What are your unpopular opinions?

[Bright Halo]

Jaroon said:

Your wife is black and you use the term half cast? My unpopular opinion is is violence is often the quickest and surest way to educate.

I'm hardly PC but if you used this term around my kids I'd give you 5 seconds to correct yourself then probably knock your teeth out anyway, yes I am a badass.

“It doesn’t matter how tough you think you are there is always someone round the corner who is tougher” Advice given to me by Billy Higgins in 1982 (and it even applies to the likes of Mike Tyson) when I thought I was the daddy.

[jimPH]

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

My wife uses it. Infact everyone here (Africa) uses it. What do I know being an oyibo.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 24th January 17:37

Well I guess that's fair enough in Africa and as the next poster says context is everything. I've used the term half caste years ago, a black friend of mine asked me not to and explained why. Personally, and this is me I do believe it has undertones/overtones? of superiority and a derogatory sub text and I'd react to anyone using it around my children in the UK.

Because you're probably British and over sensitive as it's your friend and only thinks of it as a term used by white people, you've took one person's view and thought it universal, which is idiotic. Everyone outside of the UK I know uses it. In fact they use other terms like "half breed" which, I don't use. One term I've never liked is coloured. I've never heard any black person use that. However I'm an "oyibo" and I get called it daily, but you won't know about that if you haven't left the UK.

What do YOU call a child who's half black/white! Let me tell you this, African people sure as hell don't think they're black!

Let me know when you you're ready to punch me in the face, there's a que.

[80sMatchbox]

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

My wife uses it. Infact everyone here (Africa) uses it. What do I know being an oyibo.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 24th January 17:37

Well I guess that's fair enough in Africa and as the next poster says context is everything. I've used the term half caste years ago, a black friend of mine asked me not to and explained why. Personally, and this is me I do believe it has undertones/overtones? of superiority and a derogatory sub text and I'd react to anyone using it around my children in the UK.

You came across as a bit of a nob in the other post above. I'm not sure if this is an unpopukar opinion though.

This is the "world wide web", though people tend to forget the "world". Having lived in 4 different countries in my life, what is offensive in once land could be a term of endearment in another.

[Jaroon]

jimPH said:

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

My wife uses it. Infact everyone here (Africa) uses it. What do I know being an oyibo.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 24th January 17:37

Well I guess that's fair enough in Africa and as the next poster says context is everything. I've used the term half caste years ago, a black friend of mine asked me not to and explained why. Personally, and this is me I do believe it has undertones/overtones? of superiority and a derogatory sub text and I'd react to anyone using it around my children in the UK.

Because you're probably British and over sensitive as it's your friend and only thinks of it as a term used by white people, you've took one person's view and thought it universal, which is idiotic. Everyone outside of the UK I know uses it. In fact they use other terms like "half breed" which, I don't use. One term I've never liked is coloured. I've never heard any black person use that. However I'm an "oyibo" and I get called it daily, but you won't know about that if you haven't left the UK.

What do YOU call a child who's half black/white! Let me tell you this, African people sure as hell don't think they're black!

Let me know when you you're ready to punch me in the face, there's a que.

Do you mean queue lol cheap shot I'm totally dyslexic myself.

Try this, a thing called google, I didn't need it in this case but you clearly do, half caste is derogatory in no uncertain terms.

You would call the child mixed race, do you really not know this? I've traveled extensively in Africa although mainly in the east and have visited 52 countries last count

Oh and I'm Irish and oversensitive.

[Jaroon]

80sMatchbox said:

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

My wife uses it. Infact everyone here (Africa) uses it. What do I know being an oyibo.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 24th January 17:37

Well I guess that's fair enough in Africa and as the next poster says context is everything. I've used the term half caste years ago, a black friend of mine asked me not to and explained why. Personally, and this is me I do believe it has undertones/overtones? of superiority and a derogatory sub text and I'd react to anyone using it around my children in the UK.

You came across as a bit of a nob in the other post above. I'm not sure if this is an unpopukar opinion though.

This is the "world wide web", though people tend to forget the "world". Having lived in 4 different countries in my life, what is offensive in once land could be a term of endearment in another.

Most people aren't that bothered by me for me to be considered unpopular but as another cad made the same clever witticism earlier you may have a point. You may consider yourself worldly but I'm better traveled then you, I just am

[Mothersruin]

Integroo said:

Alex said:

Integroo said:

So, those with the broadest shoulders beyond basic living expenses, should bear the biggest burden to support our society.

