Anyone else getting tired of it all?

[RUSTILLDOWN]

Macroni18 said:

If the elites want to control population, easy to do so with substances in vaccines that lead to infertility, reduce testosterone etc.

Western countries NEED higher and higher populations so they won’t be doing that.

Macroni18 said:

If this works out well, it shows that a world wide false flag can be initiated at will to get the population to do whatever they want. Next time it may not be vaccination but something else. People will willingly go under any restriction, all the media has to do is cause a stir (just like the petrol crisis).

There are plenty of examples of demonstrations and riots worldwide. Indeed any western government can be easily overthrown if that escalates like it often does in non western countries.

Macroni18 said:

They want to get rid of cash. Taxes can then be increased without any recourse for the general public. Banks can start charging to keep your money in their bank, again no recourse. Laws have been/will be passed for banks to dip into customer accounts if they fail. Laws will be passed to make banking quite restrictive for common public. Covid is a good one to help that along, many places no longer accept cash.

Some banks have been charging to keep your money for years,

Macroni18 said:

They want to get rid of cash.

Agreed

Macroni18 said:

Taxes can then be increased without any recourse for the general public.

That has always been the case, and the government is creates this thing called money so they don’t really need tax anymore.

Macroni18 said:

Banks can start charging to keep your money in their bank, again no recourse.

That has been the case for a decade in Europe.

Macroni18 said:

One world government/economy/control becomes easier when psychologically people feel the whole world is under some major threat.

We recently left a mainly one government continent. I’m sure other countries will also leave as no one wants a single government not least the governments themselves as they would lose power.




I was monitoring covid in China months before you probably even heard about it, it’s real, it’s just that humans can make bad decisions.

Anyway, not the thread for conspiracy theories.

Edited by RUSTILLDOWN on Tuesday 14th December 08:46

[Tyre Smoke]

I'm pleased there are 70 or so Tory MPs that are going to vote against this plan B. For various reasons, but I think fundamentally there is no justification for it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering where all these new cases every day are coming from. With so much of the population vaccinated and more and more having recovered from Covid, where are these 50k a day cases? It is surely now the case that the Government are trying to legislate against a seasonal influenza outbreak. It isn't deaths and hospitalisations so much as the fabric of society breaking down because everyone is home with a sniffle and not at work..

[croyde]

Fekin Starmer is gleefully voting for it.

FFS

[mike80]

I must admit it's really getting to me now. Maybe because it's that time of year where work is traditionally quiet, so I don't have that to take my mind off it.

I'm not a Christmas fanatic, but I like it as a time of year to see family, have a few drinks, and a bit of time off. It's hard to look forward to that with the threat of more restrictions hanging over us, relatives asking you to do a Covid test before you visit their house etc.

I just don't understand the panic over this latest "variant". Apparently it's mild, a cold or whatever for most. So obviously we need more restrictions. Then as soon as restrictions are brought in people seem to be crying out for the next lot of restrictions! Because if we don't, we're all going to die... again...

Then conveniently somebody in the UK dies WITH this latest variant. No other information about them, could be any number of other things that killed them, but enough people will be spooked by the headlines they'll be calling for yet more restrictions.

I don't know what the agenda is. Probably arse covering, and worry about the consequences later, but the answer to the topic title is a resounding YES from me.

Sorry for the rant.

[TameRacingDriver]

I think it's a case of this country being the most risk averse country in the world. We now live in a society where dying for any reason is unacceptable. We're constantly told what we should and shouldn't do, and if we follow those guidelines, we should live forever. Except life doesn't work that way does it...

[craigjm]

TameRacingDriver said:

I think it's a case of this country being the most risk averse country in the world. We now live in a society where dying for any reason is unacceptable. We're constantly told what we should and shouldn't do, and if we follow those guidelines, we should live forever. Except life doesn't work that way does it...

Agreed.

Of course, if it had meant that 100000 people a day would be dying from it we need to do something about it but the way this government is approaching things even this far down the line is like it as deadly as Ebola and you will almost certainly die if you catch it.

[Lotobear]

mike80 said:

I must admit it's really getting to me now. Maybe because it's that time of year where work is traditionally quiet, so I don't have that to take my mind off it.

I'm not a Christmas fanatic, but I like it as a time of year to see family, have a few drinks, and a bit of time off. It's hard to look forward to that with the threat of more restrictions hanging over us, relatives asking you to do a Covid test before you visit their house etc.

I just don't understand the panic over this latest "variant". Apparently it's mild, a cold or whatever for most. So obviously we need more restrictions. Then as soon as restrictions are brought in people seem to be crying out for the next lot of restrictions! Because if we don't, we're all going to die... again...

