Single worst exercise?
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doodles19 said:
There is a special place in hell reserved for muscle-ups.
Can you do them? I have yet to had the opportunity to try them safely. Any tips? I understand it's not just the arms but you can use momentum to flip the body upwards. In theory, in climbing terms, it's a double dyno followed by a mantle shelf so not impossible.Double dyno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV7p9YfzAR0
Edited by RemainAllHoof on Sunday 24th April 15:24
RemainAllHoof said:
Halb said:
I don't think so with good form and low weight. Practise power snatches a bit, cas after the burpee part it is a real dredge to haul that weight up!
Just that I tried a clean with about 40kg (yes, I know, laughably small compared to what you lot are doing; sized for doing rows without putting my back out) but I didn't feel I had things quite under control (I was at home so didn't have the option of just dumping it on the ground).It doesn't matter about the weight so long as it's tough for you...and also go light because it's unlikely your shoulders are up to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op5hi2vuQKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nc4DpIzns8&fea...
Halb said:
Wow. Too much to go wrong for me. 
The second video is depressing - girls doing it with huge weights. /o\
RemainAllHoof said:
Can you do them? I have yet to had the opportunity to try them safely. Any tips? I understand it's not just the arms but you can use momentum to flip the body upwards. In theory, in climbing terms, it's a double dyno followed by a mantle shelf so not impossible.
Double dyno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV7p9YfzAR0
I wish, one of my friends can, I'll see of he has any tips.Double dyno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV7p9YfzAR0
Edited by RemainAllHoof on Sunday 24th April 15:24
mcelliott said:
Anything benind the neck.
Press Behind Neck - should be banned! Unnecessary and dangerous in equal measure.
Lying triceps curls (aka 'skull crushers') wrecked my elbows; 20 years on they crack like tinder even if I try a light set as a try out, then hurt for days. At one point I could barely carry a plastic bag for long without having to constantly swap hands. I was naturally good at them and they blew my triceps up quicker than anything so I went too heavy too fast and didn't stop when the warning signals started. Mug.
Re: good morning, in my 7 years of working in fitness I have only observed two people doing them, had a chat with both, tried to find out what muscle groups they wanted to hit, offered alternatives etc, both declined........few weeks later, one had a slipped disc and the other chronic back pain. Could be coincidence but I wouldnt want to find out??
RemainAllHoof said:
If you are doing rows, isn't it going to create a similar injury?
bent over rows 'can' affect the lower back, especially if your technique/posture is not 100% as it puts tremendous forces onto your lower back, due to the angle of work involved. Good mornings are in another league tho okgo said:
I want to try a muscle up but haven't found anywhere that would be suitable really!
I've not had a chance to check out Fairfields; the closest pull up bars I know of that would enable you to do it are in Wandsworth Common (they have an exercise trail there with pull up bars, monkey bars, sit up beams, parallel bars etc).swansea v6 said:
bent over rows 'can' affect the lower back, especially if your technique/posture is not 100% as it puts tremendous forces onto your lower back, due to the angle of work involved. Good mornings are in another league tho
Oh, right. Any tips for doing bent over rows safely?At one of the gyms I work at we use an incline bench, set it for a suitable angle around 45 degrees. Then straddle it (i.e. the bench is between your legs and you are looking down on it), chest supported by the bench. Base of the bench also inclined up and stops you sliding down it to far. Not a good description so will try and link a pic to it???
This enables us to pick a barbell up of the floor (spotters if going heavy) and do the bent over row, the bench gives you enough support to take the work off your lower back but you can still perform the row. Plus stops you arching the back when you near fatigue.
If you are doing 'standard' bent over rows with a barbell, make sure you have good lower back/core strength, definitely make sure abs are 'activated' before you start and use a light weight, so you feel the muscular contractions, making sure the negative aspect of the move is controlled and SLOW..
This enables us to pick a barbell up of the floor (spotters if going heavy) and do the bent over row, the bench gives you enough support to take the work off your lower back but you can still perform the row. Plus stops you arching the back when you near fatigue.
If you are doing 'standard' bent over rows with a barbell, make sure you have good lower back/core strength, definitely make sure abs are 'activated' before you start and use a light weight, so you feel the muscular contractions, making sure the negative aspect of the move is controlled and SLOW..
Edited by swansea v6 on Tuesday 26th April 17:18
I teach people to activate their abs with nearly every exercise even on machines,(a good test of ab/core strength is, when performing a shoulder press on a machine, get your spine aligned on the machine and while performing the press lift your feet about 5-6 inches off the floor and keep them still, maintain PERFECT posture and form)
Activating the abs, even when leaning forward helps to maintain posture and helps to work the core.
Activating the abs, even when leaning forward helps to maintain posture and helps to work the core.
RemainAllHoof said:
Ah, ok. Tesco training - every little helps, eh?
Indeed.Got somewhere to hang these?..This is where muscle ups come from,and it's what the guys in the park are trying to copy..bit harder to do it properly on some rings..
http://www.amazon.com/Olympic-Gymnastic-Rings-Cros...
tutorial
http://youtu.be/w5uahNcZzGY
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