No they shouldn't.

Integroo said:

Plus, progressive taxes serve a function in promoting income equality, amongst other things. They are distributive of wealth, which is a good thing.

No it isn't.

You can hold that view, that is your right. It is a selfish view, however.

No, it's not.

[Integroo]

From Wikipedia:

It can sometimes be used or seen as an offensive term (particularly in New Zealand and the Pacific Islands and parts of Asia), but this is not universal.

For some, the term half-caste is more offensive than mixed-race, even if the latter is suggestive of tainting and dilution of ethnicity.

Use of the term half-caste is considered offensive today. The National Union of Journalists ratified guidelines for race reporting instructs journalists to 'avoid words that, although common in the past, are now considered offensive, e.g. half-caste and coloured. Ask people how they define themselves. Check if a person identifies as mixed-race or Black'.

You're both right.

[Integroo]

Mothersruin said:

No, it's not.

I'm not sure if my view is the unpopular one here, or yours. I think the latter. I would say that however...

[TameRacingDriver]

Nanook said:

Where are these millions of jobs? That's a silly question. No-one has suggested that everyone could do it, at once.

So what you're saying is, not everyone can earn £100k because for a start, there aren't enough 100k jobs to go around for the millions of people in the country who you perceive to be making no effort. I'm glad we agree on that

Nanook said:

But if you've determined enough to put in the effort and learn, practice, whatever it takes, it can happen to you.

Can. There's the key word right there. Not WILL, but could. No guarantees. Not by a long shot.

Nanook said:

I love it when people put "end of discussion" in a discussion other people are having. As if they are the thread arbiter. It's even better when they're quite as wrong as you are, right there.

I'm wrong?! I think not. All you've given me is opinion. You are clearly very self centered and ignorant if you think everyone has the same abilities as yourself, and all that sets people apart is effort.

Nanook said:

Ever watched any EPL football. Everyone on the pitch, bar the ref, is on upwards of £100k. None of them are idiots though, you're telling us? None of them are intellectual morons, that just happened to get there through working hard?

No, they have TALENT. Could you be a premier league footballer if you'd just tried harder? If so, why didn't you? If not, you've proved my point perfectly.

[227bhp]

Integroo said:

RacerMDR said:

oh dear.

I was born in the North East of England, to a parents with no money. I think SLUM is a bit of an odd term, as there aren't really any in England are there? However - think terraced house in ruined ex pit village and interest rates so bad that fathers are killing themselves. Parents don't own a car - run 2 miles to school to avoid getting beaten up everyday.

The rest of your post is just bullst and bitter excuses I'm afraid.

Society has given me absolutely fking nothing pal. I've worked for every inch. If I'm selfish it's because I know how hard it was, and I'm not prepared to finance things I don't agree with.

I have no problem with putting back into society to what can make a difference. What I won't do is finance more than is fair to a load of people that failed and want a medal for trying.

Life is as simple as I make out I'm afraid.

Congratulations. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder as to any suggestion that where you are is due to anything other than yourself.

You said your business turned over 100k last year. Why didn't it turnover 200k, or 500k? Did you not work hard enough? Maybe you should have worked harder, and you could have afforded a Lamborghini rather than a M3. I don't know what your company does, but if it hits hard times, are you therefore a failure that should have worked harder?

I'm not jealous. I grew up in a family that was far from poor but certainly not rich - my Dad started his life as a miner. I was the first generation of my family to go to University and I am now a professional, earning a decent wage. Did I get here through hard work? Sure. Do I assume that it was the only thing that got me here? Of course not.

Selfish and lacking empathy. Not qualities I admire.
Maybe you should move to America. Your views would fit in better over there.

Turnover means nothing. You can turnover £500k and still be on minimum wage.

[jimPH]

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

Jaroon said:

jimPH said:

My wife uses it. Infact everyone here (Africa) uses it. What do I know being an oyibo.

Edited by jimPH on Wednesday 24th January 17:37

Well I guess that's fair enough in Africa and as the next poster says context is everything. I've used the term half caste years ago, a black friend of mine asked me not to and explained why. Personally, and this is me I do believe it has undertones/overtones? of superiority and a derogatory sub text and I'd react to anyone using it around my children in the UK.

