PHat PHighters?
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okgo said:
Start eating breakfast, its not difficult, even if its a protein shake (which would be better than most breakfasts out there).
Other than that its simply you're not doing enough?
All this built like a rugby player stuff is usually toss, I can tell you that rugby doesn't build you to anything, its the gym training and eating you do, anyone could end up looking like a 6 ft rugby player, and in the same way anyone can end up looking like a 6 ft marathon runner, or sprinter. Build, aside from a few genetic freaks is neither here nor there, you can make your body look almost however you want.
Regarding the rugby-build stuff - the doctor's words, not mine. Yes, I could lose all the muscles as well as the fat but then i'd look decidedly odd (it is stated in my medical history that several members of my family - including me - have unusually broad shoulders). Most of the muscle was built up when I used to cycle several miles a day, as well as spend plenty of time on a rowing machine.Other than that its simply you're not doing enough?
All this built like a rugby player stuff is usually toss, I can tell you that rugby doesn't build you to anything, its the gym training and eating you do, anyone could end up looking like a 6 ft rugby player, and in the same way anyone can end up looking like a 6 ft marathon runner, or sprinter. Build, aside from a few genetic freaks is neither here nor there, you can make your body look almost however you want.
As for doing more, time is the enemy - I have no more spare time. A typical day for me is this: Wake at 0635, into car to head to work 0645. Work from 0700 - 2000, with 1hr's break (twice a week I use that hour to go swimming, the other 4 days it's used for stuff like shopping and doing other necessary stuff). Get home 2015, eat dinner, take dog for 45min walk. Bed by 2300 (Thursdays I do gym/swim from 2015-2200, then walk dog - bed by 0000)
I can't be active at work either - out of 12 hours working, at least 10 of them are spent behind the wheel - the most active I get is washing the vehicles at the end of the day.
So, a daily diet of two wraps, an apple, a yoghurt and an evening meal (usually some sort of meat with fat removed and vegetables) that totals less than half of what I used to eat, plus 4 sessions of swimming (around 3-4 hours total), an hour in the gym, walking 5-6 hours a week with a labrador, and I still can't lose weight?
I'm beginning to wonder if I should see the doctor.
I'm rather pleased with myself, having finally dropped 10kg (in fact, 10.5kg) since I started trying. 
The last few weeks have been somewhat frustrating, as since I've started cycling 100+ miles per week I seem to have been putting on leg muscle at the same rate as I've been dropping fat elsewhere, so my overall weight hadn't changed for 3 weeks!
The last few weeks have been somewhat frustrating, as since I've started cycling 100+ miles per week I seem to have been putting on leg muscle at the same rate as I've been dropping fat elsewhere, so my overall weight hadn't changed for 3 weeks!
GTO Scott said:
Update from Sunday: 23st 10lb. One whole pound off - and that's probably just down to natural variance.
f
k it. Time to get radical with a knife and some bandages.
Have you started eating breakfast yet? Set the alarm for 06:25 and stick some milk on a bowl of oats or something. Raw oats and milk is much nicer than gloopy porridge anyway! f
k it. Time to get radical with a knife and some bandages. GTO Scott said:
When I remember to, yes. 3 times last week and every day so far this week. Either Shreddies or Rice Krispies (no added sugar on either, semi-skimmed milk). Buggered if I'm faffing round with porridge and the like though.
If you want any help losing the weight, start a thread, post your diet and training and we will give you some advice on weight loss. At your weight and size if all is going to plan you should be losing a lot each week.This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
dirty boy said:
Losing a few lbs here and there is far better than dropping big lbs in quick succession.
Good stuff, just keep it up.
My progress has slowed up a little, i'm now 11st 13lbs, so i've lost 9lbs since 9th April, pretty much one pound per week. However, i've noticed little bumps appearing swimming seems to be toning me up nicely, more than I expected to be honest, I think the muscle toning is slowing up the weight loss.
Will be interesting to see what my body fat percentage is when I get round to having an assessment.
Always nice to return to this thread Good stuff, just keep it up.
My progress has slowed up a little, i'm now 11st 13lbs, so i've lost 9lbs since 9th April, pretty much one pound per week. However, i've noticed little bumps appearing
swimming seems to be toning me up nicely, more than I expected to be honest, I think the muscle toning is slowing up the weight loss.Will be interesting to see what my body fat percentage is when I get round to having an assessment.
So, a year ago, I was 11st 13lbs.
Today I am 12st 5lbs.
And do you know what? I can really feel that extra 5lbs, and know exactly where it is....my mid-section.
Had to give the gym a miss from November to January (work) but have lost 8lbs since rejoining.
Will see what I can do in the next 2 months, as I have a holiday to aim for!
dirty boy said:
dirty boy said:
Losing a few lbs here and there is far better than dropping big lbs in quick succession.
Good stuff, just keep it up.
My progress has slowed up a little, i'm now 11st 13lbs, so i've lost 9lbs since 9th April, pretty much one pound per week. However, i've noticed little bumps appearing swimming seems to be toning me up nicely, more than I expected to be honest, I think the muscle toning is slowing up the weight loss.