Then conveniently somebody in the UK dies WITH this latest variant. No other information about them, could be any number of other things that killed them, but enough people will be spooked by the headlines they'll be calling for yet more restrictions.

I don't know what the agenda is. Probably arse covering, and worry about the consequences later, but the answer to the topic title is a resounding YES from me.

Sorry for the rant.

Watch this (it's long but really, really interesting) - it will shed some light on how it's happening if not the why (that bit still puzzles me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doXCxzi0Lxo

[Joscal]

[redacted]

[Harrison Bergeron]

Welshbeef said:

And again why do you think they are doing this?

Do you seriously think it’s a willing piece of self harm for every country in the world so the Rothschilds can own our countries debs and thus the countries.

Massive arse covering. Do you remember the initial videos from Italy showing “fit and healthy ” baristas on ventilators?

No. That’s because it was full of old and fat and unhealthy people. The same ones who are still dying with the rona. That’s who is still at risk. For everyone else it’s a cold , moronic is even milder.

The government are terrified of people realising they’ve been lied to and 500 plus billion has been pissed up the wall. That’s why they’re keeping up with project fear and spending 300 million on adverts next year to keep people scared.

Tyre Smoke said:

No. When this started they didn't know how deadly the virus would be. It could have been ebola-like. However, it has become apparent that it's actually a very nasty flu like virus that has been overreacted to on a massive scale. Now the only way to escape from the painted in corner is to make everyone take the flu+ jab and then they will be able to say that they've beaten it. But until then, the NHS is under extreme pressure, the Omicron variant is far more transmissible, and tens and tens of thousands have died with (but we want you to think, of) CV19. Meanwhile everything else is going to Hell in a hand cart.

+1

[Munter]

craigjm said:

but the way this government is approaching things even this far down the line is like it as deadly as Ebola and you will almost certainly die if you catch it.

That's the sort of BS I'm tired of.

Literally nobody has taken that line.

The line is, and has been from the start, if too many people catch it, enough of them will need hospitalisation, that the system will not be able to cope. From the start it's been about keeping numbers low enough to run a rudimentary health service.

It's always been "if you catch it you'll probably be fine. But some of you will need help. It'd be nice if we could give that to the people who need it." And that's it. Of course if you want to sound big and clever etc people try to make it out as if we're being told something different.

[Greenbot35]

mike80 said:

I must admit it's really getting to me now. Maybe because it's that time of year where work is traditionally quiet, so I don't have that to take my mind off it.

I'm not a Christmas fanatic, but I like it as a time of year to see family, have a few drinks, and a bit of time off. It's hard to look forward to that with the threat of more restrictions hanging over us, relatives asking you to do a Covid test before you visit their house etc.

I just don't understand the panic over this latest "variant". Apparently it's mild, a cold or whatever for most. So obviously we need more restrictions. Then as soon as restrictions are brought in people seem to be crying out for the next lot of restrictions! Because if we don't, we're all going to die... again...

Then conveniently somebody in the UK dies WITH this latest variant. No other information about them, could be any number of other things that killed them, but enough people will be spooked by the headlines they'll be calling for yet more restrictions.

I don't know what the agenda is. Probably arse covering, and worry about the consequences later, but the answer to the topic title is a resounding YES from me.

Sorry for the rant.

It could have been me typing that, i feel exhausted and demotivated yo do anything.

The fear and daftness is back in full swing. Its not just one thing its a combination of them all, everywhere seems excessively busy or crowded as people are hearded into lines or queuing to show a pass, take a test or some pointless posturing or exercise that won't have any real effect on safety. I've been field based throughout do it eats up extra time too.

My whole life now is work and anything else is a "can I be bothered" dilemma. I never felt that way before.

Edited by Greenbot35 on Tuesday 14th December 16:14

[Skyedriver]

Macroni18 said:

Few things I can think of:

If a Bible believing Christian, it is getting people prepped to taking whatever the government deems necessary (mark of the beast) when the time comes.

If the elites want to control population, easy to do so with substances in vaccines that lead to infertility, reduce testosterone etc.

If this works out well, it shows that a world wide false flag can be initiated at will to get the population to do whatever they want. Next time it may not be vaccination but something else. People will willingly go under any restriction, all the media has to do is cause a stir (just like the petrol crisis).

They want to get rid of cash. Taxes can then be increased without any recourse for the general public. Banks can start charging to keep your money in their bank, again no recourse. Laws have been/will be passed for banks to dip into customer accounts if they fail. Laws will be passed to make banking quite restrictive for common public. Covid is a good one to help that along, many places no longer accept cash.

One world government/economy/control becomes easier when psychologically people feel the whole world is under some major threat. Those who don't obey govt diktat would be seen as problem makers & dealt with more and more harshly as time goes by. Again with covid passport and restrictions those are being tested.