Because you're probably British and over sensitive as it's your friend and only thinks of it as a term used by white people, you've took one person's view and thought it universal, which is idiotic. Everyone outside of the UK I know uses it. In fact they use other terms like "half breed" which, I don't use. One term I've never liked is coloured. I've never heard any black person use that. However I'm an "oyibo" and I get called it daily, but you won't know about that if you haven't left the UK.

What do YOU call a child who's half black/white! Let me tell you this, African people sure as hell don't think they're black!

Let me know when you you're ready to punch me in the face, there's a que.

Do you mean queue lol cheap shot I'm totally dyslexic myself.

Try this, a thing called google, I didn't need it in this case but you clearly do, half caste is derogatory in no uncertain terms.

You would call the child mixed race, do you really not know this? I've traveled extensively in Africa although mainly in the east and have visited 52 countries last count

Oh and I'm Irish and oversensitive.

Mixed race! Lol. Typical nationalistic bigotry. Be sure to let the rest of the world know, or do you only get offended by white people.

[48Valves]

TameRacingDriver said:

kingston12 said:

Integroo said:

What is it with people assuming that high earnings equal hard work, and low earnings equal lazy and feckless?

That is the default PH view - if you earn less than six figures it's because you aren't working hard enough. It is true in a lot of cases, of course, but not the vast majority.

Yep, I see this phrase used time and time again on here, and it's fking annoying - probably one of the only thing that really gets my goat that I read on here in fact. For the vast majority of people in this country, or in any country, working harder does not result in more money.

It *might* improve your prospects of getting more money, but the phrase implies that a 6-figure salary is within reach for anyone and everyone, as long as they "work hard enough". Well it is utter bks, otherwise everyone would be doing it.

I also resent the idea that earning a bigger salary makes someone a better person, as often seems to be implied. In a large number of cases, I'd say quite the opposite, quite a lot of well off people appear to be s. That's not to say that you don't get low paid s, but the law of averages kick in, and there's a MUCH bigger pool to choose from.

I would say working harder does give a significant of increasing earning potential.

How many people who complain they are on low pay ever do anything about it other than complain?

With the internet there is no excuse for not learning a new skill or gaining knowledge.

To the poster who mentioned the kid from a Northern slum doing well. Hi. Thats almost me. I don't earn anything like 6 figures and probably never will. But I do ok. And I've got what I have because I put the extra time in to learn new skills that allowed me to move on to the next job. I left school with 2 C grades at GCSE and dropped out of art school after not very long.

Ever since I've had to work harder and smarter to make up for not putting the effort into my early education.

Some of my Northern slum friends have even gone on to gain PHDs and even set up successful businesses. Which is amazing when you consider that their parents didn't give them the money to do so.

[Antony Moxey]

DurianIceCream said:

Antony Moxey said:

I thought the thread was about unpopular opinions - mine is that I consider my dog more important to me than i do most humans. If that makes me a fool, well, so what, I won't lose sleep over it.

Have I mentioned your dog will be dead in a few years and nobody will care?

Most people are more concerned with things they know which are part of their lives. My capuccino in front of me is more important to me than the OAP eating a yoghurt at the next table.

If the roof started to collapse and I could save my capuccino from being ruined by falling debris or I could save the yoghurt eating OAP from death by falling ceiling, I'd save the OAP. I wouldn't even think about it.

I'm surprised that anyone would choose the death of the child of their friend over the death of their dog. You best keep your feelings to yourself in the real world, you may find yourself lacking in friends.

Someone mentioned about no-one caring about my dog dying, not sure if it was you or not but then so what? My dog’s important to me, it matters not a jot whether anyone else cares about that or not. Same with friends, I’m not bothered whether they like my opinions or not, but my opinions are just that and if they cost a friendship then so be it. But I doubt they’re that worried about a hypothetical situation that’s never going to happen, or that I’ll ever be in a situation where I’d have to choose between my dog and their kids.

They would be in no doubt though that if presented with the choice of spending the afternoon entertaining their kids or entertaining my dog they’ll need to find another babysitter.

[anonymous-user]

TameRacingDriver said:

Nanook said:

Why? You state it's not possible. Why is it not possible?

Could you give one good reason please?

I can give you plenty of reasons:-

Not clever / talented enough

Poor upbringing

Poor energy levels

Illnesses (mental or physical)

Poor life choices earlier in life

Where are these millions of £100K jobs waiting for these people who aren't trying hard enough?

