Marriage is Over....

Marriage is Over....

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Mr Wolf

252 posts

139 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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It's so sad to read all these stories.

Personally, If the one I loved were ever unfaithful I would find it impossible to 'work though' things. A relationship is based on trust and once that trust has gone then any further attempts to make it work are set to fail.


singlecoil

34,113 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Mr Wolf said:
A relationship is based on trust and once that trust has gone then any further attempts to make it work are set to fail.
Is it? I daresay some relationships are, but not necessarily all of them.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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singlecoil said:
Mr Wolf said:
A relationship is based on trust and once that trust has gone then any further attempts to make it work are set to fail.
Is it? I daresay some relationships are, but not necessarily all of them.
A sustainable relationship is based on trust.

Huff

3,177 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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+1 to that. Everything hinges upon it. With trust anything becomes possible; without, nothing.

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

160 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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And trust is never fully regained. However much people pretend. Ever.

Hasbeen

2,073 posts

223 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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OP if she doesn't want you now, she is even less likely to want you in a year or five.

The first affair is hard to start, the next is easier, as are all the rest, This one will not be her last, weather she is with you, or someone else.

If you like being a patsy, go for it, stay around to be kicked.

If not, stop faffing around, & start the rest of your life today.

Mr Wolf

252 posts

139 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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whoami said:
singlecoil said:
Mr Wolf said:
A relationship is based on trust and once that trust has gone then any further attempts to make it work are set to fail.
Is it? I daresay some relationships are, but not necessarily all of them.
A sustainable relationship is based on trust.
Trust is the binding force that holds a strong relationship together. No matter how many other common interests, opinions, values and desires are shared, if you cannot fully trust your wife/husband absolutely 100% then it's going to come apart at some point, or be unfulfilling at least.

I trust my wife 100%, we talk about everything openly and honestly and in 8 years of marriage we have not had one single row. Without that unconditional trust we give eachother then I'm not sure it could work. If one of use ruined that trust by shagging about then our whole relationship would be ruined no matter how upset or remorseful we were.

OP - you need to make your own mind up mate. There are lots of opinions here but you need to look deep into your mind and do what you feel is right, not what we tell you is/was right for us.

Good luck.



TwigtheWonderkid

43,824 posts

152 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Zoobeef said:
And trust is never fully regained. However much people pretend. Ever.
That being the case, how come so many people manage to rebuild relationships and stay happily together for ever more?

The most depressing thing about this thread is the warped mentality of many of the posters, who assume to know what definitely applies to the whole of humanity based upon what happened to them.

Hence we end up with the ludicrous assertion that every woman is an SWT. 3.5 billion individual people tried and convicted based on the fact that their partner cheated on them!

Different thing work for different people. Relationships can be rebuilt, but it's not for everyone. Everybody is different.

PD9

2,000 posts

187 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Whatever you do, do not text the little rat. A text is something that can be kept and if you decide to go round and leather this chap a text is something that really won't help you out. Surprise him.

And sorry to hear about this situation, build a wall, block your emotions for her and kick the dirty bh out - do not cuddle the women that has hurt you this much. In the long run she will definitely regret her decision to have a little 'fun'.


happychap

531 posts

150 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
That being the case, how come so many people manage to rebuild relationships and stay happily together for ever more?

The most depressing thing about this thread is the warped mentality of many of the posters, who assume to know what definitely applies to the whole of humanity based upon what happened to them.

Hence we end up with the ludicrous assertion that every woman is an SWT. 3.5 billion individual people tried and convicted based on the fact that their partner cheated on them!

Different thing work for different people. Relationships can be rebuilt, but it's not for everyone. Everybody is different.
I would agree with this. In my experience and belief, life is a process that we learn from and adapt too. As you have pointed out, we are all entitled to live our lives in the way we see fit and to make decision that feel right. Having said that a decision made now can be changed later on as the process moves on.

lambosagogo

256 posts

146 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Different thing work for different people. Relationships can be rebuilt, but it's not for everyone. Everybody is different.
Perhaps what this thread needs is a few posters who can state that their OH lied to and cheated on them but that they forgave them and moved on with the relationship in a happy way. That would probably give some balance to the proceedings.

s p a c e m a n

10,834 posts

150 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
3.5 billion individual people tried and convicted based on the fact that their partner cheated on them!
I think that the main point is why would you bother with someone who is a proven cheater when there are that many other people on the planet? I can be good friends with them and completely trust them with other parts of my life but I wouldn't knowingly date one.

It's like going into business with someone who you knew had stolen off of their last employment or lending your car to a scammer, but it's OK because I've known them for years and they wont do it to me. Yeah it might turn out alright, but imho opinion you're an idiot if you try it.

