Annoying things people do on trains
Discussion
Cotty said:
You find yourself in the woods and it is raining, you find a cave that is sheltered and warm, at the back of the cave you find an old button that says "end of the world". Press it?
I would. Most likely sooner rather than later...who could resist inviting in a little chaos??Trabi601 said:
If he's taking a car off the road by cycling and using the train, that has to be a good thing, surely?
Which then comes back to the lack of provision and proper transport policies.
If the selfish Which then comes back to the lack of provision and proper transport policies.
rode his bike that would be even better. There is provision for non folding bikes on trains. This is by adhering to published train company policy and using off peak services where bicycles are welcome.
If you take a non folding bike on a London peak hour service, other passengers are going to tell you to f
k off. It isn't just the bike taking up the space of three people. The pedals hit people in the legs and on crowded trains they either block the exit, block people getting to the exit or block people getting out of their seats. I can't blame sporadic enforcement on the guard. They don't get paid a whole lot and they don't need the aggro of dealing with a mouthy selfish
, for it is obvious that non folding bikes are both prohibited and highly inconvenient on peak hour services. As I said before, getting told by several passengers, every journey that you are a and you should be following train company policy and using an off peak service seems an effective way of solving the problem. Not that you would physically be able to get your bike into many peak hour London services. Anyway, I only see full sized bikes on peak hour trains very very rarely. Edited by creampuff on Thursday 17th November 09:07
I've recently moved out one zone in London in order to buy a house so for the last 2 months i've found myself on the train rather than the tube, in some ways it's better as i'm able to get a seat most days which would never happen on the Northern line in anywhere getting close to rush hour. However i can't understand the people who sit on the outside seat, putting their bag in the window seat and steadfastly ignore anyone who stops next to them until they ask them to move. I know people have mentioned this earlier in the thread but if you really want an aisle seat, unless it's a really quiet time just sit next to somebody who's already occupied the window seat!
One of the only good things going for the tube was that, because they're often busy, passengers do understand how to move down and make the most room, there's also more to hold onto in the aisles for those standing which makes the latter easier to do!
Also, just on the note of people saying that those who travel into offices are sheep and don't need to, the main way i've been able to progress my career so far, apart from hard work is by speaking to people face to face, meeting their contacts, going out for lunches/beers/coffees with people and meeting more people. London, especially in finance, is still rather cliquey, and if you've got a good network, which is easier to maintain in person, you're more likely to get a role than somebody who's considered an unknown. Not an ideal scenario but i quite like the sociable side of working in London, i'll work from home when i'm pushing fifty or completely sick of people, whichever comes first.
One of the only good things going for the tube was that, because they're often busy, passengers do understand how to move down and make the most room, there's also more to hold onto in the aisles for those standing which makes the latter easier to do!
Also, just on the note of people saying that those who travel into offices are sheep and don't need to, the main way i've been able to progress my career so far, apart from hard work is by speaking to people face to face, meeting their contacts, going out for lunches/beers/coffees with people and meeting more people. London, especially in finance, is still rather cliquey, and if you've got a good network, which is easier to maintain in person, you're more likely to get a role than somebody who's considered an unknown. Not an ideal scenario but i quite like the sociable side of working in London, i'll work from home when i'm pushing fifty or completely sick of people, whichever comes first.
walm said:
jesta1865 said:
oddly this morning at the station, as i walked up the platform i thought how odd it was that everyone seemed to be standing about 6' to the left of where we normally stood. so i stood in the normal place and was rewarded with the doors right in front of me, and a lot of tutting behind as they all had to shuffle along. yet it was the normal suspects on the train and they (i would have thought) all know where the train stops? odd
I imagine it was down to just one bloke turning up early, unfamiliar with the exact positioning and just making an educated guess.Everyone else then lined up next to him... because British.
