Petty vandalism from youths
Discussion
My front door is right on the street and every day for months a group of girls aged about 12ish would bang on the door and run off. This got more and more annoying as it always set my dog off barking, but what could I do? Even if I caught them I couldn't hit young girls and if I did I'd be the bad person, I'd get done by the police, and I know that it would've just spurred them on to do it more.
So... one day when I was walking the dog I saw two of them go into a house a few streets away and the next time they knocked and ran at my house I took a leisurely stroll over to theirs, knocked, and told the adult who answered, (their dad I assume), that every time it happened again I'd be round theirs to knock on their door. It never happened again.
Having said that though, I'd have been stuffed if the dad was a gorilla and I doubt it would work with kids the age the OP is talking about. I support the police but to me this is exactly the reason why we have PCSOs - they should be used to stop incidents like the OPs if proper police officers can't be spared.
So... one day when I was walking the dog I saw two of them go into a house a few streets away and the next time they knocked and ran at my house I took a leisurely stroll over to theirs, knocked, and told the adult who answered, (their dad I assume), that every time it happened again I'd be round theirs to knock on their door. It never happened again.
Having said that though, I'd have been stuffed if the dad was a gorilla and I doubt it would work with kids the age the OP is talking about. I support the police but to me this is exactly the reason why we have PCSOs - they should be used to stop incidents like the OPs if proper police officers can't be spared.
Doniger said:
Abduct one.
Kill it.
As a message to its peers, deposit remains in a public place where they are likely to find it.
If irritation persists, repeat until cured.
(The above is intended as a tongue-in-cheek joke. This poster does not advocate violence of any description and can take no responsibility for anyone carrying out the above actions, or for the consequences thereof.
Although you gotta admit, it'd work).
Perhaps nailed to a cross?Kill it.
As a message to its peers, deposit remains in a public place where they are likely to find it.
If irritation persists, repeat until cured.
(The above is intended as a tongue-in-cheek joke. This poster does not advocate violence of any description and can take no responsibility for anyone carrying out the above actions, or for the consequences thereof.
Although you gotta admit, it'd work).
Again.... I know of a young thief who was caught by his victims and tied naked to a lamp post on a main road with padlocked chains
911motorsport said:
If you do decide to take matters into your hands and things spiral out of control do NOT pretend to be a policeman, as when the real police turn up unexpectedly this could get extremely embarassing for you. Especially if the police won't back your story up, even though you're winking at them 
Edited by 911motorsport on Wednesday 1st December 16:10
Edit, I do like the pre-teeth visit and the replica gun idea.
Edited by Halb on Wednesday 1st December 20:04
I am the kind of person who would confront them and then goad them into attempting to attack. Not because I am some ultra tough internet Ninja just because in 99% of cases they will bottle it and walk away.
Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
Chris_w666 said:
I am the kind of person who would confront them and then goad them into attempting to attack. Not because I am some ultra tough internet Ninja just because in 99% of cases they will bottle it and walk away.
Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
Madness! Have you got any family?Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
I doubt the odds would be as good as 99:1. Is it worth even a 10% chance of a mob kicking to test your predictive skills? Just look at the local crime reports let alone the national high profile cases of scumbags maiming or killing the innocent.
If you go to confront a mob, go in a mob imho.
had a similar problem in my area a few years back. in fact according to the police i was one of the "problem youths"...
they set up a unit of police whos job it was to literally do nothing but drive around Strood telling us all to "move on"... didn't say where too, but just anywhere but wherever we were...
my group of mates in general were not the problem, but there was kids (14-18) that were. and i suppose to frightened little old ladies we all looked the same; at the time it p1ssed me off no end and it was probably police harrassment (especially the "what you doing round here" when i was going into a chip shop to buy food) but thinking back i can see why people would be scared of us, even though we were harmless...
the police would come round, take all our names and say "move on", so we would go to the sports field, "move on", so we would go to the shops, different police, "move on", so we would go up the woods wwhich happens to be near the HS1 rail link, this time British Transport Police would say "move on", Medway Police would return; you catch my drift.
eventually we got the hump and just didnt bother anymore, which coincided with us all getting jobs and cars (generally having s
t to do) and discovering "the pub"...
maybe that is the solution... 16 is a crap age because you can't actually go anywhere to see your mates. if you go outside your all criminals but can't go to the pub because your not old enough...
they set up a unit of police whos job it was to literally do nothing but drive around Strood telling us all to "move on"... didn't say where too, but just anywhere but wherever we were...
my group of mates in general were not the problem, but there was kids (14-18) that were. and i suppose to frightened little old ladies we all looked the same; at the time it p1ssed me off no end and it was probably police harrassment (especially the "what you doing round here" when i was going into a chip shop to buy food) but thinking back i can see why people would be scared of us, even though we were harmless...
the police would come round, take all our names and say "move on", so we would go to the sports field, "move on", so we would go to the shops, different police, "move on", so we would go up the woods wwhich happens to be near the HS1 rail link, this time British Transport Police would say "move on", Medway Police would return; you catch my drift.
eventually we got the hump and just didnt bother anymore, which coincided with us all getting jobs and cars (generally having s
t to do) and discovering "the pub"...maybe that is the solution... 16 is a crap age because you can't actually go anywhere to see your mates. if you go outside your all criminals but can't go to the pub because your not old enough...
Halb said:
Couldn't you be like a normal kid and stay indoors chatting to mates on msn/skype/xbox?
that's the thing, we were damned if we did (violent threatening youths) and damned if we didn't (lazy, obese diabetes victims)...i don't for a minute blame people, especially the old with nothing better to do than worry, for being frightened because there is a lot of d
heads out there...Lost_BMW said:
Chris_w666 said:
I am the kind of person who would confront them and then goad them into attempting to attack. Not because I am some ultra tough internet Ninja just because in 99% of cases they will bottle it and walk away.
Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
Madness! Have you got any family?Something similar has happened not too far from me recently and the guy whose shop was targetted dished out a couple of kickings, the kids came back so he ran one over with the car they had just smashed the windows of. He was charged with something ridiculous despite not hurting the kid he drove into. After the press reported it the group grew in numbers and started again, I heard a few days ago that some of the local unsavouries are looking for the ring leaders.
These gentlemen have form for dealing with burglars by using a deserted beach, a landrover, and a tow rope.
I doubt the odds would be as good as 99:1. Is it worth even a 10% chance of a mob kicking to test your predictive skills? Just look at the local crime reports let alone the national high profile cases of scumbags maiming or killing the innocent.
If you go to confront a mob, go in a mob imho.
another group of lads gave my nan some abuse and threw bottles at them; neighbour went over and ended up with a black eye...
the other guys got what the deserved; brother got a caution and a few more of us ended with a night in the cells but sometimes, as much as i hate to say it, its all these d
heads will understand...as much as i think 80% of the "go round with a bat" suggestions are in jest and 90% of the time a complete over reaction and unneccesary; the rest of the time, its the only way...
Edited by jimbobsimmonds on Wednesday 1st December 21:59
jimbobsimmonds said:
seriously do not go out on your own...
Quite, Garry Newlove tried that in a street where I viewed a house a few years ago. Lads were mucking aboot near his car and he went out to remonstrate got kicked to death. I didn't end up buying the house so wasn't on that street.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Newlove
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