Dixie68

3,091 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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lambosagogo said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Different thing work for different people. Relationships can be rebuilt, but it's not for everyone. Everybody is different.
Perhaps what this thread needs is a few posters who can state that their OH lied to and cheated on them but that they forgave them and moved on with the relationship in a happy way. That would probably give some balance to the proceedings.
I've posted this on another thread. The strongest relationship I know is a mate and his wife who split up in the 80s because she not only went off with a previous boyfriend but moved him into the marital home with her and my mate's baby, (my mate was working away from home for months). They stayed friendly for the sake of their kid but both went on with their lives. Fast forward about a year and they got back together and have been happily married since, with more kids and a very good life - over twenty years. Admittedly this is the only couple I know who have made it work, but to say it is impossible is wrong.

PD9

2,000 posts

187 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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On a side note OP. Your A6 is looking absolutely stunning, ideal setup and fantastic job on the paint. Bringing up grey like that is difficult! wink

Monkeylegend

26,689 posts

233 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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A note of caution OP. Be very careful re thinking you have reached an amicable agreement re splitting assets. When your wife finally realises the marriage is definitely over don't be surprised if she goes all legal on you. I can say this from experience, it will pay you to take some legal advice irrespective of an amicable final agreement.

Assets like pension funds and property have a habit of attracting interest from soon to be ex wives at the most inconvienient moments, even after divorce.





Edited by Monkeylegend on Sunday 6th January 16:24

goldblum

10,272 posts

169 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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PD9 said:
On a side note OP. Your A6 is looking absolutely stunning, ideal setup and fantastic job on the paint. Bringing up grey like that is difficult! wink
Quite. And particularly sad as he'll soon be selling it to raise funds when his soon-to-be-ex-wife tries to take him to the cleaners.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

268 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Monkeylegend said:
A note of caution OP. Be very careful re thinking you have reached an amicable agreement re splitting assets. When your wife finally realises the marriage is definitely over don't be surprised if she goes all legal on you. I can say this from experience, it will pay you to take some legal advice irrespective of an amicable final agreement.

Assets like pension funds and property have a habit of attracting interest from soon to be ex wives at the most inconvienient moments, even after divorce.





Edited by Monkeylegend on Sunday 6th January 16:24
^^^^ This, with boots on.

poprock

1,985 posts

203 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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I’m not sure how the English laws are, but here in Scotland we have a level of sensible protection available in this situation.

I went through something similar about 15/16 months ago. When I told my o/h that she’d driven the final nail into the marriage’s coffin and had a divorce to look forward to, we tried to keep it all amicable.

In Scots law you can do a ‘Simple Divorce’, which amounts to living apart for a year and then filling in a form. The court charge just over a hundred quid for this. In the interim year, you can be legally ‘Separated’ - it’s a legal status, just like ‘Single’ or ‘Married’. We found a friendly solicitor and wrote up a brief agreement stating that all financial matters etc had been agreed amicably and listing what they were. It stated that we each relinquished any claim to anything further from the other party and that was that. Job jobbed, as they say.

I’d recommend this to any splitting couple who are at the start of the process and still talking to each other. Put your informal agreement in writing, with the help of a solicitor. Get it on record. Make it binding. It protects both of you against future arguments, mental instabilities, etc … and when kids are involved it’s probably even more helpful. Even if a nasty divorce lawyer can campaign to overturn it, it shows a judge exactly how sensible you were on day one.

Moving on with your life can be difficult if you perpetually have to worry on some level about not upsetting an ex from years ago.

TackleburyUk

493 posts

192 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Sorry Op.


fatboy69

9,376 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Having been down the 'fked up marriage' route myself (i was playing away, for various reasons, so I was the guilty party I'm ashamed to say) try to stay on friendly terms for the sake of the children.

And whatever you do try to avoid the fools at the Child Support Agency, or whatever they call themselves these days, getting involved as they will only make things ten times worse.

I was paying my ex a monthly sum agreed by our Solicitors. Until the CSA got involved that is.

They decided that the sum I had been paying wasn't enough by their reckoning so I had to make up 'back payments' going back 4 years.

I had to find another £15k on top on what I had already paid which almost bankrupted me. When I was 2 days late with a cheque, I was in hospital having my leg & knee rebuilt after a serious road accident, they slapped an attachment of earnings order against my salary.

Without actually bothering to tell me beforehand.......

A marriage break up is never easy whatever the circumstances so whatever decisions you make be certain they are being made for the correct reasons.

IMO the children should come first. I didn't see mine for quite a while, understandably, & my youngest daughter still hasn't forgiven me after almost 12 years.

Cannot add anything else as I'm 'on the other side' so too speak.

Just do the right thing for you & the children.