I can't believe you all q, it's a sort of loose rugby scrum arrangement on the c2c, the the first 3 or 4 at the doors get on serenely, then it's a free for all. some block tried to push past me yesterday morning, i was going to say something, but the girl to my left dashed any delusions he had of jumping the front row. as she so elegantly said 'oi stop pushing you mug, wait your f
king turn' got to love the essex girls 
we also have issues with bikes on c2c, the guards sit / stand in the drivers cockpit in the middle of the train. each train is made of 4, 8 or 12 carriages in groups of 4, so they use the drivers bit in the middle of the train for the guards. so no room for bikes there.
there are carriages which have a large open area for disabled wheelchairs, pushchairs and bikes, but because they have shortened the trains as they 'analysed the demand', i have been stood on a train when people have tried to get on with bikes and they physically can't. some get annoyed, people tend to laugh at them.
i do have one pair of chinos that i can't use for work anymore as one t
t tried to push onto the train and got grease from his chain on the leg of my trousers (he was trying to get it on rear first). he ripped the leg of some girls trousers with the pedal, at which point he was told by her husband to sling his hook.GipsyHillClimber said:
I've recently moved out one zone in London in order to buy a house so for the last 2 months i've found myself on the train rather than the tube, in some ways it's better as i'm able to get a seat most days which would never happen on the Northern line in anywhere getting close to rush hour. However i can't understand the people who sit on the outside seat, putting their bag in the window seat and steadfastly ignore anyone who stops next to them until they ask them to move. I know people have mentioned this earlier in the thread but if you really want an aisle seat, unless it's a really quiet time just sit next to somebody who's already occupied the window seat!
One of the only good things going for the tube was that, because they're often busy, passengers do understand how to move down and make the most room, there's also more to hold onto in the aisles for those standing which makes the latter easier to do!
Also, just on the note of people saying that those who travel into offices are sheep and don't need to, the main way i've been able to progress my career so far, apart from hard work is by speaking to people face to face, meeting their contacts, going out for lunches/beers/coffees with people and meeting more people. London, especially in finance, is still rather cliquey, and if you've got a good network, which is easier to maintain in person, you're more likely to get a role than somebody who's considered an unknown. Not an ideal scenario but i quite like the sociable side of working in London, i'll work from home when i'm pushing fifty or completely sick of people, whichever comes first.
Good post on all fronts. I think people do it not because they want an aisle seat, but because they want two seats to themselves and think (possibly correctly) that doing what they do makes it less likely someone will sit next to them. It annoys me too. Not loads, just enough for me to actively want to ask them to move their bag so I can have the window seat. One of the only good things going for the tube was that, because they're often busy, passengers do understand how to move down and make the most room, there's also more to hold onto in the aisles for those standing which makes the latter easier to do!
Also, just on the note of people saying that those who travel into offices are sheep and don't need to, the main way i've been able to progress my career so far, apart from hard work is by speaking to people face to face, meeting their contacts, going out for lunches/beers/coffees with people and meeting more people. London, especially in finance, is still rather cliquey, and if you've got a good network, which is easier to maintain in person, you're more likely to get a role than somebody who's considered an unknown. Not an ideal scenario but i quite like the sociable side of working in London, i'll work from home when i'm pushing fifty or completely sick of people, whichever comes first.
I also occasionally (e.g. train is full, no other seats, but Jonny Aisle Seat is still not moving to allow someone else to sit down) point out to a standing passenger that there's a seat next to him. A bit petty but eh, don't be an Aisle Seat Helmet
Regarding maintaining a network, I agree face-to-face is always best, and I enjoy the sociable aspect too.
jesta1865 said:
I can't believe you all q, it's a sort of loose rugby scrum arrangement on the c2c, the the first 3 or 4 at the doors get on serenely, then it's a free for all.
It's very odd.There is actually a full range down the platform from orderly single file queue to scrum, and even one bunch who actually check for ladies in the surrounding area, let them on first, and THEN form a scrum.
GipsyHillClimber said:
However i can't understand the people who sit on the outside seat, putting their bag in the window seat and steadfastly ignore anyone who stops next to them until they ask them to move. I know people have mentioned this earlier in the thread but if you really want an aisle seat, unless it's a really quiet time just sit next to somebody who's already occupied the window seat!
There are usually heaters situated under the windows which can get a bit uncomfortable when they are pumping out hot air and sitting next to someone when there are free seats would seem odd, even though they know all the seats will be occupied eventually. They just want to sit on their own for as long as possible.Funny one yesterday, guy sitting in a window seat on the left of the train, girl in the widow seat on the right of the train. The sun is in her eyes so she gets up and sits next to the guy, he then gets up and sits in the seat she vacated on the right.
jesta1865 said:
i do have one pair of chinos that i can't use for work anymore as one tt tried to push onto the train and got grease from his chain on the leg of my trousers (he was trying to get it on rear first). he ripped the leg of some girls trousers with the pedal, at which point he was told by her husband to sling his hook.