Will be interesting to see what my body fat percentage is when I get round to having an assessment.
Always nice to return to this thread Good stuff, just keep it up.
My progress has slowed up a little, i'm now 11st 13lbs, so i've lost 9lbs since 9th April, pretty much one pound per week. However, i've noticed little bumps appearing
swimming seems to be toning me up nicely, more than I expected to be honest, I think the muscle toning is slowing up the weight loss.Will be interesting to see what my body fat percentage is when I get round to having an assessment.
So, a year ago, I was 11st 13lbs.
Today I am 12st 5lbs.
And do you know what? I can really feel that extra 5lbs, and know exactly where it is....my mid-section.
Had to give the gym a miss from November to January (work) but have lost 8lbs since rejoining.
Will see what I can do in the next 2 months, as I have a holiday to aim for!
Lee
GTO Scott said:
When I remember to, yes. 3 times last week and every day so far this week. Either Shreddies or Rice Krispies (no added sugar on either, semi-skimmed milk). Buggered if I'm faffing round with porridge and the like though.
I used to think porridge was a faff, but now I make it every day. 5tbsp of porridge, mix a bit of milk, then zap it for 2 mins. Think about it, is 3 mins total prep' time going to ruin your morning?Whilst mine is in the microwave, I usually throw a sarnie together for lunch.
I've also undertaken the task of using skimmed milk this week, f
k me it's awful, but i'm sticking with it, and it's not actually that bad with porridge, but in tea and on other cereal it's pap.Ordinary_Chap said:
If you want any help losing the weight, start a thread, post your diet and training and we will give you some advice on weight loss. At your weight and size if all is going to plan you should be losing a lot each week.
This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
I think this is a good idea.This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
Might be worth you just eradicating one bad habit per week, and introducing one good thing per week. It's not easy to start with (i'm seriously missing a tub of Haagen Daas this week) but I know how much better I feel for not eating it, and eventually the craving goes.
Have enjoyed catching up on progress of others, keep it up, it's worth it when you achieve your goals.
Ordinary_Chap said:
If you want any help losing the weight, start a thread, post your diet and training and we will give you some advice on weight loss. At your weight and size if all is going to plan you should be losing a lot each week.
This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
6' 6". 40-42" waist, but a 19.5" neck which means all my shirts make me look like I've already lost 10st and haven't bought new shirts.This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
I am getting fitter - each session at the swimming pool feels easier than the last (so I try to increase the effort each time) and each gym session feels better too. My distance on the rowing machine has improved vastly (1100m in 5 mins 3 months ago, now easily in excess of 1400m, sometimes 1500m). I'm taking my bike out tomorrow to see how well I can do on a good cross-country ride (day off work, so it'll be spent exercising).
As I said before, I'm exercising more now than when I was losing 5lb a week, and eating less. So I am putting the effort in (even trying to have breakfast), but the absolute wall I seem to have hit with losing can be seriously disheartening.
GTO Scott said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
If you want any help losing the weight, start a thread, post your diet and training and we will give you some advice on weight loss. At your weight and size if all is going to plan you should be losing a lot each week.
This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
6' 6". 40-42" waist, but a 19.5" neck which means all my shirts make me look like I've already lost 10st and haven't bought new shirts.This doesn't have to be disheartening though, just a process whereby progress stalls and you need to re-asses your position and plan.
How tall are you?
I am getting fitter - each session at the swimming pool feels easier than the last (so I try to increase the effort each time) and each gym session feels better too. My distance on the rowing machine has improved vastly (1100m in 5 mins 3 months ago, now easily in excess of 1400m, sometimes 1500m). I'm taking my bike out tomorrow to see how well I can do on a good cross-country ride (day off work, so it'll be spent exercising).
As I said before, I'm exercising more now than when I was losing 5lb a week, and eating less. So I am putting the effort in (even trying to have breakfast), but the absolute wall I seem to have hit with losing can be seriously disheartening.
It's not necessarily about eating less but eating the right foods. By modifying my diet I've lost 1 3/4 stone in the past 8 weeks and I didn't start exactly huge. I was dieting after a heavy 'bulking' phase.
Post your diet or start a new thread on it and we will give you some advice on it! Diet is about 85% of the end result. It's one of those things that if you don't get right you'll never achieve your goal.
All the best
Lee
Ok, taking today as an example:
Breakfast: Shreddies with semi-skimmed milk.
Lunch: One wrap with ham salad filling, yoghurt and apple. (did used to eat more at lunch, but since having breakfast I find lunch only needs to be a light snack).
Dinner: Chicken breast, with Mediterranean roasted vegetables and rice. Have tried to cut the potatoes and pasta down in evening meals but still having them 3-4 times a week.
I admit this is my revised diet (started Monday) so we'll see how it goes.
Must say thanks to everyone though for the advice and support - it is very much appreciated
Breakfast: Shreddies with semi-skimmed milk.
Lunch: One wrap with ham salad filling, yoghurt and apple. (did used to eat more at lunch, but since having breakfast I find lunch only needs to be a light snack).