Your last point is the only one that needs to be made but Nanook and RacerMDR are clearly too stupid to understand the simplicity of even that obvious flaw. Put another way, if everyone does what Nanook and RacerMDR say and 'improve' themselves as they like to believe they have then all the £100k jobs become £20k jobs. Market forces innit?

[ocrx8]

Harry H said:

I agree with a lot of what Katie Hopkins says. I enjoyed her LBC program. Plenty of debate and loads of call ins from snowflakes.

Yes, she goes a little over the top occassionally to drum up a bit of controversy but so what. The "I'm shocked and appalled" brigade can fk off.

You’re not the only one

[TameRacingDriver]

48Valves said:

I would say working harder does give a significant of increasing earning potential.

How many people who complain they are on low pay ever do anything about it other than complain?

With the internet there is no excuse for not learning a new skill or gaining knowledge.

I don’t disagree it gives the potential, of course it will increase the probability. I just find the phrase so nauseatingly arrogant and patronising, and they are not people I would want to knock around with, even if they were “loaded”

[Oilchange]

Integroo said:

RacerMDR said:

48Valves said:

Integroo said:

48Valves said:

A fair tax system would be one where everybody pays the same % rate.

That would be an unfair and regressive tax system.

Unfair how? Everyone pays the same %. Earn more, pay more. Earn less, pay less. Simple.

100% this - make it 25% for everyone regardless of earnings. That's how %s work. More you earn, more you pay.

Then fk off the ridiculously expensive unnecessary (at that point) HMRC - use the billion or so quid a year it costs to run that ridiculous organisation to run the NHS, buy more police and nurses.

No complex rules - means no avoidance.

It really isn't that simple. Quite evidently, not everyone lives a nice simple life of earning a salary where a portion of that can just be deducted and send to the Government.

Plus see my post above.

This is why it would be a good idea to bring 20% income tax in at earnings above, say, £11,500. Oh, hold on the Conservatives have already done that!
And then to double the income tax percentage to 40% at earnings above, say £43000. Oh the Conservatives have done that as well!
And how about increasing the income tax percentage to 45% on earnings above £150,000? Oh they’ve done that too!

So, the wealthy not only pay more by dint of percentages, they pay a larger percentage too!

How about that!

Its almost like Father Ted explaining the theory of cows. If Father Dougal holds up the toy cow in line with the real cow that is far away, they appear to be the same size.

But here’s the big reveal, they aren’t! Amazing.

OMG!

[anonymous-user]

TameRacingDriver said:

Nanook said:

Other than that, none of those are valid. If you want something, work for it, make it happen, because no-one else will do it for you.

And most of the time, I'm a fking idiot. So if I can do it, so can anyone.

Why are they not valid? I'll ask again, where are these millions of £100K jobs waiting for people who need to just work harder to get them? There are lots of people with dreams, believe it or not, most people have dreams and aspirations. You seem to completely reject the possibility that in fact there are probably millions who have tried, and failed, to achieve their dreams, and not through lack of hard work.

You are clearly just as stubborn in your views as I am so that's a bit rich saying that.

Finally, you very clearly are NOT an idiot. If you were, you wouldn't be earning £100K+ a year. Idiots do NOT get to earn that much just by hard work, end of discussion. With huge amounts of luck, possibly.

I work in the Oil industry, trust me.... there are LOADS of idiots who earn more than 100K out there.... and I do mean LOADS! A few of the field guys are nothing more than knuckle dragging morons who probably can't even write a basic sentence of English, let alone sit an exam at university.

Luck does play a part in making big money but contacts are more important.

[The Vambo]

Fronk7 said:

FiF said:

Unpopular with some, the natural enemy of the British is the French.

Your inferiority complex is showing, and
you’re no doubt whistling in the dark.

[Bradgate]

The BBC is, by a distance, the best broadcasting organisation in the world. Radio 4 is worth the licence fee on its own.

Nigel Farage is the fourth most significant British politician of the last 100 years. (After Churchill, Attlee & Thatcher). If it were not for Farage, we would certainly not be leaving the EU next year, and probably not ever. I voted Remain, btw...

If we want muslims to integrate properly into western societies, we need to be welcoming and accepting, not demonising and racist.

Class prejudice and discrimination has held Britain back for centuries, and continues to do so.

Private schools and hospitals are businesses, not charities, and should be taxed accordingly.