That's what I mean. Those selfish ft tried to push onto the train and got grease from his chain on the leg of my trousers (he was trying to get it on rear first). he ripped the leg of some girls trousers with the pedal, at which point he was told by her husband to sling his hook.ks jamming their bike into a train carriage where (a) it won't fit, because there isn't even enough room for standing passengers and (b) when it's a peak hour service and bikes are prohibited anyway. The only thing these twunts understand it being told to fk off by other passengers as if they are spoken to by the guard, they think their human rights are being oppressed or they are being prevented from saving the planet or they just have their bike pump jammed up their backside. Where it gets interesting is morning services where (even though bikes are prohibited) there is actually space to get on at outlying stations. Until you approach London and it jams like a sardine can and people can't get on or off because of the dickwad with the bike.
creampuff said:
That's what I mean. Those selfish fks jamming their bike into a train carriage where (a) it won't fit, because there isn't even enough room for standing passengers and (b) when it's a peak hour service and bikes are prohibited anyway.
I believe folding bikes are allowed on some trains at peak times.ks jamming their bike into a train carriage where (a) it won't fit, because there isn't even enough room for standing passengers and (b) when it's a peak hour service and bikes are prohibited anyway. Cotty said:
GipsyHillClimber said:
However i can't understand the people who sit on the outside seat, putting their bag in the window seat and steadfastly ignore anyone who stops next to them until they ask them to move. I know people have mentioned this earlier in the thread but if you really want an aisle seat, unless it's a really quiet time just sit next to somebody who's already occupied the window seat!
There are usually heaters situated under the windows which can get a bit uncomfortable when they are pumping out hot air and sitting next to someone when there are free seats would seem odd, even though they know all the seats will be occupied eventually. They just want to sit on their own for as long as possible.Funny one yesterday, guy sitting in a window seat on the left of the train, girl in the widow seat on the right of the train. The sun is in her eyes so she gets up and sits next to the guy, he then gets up and sits in the seat she vacated on the right.
GipsyHillClimber said:
However i can't understand the people who sit on the outside seat, putting their bag in the window seat and steadfastly ignore anyone who stops next to them until they ask them to move. I know people have mentioned this earlier in the thread but if you really want an aisle seat, unless it's a really quiet time just sit next to somebody who's already occupied the window seat!
It irritates me too.One of the little luxuries (and it is little) is that I buy a first class season ticket for my lengthy commute. Pretty much 99% of all passengers in first occupy the aisle seat - I don't and of course I get people sitting next to me occasionally. I live with it and just hope they don't eat anything.
The aisle seat morons make such a fuss about moving if someone wants the spare seat - and these are, by and large, middle aged suited men (like me).
hidetheelephants said:
I hate sitting at windows because you get your ankle baked if the heater's on and because the shape of the carriage + the absurdly large heater trunking means sitting there has an Alfa Romeo level of ergonomics. I find a lot of smaller planes the same and equally uncomfortable.
I really hate those s at South West Trains. They are always finding new ways to mess it up. But last summer they even found a way to mess up that I had to hand it to them: in the world of making life unpleasant for your customers, this was really innovative.On one of those baking hot summer days when it was 30 degrees, in a train with non-opening windows, did they have the air-con on? No, instead they turned on the heater.
creampuff said:
I really hate those s at South West Trains. They are always finding new ways to mess it up. But last summer they even found a way to mess up that I had to hand it to them: in the world of making life unpleasant for your customers, this was really innovative.
On one of those baking hot summer days when it was 30 degrees, in a train with non-opening windows, did they have the air-con on? No, instead they turned on the heater.
I suspect that kind of thing happens just because the train staff REALLY hate the miserable moaning gits who travel on their trains s at South West Trains. They are always finding new ways to mess it up. But last summer they even found a way to mess up that I had to hand it to them: in the world of making life unpleasant for your customers, this was really innovative.On one of those baking hot summer days when it was 30 degrees, in a train with non-opening windows, did they have the air-con on? No, instead they turned on the heater.
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