Dinner: Chicken breast, with Mediterranean roasted vegetables and rice. Have tried to cut the potatoes and pasta down in evening meals but still having them 3-4 times a week.
I admit this is my revised diet (started Monday) so we'll see how it goes.
Must say thanks to everyone though for the advice and support - it is very much appreciated
GTO Scott said:
Ok, taking today as an example:
Breakfast: Shreddies with semi-skimmed milk.
Lunch: One wrap with ham salad filling, yoghurt and apple. (did used to eat more at lunch, but since having breakfast I find lunch only needs to be a light snack).
Dinner: Chicken breast, with Mediterranean roasted vegetables and rice. Have tried to cut the potatoes and pasta down in evening meals but still having them 3-4 times a week.
I admit this is my revised diet (started Monday) so we'll see how it goes.
Must say thanks to everyone though for the advice and support - it is very much appreciated
How big were your portions? You can eat perfectly healthy food, but if your portions are too big, you're still not going to lose weight. You could either weigh the stuff, or amuse us by posting photos of everything you eat with a ruler alongside for scale! Breakfast: Shreddies with semi-skimmed milk.
Lunch: One wrap with ham salad filling, yoghurt and apple. (did used to eat more at lunch, but since having breakfast I find lunch only needs to be a light snack).
Dinner: Chicken breast, with Mediterranean roasted vegetables and rice. Have tried to cut the potatoes and pasta down in evening meals but still having them 3-4 times a week.
I admit this is my revised diet (started Monday) so we'll see how it goes.
Must say thanks to everyone though for the advice and support - it is very much appreciated
GTO Scott said:
As I (currently) appear to have a day off tomorrow, I'll measure, photo and post my food.
Portions aren't huge, certainly much less than they would have been before I started trying to get fit.
Quick question, may have missed it elsewhere, but do you drink?Portions aren't huge, certainly much less than they would have been before I started trying to get fit.
My best mate is 20st, and doesn't eat a great deal, but Fridays and Saturdays he necks half a dozen pints, then lazes around the house all weekend, doesn't help.
Ordinary_Chap said:
Whats your plan? And what are you trying to achieve in 2 months?
Lee
I'd dearly love my six pack to become visible! Lee
My diet this week has been pretty much exclusively
- Ready break with skimmed milk
- Apple
- Half a tuna sarnie (on nimble bread)
- Banana
- Other half of sarnie
- Evening meal
- Tuna steak asparagus/babycorn/carrots/leaf salad
- Chicken fajitas peppers/avocado/onion
- Salmon asparagus/babycorn/tomato & cucumber leaf salad
- Bangers and mash last night (oops)
- Paella tonight.
I'm confident I can stick to this.
dirty boy said:
GTO Scott said:
As I (currently) appear to have a day off tomorrow, I'll measure, photo and post my food.
Portions aren't huge, certainly much less than they would have been before I started trying to get fit.
Quick question, may have missed it elsewhere, but do you drink?Portions aren't huge, certainly much less than they would have been before I started trying to get fit.
My best mate is 20st, and doesn't eat a great deal, but Fridays and Saturdays he necks half a dozen pints, then lazes around the house all weekend, doesn't help.
Ordinary_Chap said:
Whats your plan? And what are you trying to achieve in 2 months?
Lee
I'd dearly love my six pack to become visible! Lee
My diet this week has been pretty much exclusively
- Ready break with skimmed milk
- Apple
- Half a tuna sarnie (on nimble bread)
- Banana
- Other half of sarnie
- Evening meal
- Tuna steak asparagus/babycorn/carrots/leaf salad
- Chicken fajitas peppers/avocado/onion
- Salmon asparagus/babycorn/tomato & cucumber leaf salad
- Bangers and mash last night (oops)
- Paella tonight.
I'm confident I can stick to this.
It's amazing the changes you can make in 2 months with the right attitude towards training and diet.
I'd caution you though, a lot of personal trainers in my view know very little. I learn't the most from hanging out with bodybuilders (previous to that I'd listened to 4 personal trainers). I'm not saying they are all bad, actually some are really good. Just about 80% of them are useless giving out rotten generic advice to everyone!
Ordinary_Chap said:
Well depending where you are today it may be possible!
It's amazing the changes you can make in 2 months with the right attitude towards training and diet.
I'd caution you though, a lot of personal trainers in my view know very little. I learn't the most from hanging out with bodybuilders (previous to that I'd listened to 4 personal trainers). I'm not saying they are all bad, actually some are really good. Just about 80% of them are useless giving out rotten generic advice to everyone!
That's fair enough, but this guy has pretty much the physique I'd like, so I kind of think, if he shows me what he does, and I eat what he does less a bit, I can't go far wrong (albeit my DNA might have something to say about it)It's amazing the changes you can make in 2 months with the right attitude towards training and diet.
I'd caution you though, a lot of personal trainers in my view know very little. I learn't the most from hanging out with bodybuilders (previous to that I'd listened to 4 personal trainers). I'm not saying they are all bad, actually some are really good. Just about 80% of them are useless giving out rotten generic advice to everyone!
Will give it a try. Can't hurt. And in any case, I don't ever really see any approachable body builders at my gym.
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