What should we aim for as a society?
Discussion
I do not think we need to aim for anything, society will fix itself, racism will dissolve in a few generations, when you see kids in schools now there is no race, it will always exist in a minor way to a point.
I am not a fan of the gender wars that is going on I think this is very unnecessary, it will suit some people and I hope that eventually it is a phase, but I fear not.
War will always happen if capitalism exists and America exists as greed is the prime mover of this, and it will also never go away with the thousands of religions that abound. I hope one day that every place rejects religion as some places like the UK have.
I am hopeful that one day there will be a massive natural disaster, such as a giant tsunami or something that will level thousands of km of land, force a rethink a reset, as right now there is not enough will in the world to force environmental change there is too much money to be made from oil and other things, people will not accept the changes to flying, travel to make it happen they will dip into it, until a huge disaster hits.
I am not a fan of the gender wars that is going on I think this is very unnecessary, it will suit some people and I hope that eventually it is a phase, but I fear not.
War will always happen if capitalism exists and America exists as greed is the prime mover of this, and it will also never go away with the thousands of religions that abound. I hope one day that every place rejects religion as some places like the UK have.
I am hopeful that one day there will be a massive natural disaster, such as a giant tsunami or something that will level thousands of km of land, force a rethink a reset, as right now there is not enough will in the world to force environmental change there is too much money to be made from oil and other things, people will not accept the changes to flying, travel to make it happen they will dip into it, until a huge disaster hits.
Everyone feels they can trust other people (of all backgrounds) by default.
Everyone feels they have a moral duty to contribute where they can.
Society feels a moral duty to look after those who need support and help.
Everyone can feel that leaders are decent people who are acting in society's best interests above their own (even if they disagree with the details of a policy).
Education and expertise are valued and all aspire to this (for themselves and their children).
Technological progress is seen as an opportunity and society empowers people to take advantage of this.
Society respects that people want to feel secure and helps people have secure, high quality homes and long term secure jobs near their families and friends.
Arts and cultural activites (both elitist and egalitarian) are supported by society to allow people to lead balanced and fulfilled lives.
Newcomers are welcomed and given the support they need to integrate.
Everyone feels they have a moral duty to contribute where they can.
Society feels a moral duty to look after those who need support and help.
Everyone can feel that leaders are decent people who are acting in society's best interests above their own (even if they disagree with the details of a policy).
Education and expertise are valued and all aspire to this (for themselves and their children).
Technological progress is seen as an opportunity and society empowers people to take advantage of this.
Society respects that people want to feel secure and helps people have secure, high quality homes and long term secure jobs near their families and friends.
Arts and cultural activites (both elitist and egalitarian) are supported by society to allow people to lead balanced and fulfilled lives.
Newcomers are welcomed and given the support they need to integrate.
Some countries seem to have found the secret to a fair
and decent Society, where hard work and talent is
rewarded, low unemployment,
low crime, high standard of living, and long life expectancy.
Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, the Scandic countries used to have it
up to a few years ago,
and decent Society, where hard work and talent is
rewarded, low unemployment,
low crime, high standard of living, and long life expectancy.
Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, the Scandic countries used to have it
up to a few years ago,
hole , it's not difficult .Kerniki said:
richhead said:
How about we just be nice to each other, or is that too much to ask
Eh? we have primal instinct, or are people unaware of this or maybe think its not relevant to them because of learnt social reasoning?
Between stimulus and response is the decision…
Stuart70 said:
Kerniki said:
richhead said:
How about we just be nice to each other, or is that too much to ask
Eh? we have primal instinct, or are people unaware of this or maybe think its not relevant to them because of learnt social reasoning?
Between stimulus and response is the decision…
Self control and discipline are the main reasons re-shaping will never work, for many people 9not all) that means primal instinct IS the driving force.
their actions then effect others abilities to discipline and control those primal drives, so on and so forth..
Which is why when they make films about ‘utopian’ living they ‘try’ to eradicate all the primal urges in an attempt to control society, which is impossible of course.
Kerniki said:
Never said it did, between stimulus and response is the issue.
Self control and discipline are the main reasons re-shaping will never work, for many people 9not all) that means primal instinct IS the driving force.
their actions then effect others abilities to discipline and control those primal drives, so on and so forth..
Which is why when they make films about ‘utopian’ living they ‘try’ to eradicate all the primal urges in an attempt to control society, which is impossible of course.
I think you may be conflating utopian and dystopian societies. A “utopian” society that controls society is a form of dystopia. A true utopia would not require such controls.Self control and discipline are the main reasons re-shaping will never work, for many people 9not all) that means primal instinct IS the driving force.
their actions then effect others abilities to discipline and control those primal drives, so on and so forth..
Which is why when they make films about ‘utopian’ living they ‘try’ to eradicate all the primal urges in an attempt to control society, which is impossible of course.
When a president or PM or King/queen declares war on a another country the rule should be
the president (or other above) and their family (no age restriction, toddler or pensioner) would with the help of several assistants be driven to the head of the queue of soldiers at a border, provided with guns and be told “your idea, off you go then, we’re right behind you”.
the president (or other above) and their family (no age restriction, toddler or pensioner) would with the help of several assistants be driven to the head of the queue of soldiers at a border, provided with guns and be told “your idea, off you go then, we’re right behind you”.
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