Few others I can think of but hopefully you get the gist.

Yep, my thoughts too, fortunately I'm too old to worry but I'm concerned for my Son.

[Skyedriver]

Greenbot35 said:

My whole life now is work and anything else is a "can I be bothered" dilemma. I never felt that way before.

Edited by Greenbot35 on Tuesday 14th December 16:14

You've got work to give you an interest, I'm retired, people think that's great, you have time to do what you want.......

[GT3Manthey]

Skyedriver said:

You've got work to give you an interest, I'm retired, people think that's great, you have time to do what you want.......

Interesting .

A potential lockdown aside I can’t think for a moment that I’d be bored in retirement .

Do you regret retiring ?

[croyde]

I've had a lot of time off work this past year due to their Covid protocols.

So a taste of retiring but I have to budget severely due to life expenses, so can't do an awful lot.

Sadly my actual retirement will be virtually impossible as it'll be a big struggle to survive.

So yes, I'd have plenty to do if I could retire on a decent pension.

On another note, my mother in law died last month after just under a year of battling cancer.

She was a very independent and clever woman who made full use of her retirement on a good pension. She visited friends, travelled abroad, took around 3 cruises a year. Loved life.

Sad that her last year of healthy life was spent stuck in her house and for a long time couldn't see her grandchildren, only seen through her windows, because she stuck to the government's stupid heart breaking rules.

[GT3Manthey]

croyde said:

I've had a lot of time off work this past year due to their Covid protocols.

So a taste of retiring but I have to budget severely due to life expenses, so can't do an awful lot.

Sadly my actual retirement will be virtually impossible as it'll be a big struggle to survive.

So yes, I'd have plenty to do if I could retire on a decent pension.

On another note, my mother in law died last month after just under a year of battling cancer.

She was a very independent and clever woman who made full use of her retirement on a good pension. She visited friends, travelled abroad, took around 3 cruises a year. Loved life.

Sad that her last year of healthy life was spent stuck in her house and for a long time couldn't see her grandchildren, only seen through her windows, because she stuck to the government's stupid heart breaking rules.

Sorry to hear about your MIL.

I remember over the last lockdown going to check on my mother and only being allowed to either sit in the garden with her or during the winter wave through the window.
I’m sorry but this time round I won’t not be seeing her.

We are all now triple jabbed and I think it’s more detrimental to her well-being not seeing anyone at her age.

[Tyre Smoke]

I'm not starting the day well. Made the mistake of scanning the Sky and BBC news apps. All talk of a two week lockdown in the New Year. I don't think that will make the slightest difference and will kill the remaining hospitality that has survived this far.

Head down, carry on. Power through.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

GT3Manthey said:

Ah the silly ‘circuit breaker’ idea again . Pointless .

If a lockdown is going to happen then it needs to be for 2 months .

Then you will have to start moving the retirement age back. At what point do you pay everyone's wages and balance for books?

[craigjm]

Munter said:

craigjm said:

but the way this government is approaching things even this far down the line is like it as deadly as Ebola and you will almost certainly die if you catch it.

That's the sort of BS I'm tired of.

Literally nobody has taken that line.

Right so the recent Chris Witty TV advert that has the sinister feel of something out of 1980s USSR with him staring at the camera not blinking and devoid of emotion telling people to get their booster is not designed to scare people into getting jabbed for instance?

I’m not anti vax I’m fully jabbed and completely agree with it but if we continue like we are with coming and going restrictions and if the sage recommendation of a circuit breaker is taken up all this kind of thing is going to do is make people cynical, think that jabs don’t work and actually make things worse.

Yes it’s an absolutely stty time to be in government, it’s a st situation and the general public act like imbeciles but they need to do a better job now we are so far down the line. The fact this thread has worried people on it nearly two years on is a good indicator of the approach not working. Add into that the refusal to say whether the poor soul that died died of or with omicron only adds to it. I get that it’s a fine line to balance.

I actually think this situation would have been better handled with a national unity government to stop the political points scoring, different restrictions in different places and one message country wide.

[croyde]

Munter said:

craigjm said:

but the way this government is approaching things even this far down the line is like it as deadly as Ebola and you will almost certainly die if you catch it.

That's the sort of BS I'm tired of.

Literally nobody has taken that line.

The line is, and has been from the start, if too many people catch it, enough of them will need hospitalisation, that the system will not be able to cope. From the start it's been about keeping numbers low enough to run a rudimentary health service.

It's always been "if you catch it you'll probably be fine. But some of you will need help. It'd be nice if we could give that to the people who need it." And that's it. Of course if you want to sound big and clever etc people try to make it out as if we're being told something different.

Which takes us back to why waste money on Furlough and destroying, including my, businesses.

Should have spent that money building a health service that would be the envoy of the world.