08:39

[bazza white]

Gave up 14 years ago. Was an early vape adapter. Hated it towards the end never looked back. Knocked the nicotine on the head a few years ago and it's been a natural decline without trying.

Mum still smokes 20 a day and my brother who vapes pinches the occasional one off her. It's something I've never understood as the taste is rank when you're not a regular smoker. Think mum will smoke til the end of her days. Can't get her on vapes and can't seem to quit. My nan/her mum lasted to late 70s as a heavy smoker so she may get lucky.

[wildoliver]

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

Why such opposition to cannabis?

It stinks.

It's smoked recreationally by losers / scumbags / pain in the arse conspiracy theorists / either makes or brings to the surface people who insist on telling you it's not harmful / doesn't cause xyz, should be legalised, in other words makes you as annoying as a vegan having to talk about something no-one else is interested in. Weed smokers are without exception in my reasonably broad experience all convinced they are deep thinkers and open minded intellectuals. Yet to any outsider they have the intellectual ability of a strawberry mousse.

It stinks.

[ARHarh]

wildoliver said:

FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:

Why such opposition to cannabis?

It stinks.

It's smoked recreationally by losers / scumbags / pain in the arse conspiracy theorists / either makes or brings to the surface people who insist on telling you it's not harmful / doesn't cause xyz, should be legalised, in other words makes you as annoying as a vegan having to talk about something no-one else is interested in. Weed smokers are without exception in my reasonably broad experience all convinced they are deep thinkers and open minded intellectuals. Yet to any outsider they have the intellectual ability of a strawberry mousse.

It stinks.

I think that probably says more about the people willing to interact with you than it does about people who smoke dope.

[honest_delboy]

I never really smoked to any great extent , a pack on a night out , socially bum a few cigs when drinking etc .

Now i'm hooked on vapes since about 18 months ago, the little coloured ones everyone hates.

I'll hand in my PH pass, its been nice knowing you all

[BrownEaredDog]

November 7th 2019, 19:03. I was standing on my balcony having a smoke and - for whatever reason - thought "fk this for a lark", put the ciggie out, screwed up the rest of the pack and binned them. I haven't once thought about smoking since, but I do miss packing a pipe occasionally.

Unlike some other ex-smokers that I know I don't mind cigarette smoke at all - rather that than some disgustingly sweet vape smell

Edit: How much does a pack of smokes cost in the UK now? I seem to remember my mate Andy and I buying 10 Embassy from our corner shop for 20-odd pence back in the early 1980s? My son tells me that a pack of 20 costs ~65 DKK here.

Edited by BrownEaredDog on Friday 15th March 19:48

[Kuwahara]

Still love the smell of when someone lights up initially,would never go back though..